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#161 OFFLINE   Brandon428

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:54 PM

So how much would it cost a month for 2 722s,please bare with my stupidity its just that I find Dish's fees complicating.

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#162 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 11:19 PM

So how much would it cost a month for 2 722s,please bare with my stupidity its just that I find Dish's fees complicating.

At what programming level?
DishDVR Advantage Classic Bronze 100 is $44.99 plus $10 Bronze HD plus $12 2nd DVR $66.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic Silver 200 is $57.99 plus $10 Silver HD plus $12 2nd DVR $79.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic Gold 250 is $67.99 plus $10 Gold HD plus $12 2nd DVR $89.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic America's "Everything" Pak $102.98 plus $10 Gold HD plus $12 2nd DVR $124.98 (plus taxes)

Most DISH customers would be at the Silver 200 level.
Add $10 if you want Platinum HD - subtract $5 if you don't want any HD.
Prices as of February 1st (or first bill produced after February 1st).

(If you don't want ANY of the SD channels you can sign up for a "TurboHD" package with less channels (all the HD channels at each level) at a discount. The pricing above is based on SD packages plus HD, not HD only. There will also be one time charges for the second DVR ... the prices above reflect monthly charges only.)

Edited by James Long, 18 January 2009 - 01:32 AM.
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#163 OFFLINE   Brandon428

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 12:27 AM

I think I'm gonna go with the DDA Classic Gold 250 with Gold HD. Thanks for the help James.

#164 OFFLINE   Chris Freeland

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 08:12 AM

At what programming level?
DishDVR Advantage Classic Bronze 100 is $44.99 plus $10 Bronze HD plus $12 2nd DVR $66.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic Silver 200 is $57.99 plus $10 Silver HD plus $12 2nd DVR $79.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic Gold 250 is $67.99 plus $10 Gold HD plus $12 2nd DVR $89.99 (plus taxes)
DishDVR Advantage Classic America's "Everything" Pak $102.98 plus $10 Gold HD plus $12 2nd DVR $124.98 (plus taxes)

Most DISH customers would be at the Silver 200 level.
Add $10 if you want Platinum HD - subtract $5 if you don't want any HD.
Prices as of February 1st (or first bill produced after February 1st).

(If you don't want ANY of the SD channels you can sign up for a "TurboHD" package with less channels (all the HD channels at each level) at a discount. The pricing above is based on SD packages plus HD, not HD only. There will also be one time charges for the second DVR ... the prices above reflect monthly charges only.)


Unless their was a change that I am not aware of, their is no DVR fee for the "Americas Everything" pack, therefore the DDA Classic AEP should be $102.99 + $7 for the extra 722 receiver for a total of $109.99.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 02:03 PM

What is the HD enabling fee of $7 (HDTV with no HD programming selected)? I was playing with Dishbuilder to get an idea of what it would cost me if I changed out one of my two SD TVs for an HDTV. The price bumped up $7 with no change of SD programming. (two tvs with DVR, 1-sd and 1-hd). Only $3 more to move to Gold. What do you get for that $7 fee?

If I change the above config to 2 HDTVs, the price jumps 12.98 (5.98 - dvr service fee and 7.00 leased receiver fee).

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 03:51 PM

Unless their was a change that I am not aware of, their is no DVR fee for the "Americas Everything" pack, therefore the DDA Classic AEP should be $102.99 + $7 for the extra 722 receiver for a total of $109.99.

I believe the policy changed from all DVRs included to just the first one about two years ago.

What is the HD enabling fee of $7 (HDTV with no HD programming selected)?

DISH has a "penalty" for taking their HDTV equipment and not buying a HDTV package. The penalty will be going down to $5 in February and the current DISHBuilder does not charge the penalty in Eastern Arc areas where DISH is requiring ViP equipment for all.

Basically if you force DISH to provide you with HD equipment without subscribing to a HD package they will charge you a little extra. If they force you to accept HD equipment then they won't charge you extra.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 06:20 PM

I believe the policy changed from all DVRs included to just the first one about two years ago.

