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#1 OFFLINE   kevinturcotte

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 02:55 PM

What's the best way to waterproof coaxial connections outside?

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#2 OFFLINE   curt8403

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 03:21 PM

What's the best way to waterproof coaxial connections outside?


dielectric grease
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#3 OFFLINE   Mertzen

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:00 PM

Drip loops, wrench tightened connectors.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:02 PM

My installer recommended silicone caulking. That's what he used at the cable entrances.

So far, no problems.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:10 PM

My installer recommended silicone caulking. That's what he used at the cable entrances.

So far, no problems.


That's correct for sealing holes in the wall, but not for sealing the coax connectors themselves.

Silicone Dielectric Grease is what you want to use. It is non-drying. You squirt a small drop, about half the size of a pea, into the connector before screwing it on.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:11 PM

Where would I get that? Hardware store?

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:16 PM

Where would I get that? Hardware store?


Most likely not at the major ones. Look for BOSS 440 dielectric compound.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:20 PM

solid signal has it

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:28 PM

solid signal has it


autozone also has it, as they use it on light bulbs in cars/
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:45 PM

Marine supplies like West Marine and Boaters world have it. Boats get lots of corrosion!

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 05:15 PM

Marine supplies like West Marine and Boaters world have it. Boats get lots of corrosion!


Had to redo every wire nut, bulb, and solderless terminal on my boat. Used good old cable grease.....no problems again..........Should not be relied upon as the only source of birth control or STD protection.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 09:42 PM

What's the best way to waterproof coaxial connections outside?


I've been using GE II Silicone caulk for over 30 years on my home TV and ham radio connectors, and professional installations at radio/TV broadcast stations and satellite teleports for over 30 years and never had one problem. Some may note that GE II hasn't been around that long... true, and GE II is better than the original.

Your connections will withstand rain, snow, ice, wind, and remain flexible and sound in extreme heat and cold. The drawback is once you've sealed up a connector it's very difficult (but not impossible) to undo. This is really for truly permanent installations. Make sure your connections are tight and dry before sealing them up. But the stuff is great, and provides mechanical strength as well.

You've got to use GE II Silicone caulk, not one of the other brands. Clear is best.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:30 PM

I've been using GE II Silicone caulk for over 30 years on my home TV and ham radio connectors, and professional installations at radio/TV broadcast stations and satellite teleports for over 30 years and never had one problem. Some may note that GE II hasn't been around that long... true, and GE II is better than the original.

Your connections will withstand rain, snow, ice, wind, and remain flexible and sound in extreme heat and cold. The drawback is once you've sealed up a connector it's very difficult (but not impossible) to undo. This is really for truly permanent installations. Make sure your connections are tight and dry before sealing them up. But the stuff is great, and provides mechanical strength as well.

You've got to use GE II Silicone caulk, not one of the other brands. Clear is best.


Scott,

I'm going to get me a tube of that stuff for just-in-case. When I run into sealed fittings (probably GE II) I just cut all the wire and fittings and start over. Sometimes you have to disconnect AND reconnect stuff. Cable grease (dielectric lubricant) works fine for this.

But sometimes you have to seal an underground cut cable. The correct procedure is to dig it all up. The ok fix is to cut fittings on the damaged ends and barrel them together--then make a puddle of caulk in a plastic bag and jamb the repair into the caulk. GE II will be it fer me.

Joe

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 06:26 AM

It's true, opening up a connector sealed this way is very difficult. I've had some luck "splitting" the seal with a razor blade and pealing away the caulk. That works OK for unscrewing an F connector (or an N or UHF connector) but it does leave a mess of cured caulk clinging to everything.

I did use GE II for an underground cable repair. A radio station had a coax line running underground from a satellite dish and the local utility company found it with their backhoe. I spliced in a new section and covered the barreled splices with GE II. After they cured I re-buried it. That was back in 1990 or so and it still works.

I've not had the same results with DAP. Stick with GE II.

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:02 PM

For most applications, using a "permanent" solution like GE II isn't warranted or advisable. Technology moves too fast, and things need serviced. Silicone grease will offer the same protection but will allow servicing.

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Posted 10 December 2008 - 04:07 AM

I've used a dialectric grease for the inside of the connectors and Coax-Seal for the outside of the connectors. It looks like electrical tape but thicker and soft, and seals around the outside really well.

My dish is on the heavy rain side of my house, and I've not had any problems so far (5+ years).




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