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#151 OFFLINE   Rob052067

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 04:36 PM

I just got my January bill. It's dated 01/01/09, with service from 01/16/09 to 02/15/09 (billed a current rates). There's a message on the bill about the price increase:

Here's the DISH...Please note, effective February 1, 2009, DISH Network will change pricing on select programming packages and services. You will receive detailed information about these changes in your February statement. We are proud to continue to offer you great TV entertainment, the best technology, the most programming & the lowest everyday prices nationwide.


Oddly, my parents bill was just generated on 01/13/09, with service from 01/28/09 to 02/27/09 (billed a current rates). However, there's no message on their statement about the pending price increases.

It seems that the billing date on your account will affect when your prices go up.

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#152 OFFLINE   peak_reception

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 02:20 PM

Just received the ATT/DISH bill and it details all kinds of price increases for various packages, including many international ones, but nothing about DishHD Absolute which is the one we have. I'm hoping that means no increase even if no new channels. Next month's bill will tell the whole story i suppose....

#153 OFFLINE   Michael P

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:05 PM

Do they notify those of us with paperless billing about the price increase?
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 09:13 PM

I just had my E* installed a week or so ago and got my bill the other day. Other than the bill being totally screwed up (I was not surprised), there was no mention of price increases and the billing showed the current prices still in effect for Jan and Feb.

The screw up was in billing me fees that were not mentioned, not giving a monthly credit as our agreement called for, and for billing me for no phone connection when the requirement had been waived. The CSR said they would credit all the above in the next billing. We'll see.

Hopefully E* will get the erroneous billing squared away by the Feb billing, which will probably be just in time for the price increase to take effect.

#155 OFFLINE   frankv

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 04:49 PM

What kind of additional fees were they trying to charge you?

#156 OFFLINE   speedlever

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 05:00 PM

A $50 upgrade charge. Upgrade from what?
A $5/month programming access fee (no phone connection) - supposed to be waived.

They left off a monthly credit we negotiated to be competitive with D*'s promotion and to get my business.
They forgot to bill me a penny for Cinemax .. and forgot to turn it on too.

About par for the course, I reckon. ;)

But it's all supposed to be fixed... sometime.

I'm happy with the service (DDA 250) thus far.

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 03:44 PM

Do they notify those of us with paperless billing about the price increase?

Not yet. I just checked my January 14 dated bill and there was nothing about it in that bill. One weird thing, though, the tax went from $0.30 (6% of $5) to $0.58 for some mysterious reason.

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 06:45 PM

Not yet. I just checked my January 14 dated bill and there was nothing about it in that bill. One weird thing, though, the tax went from $0.30 (6% of $5) to $0.58 for some mysterious reason.

Taxes? On my bill, I don't have any taxes. Should I be happy?

#159 OFFLINE   Brandon428

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 06:46 PM

Whats the advantage of DDA?

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:18 PM

Whats the advantage of DDA?

Starting in February 98 cents per DVR. Until then there is a larger discount. (I'm expecting a price freeze until 2011 on DDA as well.)

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:54 PM

So how much would it cost a month for 2 722s,please bare with my stupidity its just that I find Dish's fees complicating.

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 11:19 PM

So how much would it cost a month for 2 722s,please bare with my stupidity its just that I find Dish's fees complicating.

At what programming level?
DishDVR Advantage Classic Bronze 100 is $44.99 plus $10 Bronze HD plus $12 2nd DVR $66.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic Silver 200 is $57.99 plus $10 Silver HD plus $12 2nd DVR $79.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic Gold 250 is $67.99 plus $10 Gold HD plus $12 2nd DVR $89.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic America's "Everything" Pak $102.98 plus $10 Gold HD plus $12 2nd DVR $124.98 (plus taxes)

Most DISH customers would be at the Silver 200 level.
Add $10 if you want Platinum HD - subtract $5 if you don't want any HD.
Prices as of February 1st (or first bill produced after February 1st).

(If you don't want ANY of the SD channels you can sign up for a "TurboHD" package with less channels (all the HD channels at each level) at a discount. The pricing above is based on SD packages plus HD, not HD only. There will also be one time charges for the second DVR ... the prices above reflect monthly charges only.)

Edited by James Long, 18 January 2009 - 01:32 AM.
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#163 OFFLINE   Brandon428

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 12:27 AM

I think I'm gonna go with the DDA Classic Gold 250 with Gold HD. Thanks for the help James.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 08:12 AM

At what programming level?
DishDVR Advantage Classic Bronze 100 is $44.99 plus $10 Bronze HD plus $12 2nd DVR $66.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic Silver 200 is $57.99 plus $10 Silver HD plus $12 2nd DVR $79.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic Gold 250 is $67.99 plus $10 Gold HD plus $12 2nd DVR $89.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic America's "Everything" Pak $102.98 plus $10 Gold HD plus $12 2nd DVR $124.98 (plus taxes)

Most DISH customers would be at the Silver 200 level.
Add $10 if you want Platinum HD - subtract $5 if you don't want any HD.
Prices as of February 1st (or first bill produced after February 1st).

