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#51 OFFLINE   David Bott

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:51 PM

I did click the + to close the topics but wish to 'em go away.

When I click on the forums tab at the top there are 3 Dish Network headers, I want to get rid of them by hiding or move them to the bottom of the stack since I am a DirecTV guy and have no interest in Dish Network stuff.


I am sorry, but this is currently how it it works. I do not see a change coming for this one any time soon as it does not seem to be a mod that is currently out their for this version. We will keep looking.

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#52 OFFLINE   David Bott

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:53 PM

The biggest thing I am having an issue with is the link colors.

The orange and blue/bold and non-bold get confusing looking in the forums to tell new from old since the orange is the clicked/unclicked which should be less important but is mostly all you see. It would be much better if the more standard web design idea was used of clicked/unclicked colors being much closer together (like different shades of blue or something).

Sorry if this is confusing, I hope you understand what I mean. The rest of the forum layout is pretty good besides the links IMO.

EDIT: Here is an example, it just looks confusing while browsing around the forum:
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Hi...This is done to CLEARLY have the threads with new content stand out. If they were just dimmed out with the same color, some monitors can have issues with it as they can not show the shade difference very well.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:57 PM

So far no issues and it looks great, thanks guys for updating!
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:59 PM

Wow.. this is FANCY!

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:03 PM

This site now looks almost exactly the same as the AVS forum, BUT I'm not a member there. :(
If I wasn't a member here, "it sounds like" this site would look the same [similar] as Satguys now, which [IMO] can't be a "good thing". :(

Yes, I know I'm "old school" and change takes some effort to get used to, but I did pay not to have ads [any] on this site. [almost :mad:]
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:06 PM

David and Chris: Well done! When I tried logging on earlier today, I got a few error messages -- which I emailed to Chris, so don't know whether you got it or not. At any rate, it's fixed, and looks good so far! :biggthump

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:07 PM

Quicklinks > New posts(DirecTV Forums)

GONE! Where is it? I have no desire to view every new post across every forum, 90% of which I have absolutely no interest in.

IF it ain't broke.........don't fix it..........


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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:08 PM

Hi...This is done to CLEARLY have the threads with new content stand out. If they were just dimmed out with the same color, some monitors can have issues with it as they can not show the shade difference very well.

Thanks


I dont want to sound harsh, but it's not, the orange is not for threads with new content. It is for threads/links you have already clicked on (visited links)! That is why I am saying it makes it extremely confusing to look at. It works for any links on the site, even the forum links and profile name links.

Bold is for threads with new content as it almost always is on vBulletin boards.

An example of this, I clicked on my name and did not click on Chris's name. So mine is orange and his is blue in my browser:
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If I click on his name, then go back. It is orange.

Edited by Grentz, 28 December 2008 - 01:14 PM.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:09 PM

I am sorry, but this is currently how it it works. I do not see a change coming for this one any time soon as it does not seem to be a mod that is currently out their for this version. We will keep looking.

OK, I saw in a previous post there might be a way, it just has not been found yet. Will just have to live with it, no biggie.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:14 PM

Just noticed that the +'s and -'s to the right of the forum titles for expanding/collapsing them are backwards.

Are they?? The - is the topic is collapsed and the + is it is expanded, but what do I know.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:16 PM

I dont want to sound harsh, but it's not, the orange is not for threads with new content. It is for threads/links you have already clicked on (visited links)! That is why I am saying it makes it extremely confusing to look at. It works for any links on the site, even the forum links and profile name links.

Bold is for threads with new content as it almost always is on vBulletin boards.

An example of this, I clicked on my name and did not click on Chris's name. So mine is orange and his is blue in my browser:
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If I click on his name, then go back. It is orange.

I think the color difference is signifying Staff verses non-staff?

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:18 PM

I think the color difference is signifying Staff verses non-staff?


lol, no, its a visited link!

It is the same everywhere in the forum. I will post a before/after.

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All you have to do to try it is click on any link that is blue, then go back, and it is orange (visited link color). It should be just a shade of the original color (or at least something not so bright) so they do not stand out so much and make it so hard to tell new content from old content threads in the forum listings. At least IMO.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:19 PM

I did pay not to have ads [any] on this site. [almost :mad:]


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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:23 PM

lol, no, its a visited link!

It is the same everywhere in the forum. I will post a before/after.

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Posted ImagePosted Image


all you have to do to try it is click on any link that is blue, then go back, and it is orange (visited link color). It should be just a shade of the original color so they do not stand out so much and make it so hard to tell new content from old content threads in the forum listings. At least IMO.

