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#1 OFFLINE   Shawnn

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 10:43 AM

I have customer that wants satellite internet at his cabin. I have looked at direct way with a download speed (Up To) 2.0 Mbps, Upload speed (Up To) 128 Kbps. and it’s not fast enough for him. I was wondering if there are any other options or providers with higher speed.

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#2 OFFLINE   tcusta00

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 11:07 AM

I believe Hughesnet (formerly DirecWay) is the only satellite internet provider around. Even if you could find another, I doubt you'll be able to find one with very high bandwidth.

Your other option if traditional terrestrial options aren't available in his area is a wireless carrier's internet, but there again you won't find the bandwidth to be higher than 2mbps down.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 11:27 AM

Thanks for the information, just wanted to make sure I was not missing another provider. How do you find the speed of your Satellite internet?

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 12:02 PM

You mean once you have satellite internet? You could go to a bandwidth testing website like www.speedtest.net.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 12:08 PM

FYI, the latency with satellite internet access can cause issues. VPN will react slower than dial-up and voip probably won't work
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Posted 16 December 2008 - 01:47 PM

Wildblue offers up to 1.5Mbps down. Not sure if they serve Canada or not.
HughesNet offers up to 5.0Mbps down. I think they also serve Canada. However that 5 down will set you back $349.99 (not a typo) PER MONTH.
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Posted 16 December 2008 - 02:41 PM

Satellite Internet is neither fast nor cheap, and it's a high-latency connection, so most VPN doesn't work, and neither does on-line gaming, VOIP, or anything else that's time-sensitive.

It's faster than dial-up, but that's about the only advantage. It is for folks who don't have any other options, but it'll never compete with wired (or WiFi) connections.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 07:00 PM

Thanks for the information, just wanted to make sure I was not missing another provider. How do you find the speed of your Satellite internet?


No, how do you find the speed as in using it. Is it fast for basic browsing and Email.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 10:33 PM

I looked in to satellite internet for my home but, for the speed and the 60 bucks a month, I decided to go with verizion cellular broadband. Of course, I only use my laptop and have not looked into running a home network with it. If it could be done my guess is that cut my speed down alot.
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:27 AM

No, how do you find the speed as in using it. Is it fast for basic browsing and Email.


Sorry, I don't use it.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 10:29 AM

Satellite internet user weighing in here.

I have Wildblue, since I live in "the sticks" in New Hampshire, and satellite and modem are the only options here unless I want to spend the $$$ for a T1.

The key thing is that the metric here is "better than dialup". I find my satellite connection is decent for email and basic browsing, although the latency issue is sometimes an issue.

Things that don't work:
(a) VPNs and VOIP are painfully slow due to the latency
(B) Online gaming is mostly not doable
© Uplink bandwidth is low, making uploading a pain.
(d) Bandwidth limits (aka Fair Access Policy) make it difficult to do a lot of high-bandwidth stuff. I'm usually pretty close to triggering the bandwidth limits on my wildblue account, and I'm not exactly a heavy web user. I'll download basic software upgrades, the occasional PS3 update, and some light music downloading, and that's about it.

It *is* waaaaaaay better than dialup (I do usually get 1 mbps downlink, about the same uplink rate as my modem, but with the latency issues). I'm not a fan, but unless Comcast or Fairpoint are willing to pull the sticks out of their %%$#$s, it's what I'm stuck with.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:05 PM

Satellite internet user weighing in here.

I have Wildblue, since I live in "the sticks" in New Hampshire, and satellite and modem are the only options here unless I want to spend the $$$ for a T1.

The key thing is that the metric here is "better than dialup". I find my satellite connection is decent for email and basic browsing, although the latency issue is sometimes an issue.

Things that don't work:
(a) VPNs and VOIP are painfully slow due to the latency
(B) Online gaming is mostly not doable
© Uplink bandwidth is low, making uploading a pain.
(d) Bandwidth limits (aka Fair Access Policy) make it difficult to do a lot of high-bandwidth stuff. I'm usually pretty close to triggering the bandwidth limits on my wildblue account, and I'm not exactly a heavy web user. I'll download basic software upgrades, the occasional PS3 update, and some light music downloading, and that's about it.

It *is* waaaaaaay better than dialup (I do usually get 1 mbps downlink, about the same uplink rate as my modem, but with the latency issues). I'm not a fan, but unless Comcast or Fairpoint are willing to pull the sticks out of their %%$#$s, it's what I'm stuck with.