DISH has a "penalty" for taking their HDTV equipment and not buying a HDTV package. The penalty will be going down to $5 in February and the current DISHBuilder does not charge the penalty in Eastern Arc areas where DISH is requiring ViP equipment for all.

Basically if you force DISH to provide you with HD equipment without subscribing to a HD package they will charge you a little extra. If they force you to accept HD equipment then they won't charge you extra.


That's interesting. I built the above scenario with my zip code (in the Eastern Arc) and the penalty showed up when an HDTV was selected. Select SD sets and the penalty goes away. It will be interesting to see what my March bill is (new customer as of the last 2 weeks). It appears that the penalty is incurred only if Dish knows you have an HDTV with no HD service. ???

#168 OFFLINE   Chris Freeland

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:02 PM

I believe the policy changed from all DVRs included to just the first one about two years ago.


That is true about the normal DVR Advantage pack, however I still believe that their is still no charge for any DVR on your account if you sub to the "Americas Everything Pack".

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:09 PM

Unless their was a change that I am not aware of, their is no DVR fee for the "Americas Everything" pack, therefore the DDA Classic AEP should be $102.99 + $7 for the extra 722 receiver for a total of $109.99.


Oops I forgot to add the "HD Gold", the Classic AEP with 2 x 722 receivers and Gold HD should be $119.99 on Feb 1.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:23 PM

Oops I forgot to add the "HD Gold", the Classic AEP with 2 x 722 receivers and Gold HD should be $119.99 on Feb 1.

Only if there is no DVR fee on the second DVR.

I'm pretty sure that the 2nd DVR is fee-able. At least if I'm wrong one will save money in reality and not be charged extra. :)

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 10:59 PM

The relevant parts from my current bill, receivers are 622, 622, 501:

Jan 20 - Feb 19 DISH Network DVR Service Fee 0.00
Digital Home Advantage America's Everything Pak with
Locals 99.98

The time-frame you are thinking of roughly coincides with DDA.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:17 AM

Maybe the new FCC commissioner will finally mandate a la carte and the rest of us can stop subsidizing ESPN viewers.



I thought everyone was an ESPN viewer.... :D

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:47 AM

Maybe the new FCC commissioner will finally mandate a la carte and the rest of us can stop subsidizing ESPN viewers.


I guess we can still dream.:eek2:

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 02:21 PM

The relevant parts from my current bill, receivers are 622, 622, 501:

Jan 20 - Feb 19 DISH Network DVR Service Fee 0.00
Digital Home Advantage America's Everything Pak with
Locals 99.98

The time-frame you are thinking of roughly coincides with DDA.


I rest my case :)

#175 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:56 PM

Always glad to be wrong when it means someone is saving money. :D

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 10:14 AM

Basically if you force DISH to provide you with HD equipment without subscribing to a HD package they will charge you a little extra. If they force you to accept HD equipment then they won't charge you extra.


I have a 6000, which is obsolete, and Dish is "forcing" me to replace it with an updated HD receiver - but as I do not currently subscribe to any HD programming, I would get the fee. Could I have requested an SD receiver to replace my 6000, thus bypassing this fee?

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:21 AM

Maybe Dish decided not to update the 6000 to work with the new smart card, I don't know why else they would care if you kept it on SD.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:00 PM

The relevant parts from my current bill, receivers are 622, 622, 501:

Jan 20 - Feb 19 DISH Network DVR Service Fee 0.00
Digital Home Advantage America's Everything Pak with
Locals 99.98

The time-frame you are thinking of roughly coincides with DDA.


I wonder if they realize that they may be losing money...

If they give DVR service with all AEP subs, including multiple DVR users, since they are no longer charging for the $7 lease fee and $5.98 DVR fee but a flat $12 DVR fee, you may just save an additional $7...
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:31 PM

AEP has no effect on lease or additional receiver fees.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:35 AM

AEP has no effect on lease or additional receiver fees.


But they are combining the $7 add'l receiver fee with the $5.98 DVR fee and making it a $12 DVR fee...
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