(If you don't want ANY of the SD channels you can sign up for a "TurboHD" package with less channels (all the HD channels at each level) at a discount. The pricing above is based on SD packages plus HD, not HD only. There will also be one time charges for the second DVR ... the prices above reflect monthly charges only.)


Unless their was a change that I am not aware of, their is no DVR fee for the "Americas Everything" pack, therefore the DDA Classic AEP should be $102.99 + $7 for the extra 722 receiver for a total of $109.99.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 02:03 PM

What is the HD enabling fee of $7 (HDTV with no HD programming selected)? I was playing with Dishbuilder to get an idea of what it would cost me if I changed out one of my two SD TVs for an HDTV. The price bumped up $7 with no change of SD programming. (two tvs with DVR, 1-sd and 1-hd). Only $3 more to move to Gold. What do you get for that $7 fee?

If I change the above config to 2 HDTVs, the price jumps 12.98 (5.98 - dvr service fee and 7.00 leased receiver fee).

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 03:51 PM

Unless their was a change that I am not aware of, their is no DVR fee for the "Americas Everything" pack, therefore the DDA Classic AEP should be $102.99 + $7 for the extra 722 receiver for a total of $109.99.

I believe the policy changed from all DVRs included to just the first one about two years ago.

What is the HD enabling fee of $7 (HDTV with no HD programming selected)?

DISH has a "penalty" for taking their HDTV equipment and not buying a HDTV package. The penalty will be going down to $5 in February and the current DISHBuilder does not charge the penalty in Eastern Arc areas where DISH is requiring ViP equipment for all.

Basically if you force DISH to provide you with HD equipment without subscribing to a HD package they will charge you a little extra. If they force you to accept HD equipment then they won't charge you extra.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 06:20 PM

I believe the policy changed from all DVRs included to just the first one about two years ago.

DISH has a "penalty" for taking their HDTV equipment and not buying a HDTV package. The penalty will be going down to $5 in February and the current DISHBuilder does not charge the penalty in Eastern Arc areas where DISH is requiring ViP equipment for all.

Basically if you force DISH to provide you with HD equipment without subscribing to a HD package they will charge you a little extra. If they force you to accept HD equipment then they won't charge you extra.


That's interesting. I built the above scenario with my zip code (in the Eastern Arc) and the penalty showed up when an HDTV was selected. Select SD sets and the penalty goes away. It will be interesting to see what my March bill is (new customer as of the last 2 weeks). It appears that the penalty is incurred only if Dish knows you have an HDTV with no HD service. ???

#168 OFFLINE   Chris Freeland

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:02 PM

I believe the policy changed from all DVRs included to just the first one about two years ago.


That is true about the normal DVR Advantage pack, however I still believe that their is still no charge for any DVR on your account if you sub to the "Americas Everything Pack".

#169 OFFLINE   Chris Freeland

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:09 PM

Unless their was a change that I am not aware of, their is no DVR fee for the "Americas Everything" pack, therefore the DDA Classic AEP should be $102.99 + $7 for the extra 722 receiver for a total of $109.99.


Oops I forgot to add the "HD Gold", the Classic AEP with 2 x 722 receivers and Gold HD should be $119.99 on Feb 1.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:23 PM

Oops I forgot to add the "HD Gold", the Classic AEP with 2 x 722 receivers and Gold HD should be $119.99 on Feb 1.

Only if there is no DVR fee on the second DVR.

I'm pretty sure that the 2nd DVR is fee-able. At least if I'm wrong one will save money in reality and not be charged extra. :)

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 10:59 PM

The relevant parts from my current bill, receivers are 622, 622, 501:

Jan 20 - Feb 19 DISH Network DVR Service Fee 0.00
Digital Home Advantage America's Everything Pak with
Locals 99.98

The time-frame you are thinking of roughly coincides with DDA.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:17 AM

Maybe the new FCC commissioner will finally mandate a la carte and the rest of us can stop subsidizing ESPN viewers.



I thought everyone was an ESPN viewer.... :D

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:47 AM

Maybe the new FCC commissioner will finally mandate a la carte and the rest of us can stop subsidizing ESPN viewers.


I guess we can still dream.:eek2:

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 02:21 PM

The relevant parts from my current bill, receivers are 622, 622, 501:

Jan 20 - Feb 19 DISH Network DVR Service Fee 0.00
Digital Home Advantage America's Everything Pak with
Locals 99.98

The time-frame you are thinking of roughly coincides with DDA.


I rest my case :)

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:56 PM

Always glad to be wrong when it means someone is saving money. :D




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