Thanks for the info

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 04:40 AM

I'd like to resurrect this thread from the dead as I am now considering Hughesnet or some satellite ISP. My only other option is mobile broadband from AT&T--I can see their tower from my house, but they don't have 3G in this area and it may be a long time until they get it on all their towers around here.

Given that my options are the older-technology AT&T broadband (with a 5 gig/month cap) or Hughesnet, what do you guys think? I'm only concerned with general web surfing and email, not downloading music or game play, although we may stay connected for a few hours per day.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 04:57 AM

Satellite internet user weighing in here...


I have HughesNet, and I'll second everything added here, with some additions:

1. Bandwidth limitations are a pain to track, especially when your kid comes home from college expecting she can YouTube all day.

2. The speeds advertised are generally correct for the period between 2 and 7am on HughesNet (which is also the FAP-free period). Hughes has loaded almost every transponder to the limit and your speed degrades with each account using it. I have a plan that tops out at approx. 192MB, but goes to about 20Mb during peak hours, such as 8pm - extremely annoying.

The next best alternative is using G3 WiFi via your wireless, if coverage is available. I'm really in the sticks (no cell, no cable, no FiOS, and poor phone lines) so I'm stuck. Others might have alternatives.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 05:06 AM

I have HughesNet, and I'll second everything added here, with some additions:

1. Bandwidth limitations are a pain to track, especially when your kid comes home from college expecting she can YouTube all day.

2. The speeds advertised are generally correct for the period between 2 and 7am on HughesNet (which is also the FAP-free period). Hughes has loaded almost every transponder to the limit and your speed degrades with each account using it. I have a plan that tops out at approx. 192MB, but goes to about 20Mb during peak hours, such as 8pm - extremely annoying.

The next best alternative is using G3 WiFi via your wireless, if coverage is available. I'm really in the sticks (no cell, no cable, no FiOS, and poor phone lines) so I'm stuck. Others might have alternatives.


Thanks for the info. 20Mb would not annoy me when compared with 28.8kb that I get on dial-up.

As I said, AT&T 3G is not available here yet, it is "Edge" I think--does anyone know what kind of speed you get from that?

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 06:10 AM

Look at Starband. They got a bad rap for a while, but they've been stable for me. They're in the process of moving most subscribers to a new satellite to address traffic and speed concerns. BW cap is a rolling 7 day window of 1Gb, so if you go over, you can clear it without waiting a whole month. BW is not metered between 12M and 6AM is you have any big files to download or programs to update.

Prices aren't great, but not as bad as some.

Plus, if it won't get me slapped around too much on this board, I could use the referral bonus.

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Posted 05 August 2009 - 06:13 AM

I would also look into Wildblue. I recently got certified and from what I can see they do run a tight ship technically.
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Posted 05 August 2009 - 06:20 AM

I have HughesNet, and I'll second everything added here, with some additions:

1. Bandwidth limitations are a pain to track, especially when your kid comes home from college expecting she can YouTube all day.

2. The speeds advertised are generally correct for the period between 2 and 7am on HughesNet (which is also the FAP-free period). Hughes has loaded almost every transponder to the limit and your speed degrades with each account using it. I have a plan that tops out at approx. 192MB, but goes to about 20Mb during peak hours, such as 8pm - extremely annoying.

The next best alternative is using G3 WiFi via your wireless, if coverage is available. I'm really in the sticks (no cell, no cable, no FiOS, and poor phone lines) so I'm stuck. Others might have alternatives.


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As long as you just do email and basic surfing there should be sufficient BW and speed to keep you happy. With two teenagers on our home network who insist on downloading videos, photos and music, I am in a constant battle to avoid the FAP and ultra slow download rates. They do manage to go over about once a week which results in a 24 painfully slow penalty from Hughesnet.

But it is better than dial-up which is our only other option.
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Posted 05 August 2009 - 06:52 AM

I recently got introduced to Skycasters. Primarily targeted to commercial applications, but they do have VoIP, VPN and Fax applications working with their service.

Expensive, but if it is your only option....


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Posted 05 August 2009 - 07:01 AM

I would also look into Wildblue. I recently got certified and from what I can see they do run a tight ship technically.


Technically the Wildblue guys seemed good, but boy, they had a lot of hardware problems in the years I had them. Several TRIA replacements, and coming to accept that the TRIAS doen't really work well in cold weather or in the rain (I'm not talking rain fade, the TRIA getting wet would cause problems, so I ended up building a little roof extension over my dish)

A few weeks ago I finally (for several $K) managed to get Comcast to pull cable to my property, and ditching Wildblue was a happy, happy moment.




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