OK, thanks.... still getting used to it myself. ;)

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:25 PM

OK, thanks.... still getting used to it myself. ;)


No problem, I just wanted to make sure people understood what I was talking about so that maybe it can be attended to or at least looked at in the future, especially since it could be a small oversight or misunderstanding in the design as for example David said it was for new content in the forum listings when it is actually not. It can be hard to describe things in words at times. :P

It is really annoying to have a blue and orange mess all over the forum :lol:, but then again maybe thats how the owners/designers want it and that is cool too then. I didn't mean to try and make a big stink about it :P
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:31 PM

Lots of Google ads for how to steal Dish Network service. Are you guys endorsing these types of ads now?

As for the feature to hide forums you do not want to see, the other site (satguys) has it running fine and they are on a newer version of the software (3.8) don't see why you can't do it here too.

So far the only thing I can see that this update did was add more advertisements, and took a lot of features away that many folks used.

No offense but I think this was a big step backwards.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:32 PM

Are they?? The - is the topic is collapsed and the + is it is expanded, but what do I know.

Yeah, in windows the symbol indicates the action you want to take by clicking. ie: click the + to expand the folder, or click the - to collapse it.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:34 PM

"David said it was for new content in the forum listings when it is actually not."

Yes, I messed up what I said. Just reverse what I said. ;)

It is all user prerfence. I went though this when I did AVS some time back. After weeks of back a fourth, this seemed to be the preferred method. Right or wrong in the colors...You will get to know what they mean. :)

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:37 PM

"David said it was for new content in the forum listings when it is actually not."

Yes, I messed up what I said. Just reverse what I said. ;)

It is all user prerfence. I went though this when I did AVS some time back. After weeks of back a fourth, this seemed to be the preferred method. Right or wrong in the colors...You will get to know what they mean. :)

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No problem, just wanted to make sure it was to the attention of the designers ;)

I know themes are pretty much 100% user preference, so it is hard to pick one that pleases everyone.
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:40 PM

Much cleaner layout. Can hardly wait for some more skins. Something that isn't blue on blue on blue.

I am glad I am not the only one.
Great job on the site guys. I do understand all the frustration that goes with it.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:41 PM

Are they?? The - is the topic is collapsed and the + is it is expanded, but what do I know.

In common practice, the collapsed topic is accompanied by a + to expand (add to) the topic and an expanded topic is accompanied by a - to collapse (subtract from) the topic.

In that sense, the sense is reversed.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:44 PM

The "HD Locals Broadcast Issues" forum shows up as a subforum under "Directv Programming and Services" but is not listed under the "Forum Jump" button. It was this way before the upgrade as well.


---FIXED - Thanks it seemed to be an oversite when the forum was made.---

Thanks for fixing it. I probably should have reported it before.

The new look will take a bit of getting used to, but I like it. Unfortunately I can't say the same about the new look of forums.directv.com, which is even worse than it was before.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 01:55 PM

Hi Will...

Let me see if I can help.

"Lots of Google ads for how to steal Dish Network service. Are you guys endorsing these types of ads now?"


I am not really seeing those ads, but if you care to tell me the URLS of the sites that are showing that does this, I am happy to add them to the block list. Not sure how you would get that we "endorse it" from a google ad as Google control the content and anything new can show up without us knowing. But we can block URL's that we do not care to have on the site. So happy to do so. Just PM them to me.

"As for the feature to hide forums you do not want to see, the other site (satguys) has it running fine and they are on a newer version of the software (3.8) don't see why you can't do it here too."

3.8 is not out of beta yet and until it is out for sometime, I will not take the chance with it as I have too much to loose. We will be looking for a way to do this as mentioned.

"So far the only thing I can see that this update did was add more advertisements, and took a lot of features away that many folks used."


The upgrade did A LOT more than that and a few if any features were taken away that we are not looking to add back over time. (Some already have been.) It was clearly noted that the site upgrade was a work in progress.

As far as the ads, with the growth of the site, I am happy but sad, to say the are necessary. Happy as the site needs them based on the increased traffic and thus the costs that go with it. And sad as no one likes to see the ads even though they are on almost every site you visit that is worthwhile.

This site, like others, offers a way to offset that cost by becoming a paid member and thus removing most of the ads from the site.

"No offense but I think this was a big step backwards."

Nope...None taken as I know the change was not only needed for security of the site goes, but also to be able to offer more in the future.

Hope this helps.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:00 PM

I don't see any difference visually.

I don't have orange text like has been posted. Everything looks the same to me.

The only difference is there's no longer a new posts button, next to thread tools. I know there's one up top (and in quicklinks), but it shows the new posts for every forum. I don't want that. I want to see the new posts in the forums I choose. I must have set that up at some point in the old version. Is there a way to set that up now, so that I don't see new posts in sub-forums I don't care about.

I also don't see any new ads. I do see we're using the black dot now instead of the cool check mark.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:02 PM

I note that when I tried to update my Avatar, I was rewarded with an "upload of file failed" error.



Hi...

I just uploaded my avatar without issue. I did not note that if I click on the SAVE CHANGES button without having selected a file I did get the error you mentioned. Other than that, I can not reproduce.

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