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DIRECTV Full Transponder Maps Data of 12/28/08


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#1 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 05:04 PM

The attachments to this post cover all DIRECTV Channels and Transponders, both CONUS (Continental US or National beams) and LIL (Local Into Local or Spot beams).

Three PDF documents provide the data for DIRECTV Satellites at the 73, 99, 101, 103, 110 and 119 West positions, formatted in three ways:

  • A full listing in Network Number sequence
  • A full listing in Channel Name sequence
  • A full listing in Channel Number sequence
Three supplemental documents are also provided:

  • A Transponder and Network Number Networklist reference sheet. This information is particularly useful in understanding the LIL data.
  • A Network Decoder map showing the satellites and transponders graphically as they appear on your receiver.
  • And for those of you who prefer to work with the data in Excel, a file rollyourown.xls is provided.

All documents are fully unprotected so you may copy and use the data as you wish.


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#2 OFFLINE   doctor j

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 05:21 PM

GREAT work again.
Thank you

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 02:34 PM

Looks like the HD test channel placeholders are gone for many markets.
Birmingham and Nashville do not appear:confused::confused:

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 04:51 PM

Reviewing the lists from 11-3-08 and 12-30-08 ther appears to be approximately 150 less LIL channels listed.
Mostly TEST channels on D-11.
Anyone with ideas where they went??

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#5 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 08:36 PM

Reviewing the lists from 11-3-08 and 12-30-08 ther appears to be approximately 150 less LIL channels listed.
Mostly TEST channels on D-11.
Anyone with ideas where they went??

Doctor j


Sorry - I haven't heard any good insights on why the 'test' entries in the transponder maps were removed. Hopefully, it is just a matter of housekeeping for the folks who create this data.

Pay attention to the "Networklist" docs, they too are evolving. This latest dump added Network 602, Huntsville, AL.

Also, the 2008/2009 DMA Ranks are out; I need to check the 'Networklist' for possible updates. Some DMA's may have moved about the ranks in this newest list.


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Posted 09 January 2009 - 11:07 PM

How often do you plan on updating these lists?
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#7 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 11:22 PM

How often do you plan on updating these lists?


I think our past record is something on the order of an update every four to six weeks.

Is there some factor that should be driving us to a more frequent schedule? There are of course, daily -even hourly- changes taking place. What are your thoughts?


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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:24 PM

I would be interested in full update just before or just after any new LIL market releases.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 08:45 PM

I would be interested in full update just before or just after any new LIL market releases.

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I'd love to see updates when new markets or individual channels are added for HD LiL, whether they are live or not.
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:31 PM

Corrections for your list... unless otherwise noted, it's for Sacramento, CA

SA3 - KCRA 3 (NBC)
SA6 - KVIE 6 (PBS)
SA10 - KXTV 10 (ABC)
SA13 - KOVR 13 (CBS)
SA15 - KOFY-20 - San Francisco, CA (TV Azteca)
SA19 - KUVS-19 (Univision)
SA29 - KSPX-29 (iON)
SA31 - KMAX-29 (CW)
SA40 - KTXL-40 (Fox)
SA58 - KQCA-58 (MyTV)
SA64 - KTFK-64 (Telefutura)

SA15 is interesting. The online channel guide on my DirecTiVO reads "Sacramento KTNC 42 (Virtual)", and apparently was to reuse the San Francisco feed. But, KTNC is now part of the San Francisco DMA instead of the Sacramento DMA, with the station located in Concord, which is between San Francisco and Sacramento.

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:55 PM

Unless there are major changes taking place - ie: blocks of channels (markets) moving about - which would necessitate an immediate update, I think your planned update schedule is fine.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:12 AM

Just a note of correction;

On the "network_decoder_v11.pdf" and other pdf files which state similarly, you list the satellite at 72.5 degrees as "DIRECTV-1." It's actually "DIRECTV-1R" which you have incorrectly listed in the core group at 101 degrees. "DIRECTV-1" is located at 91 degrees for use by the Canadian Telesat Co. for providing BSS services into Canada.

DIRECTV-1 has also reached EOL and DirecTV has submitted a Special Temporary Authority (STA) to the FCC to de-orbit the satellite beginning on 2/2/09 if granted here.

http://licensing.fcc...ent_key=-159178

Otherwise, very good work;

Thanks a much. :)

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:20 AM

DIRECTV-1 has also reached EOL and DirecTV has submitted a Special Temporary Authority (STA) to the FCC to de-orbit the satellite beginning on 2/2/09 if granted here.

http://licensing.fcc...ent_key=-159178

Otherwise, very good work;

Thanks a much. :)


I wish the FCC wouldn't use the term "de-orbit" in connection with these sats.

From the document you linked:

36,021 km + (1000*1.2*(63.9/1283)) = 36,080.8 km

Since geostationary altitude is generally considered to be 35,786 km,3 this yields a
desired disposal orbit of at least 294.8 km above the geostationary arc. DIRECTV
intends to boost DIRECTV 1 to at least this height, and in fact will target a height of
approximately 300 km above geostationary altitude.


A much better term is "graveyard orbit" - it'll be up there pretty much forever. "De-orbit" means, to any satellite or spacecraft engineer, to lower perigee sufficient to enter the atmosphere of the body orbited, or impact its surface.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 12:17 PM

Yeah;

That word bothered me also. “Graveyard” or DirecTV’s choice of “Disposal” orbit would be better and more correct. But I think that is just the bureaucratic nature of official government bodies when they create these sorts of formal application procedures involving various scientific and technical issues. They do not always use technically accurate terminology. And worse, I notice it seems once they adopt a term or phrase, right or wrong, it becomes written in stone and hard to change if at all.

But that’s government for you…:rolleyes:

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:49 PM

Just a note of correction;

On the "network_decoder_v11.pdf" and other pdf files which state similarly, you list the satellite at 72.5 degrees as "DIRECTV-1." It's actually "DIRECTV-1R" which you have incorrectly listed in the core group at 101 degrees. "DIRECTV-1" is located at 91 degrees for use by the Canadian Telesat Co. for providing BSS services into Canada.

DIRECTV-1 has also reached EOL and DirecTV has submitted a Special Temporary Authority (STA) to the FCC to de-orbit the satellite beginning on 2/2/09 if granted here.

http://licensing.fcc...ent_key=-159178

Otherwise, very good work;

Thanks a much. :)


Well, it is obvious I need to do some homework. The attachment - a beautiful bit of artwork - was used at the beginning of a DIRECTV Director's meeting in February, 2006. Notice the satellite names on this overhead.

These folks neglected to notice that the sat names and locations were wrong?

No offense intended --- please help me get this darn thing accurate!!

Thanks,
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 03:06 PM

Sure;

I will definitely help with any and all corrective information I come across. And there is definitely no implied criticism here. As I certainly realize this is hard work sorting all this out. And considering that not only is DirecTV of absolutely no assistance in this endeavour, but to complicate matters they are constantly moving things around with up there with the satellites and transponder mappings.

It was actually “Sixto” who corrected me on another thread when I cited the info. about "DIRECTV-1" listed at 72.5 from the PDF, and I was just passing it along here.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:18 PM

Nice work as always. Just looked over my DMA (#15 right now, Minneapolis-St. Paul) and all looks in order. Not much has changed here for quite awhile though besides adding our PBS station in HD ;)
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Posted 25 January 2009 - 01:33 PM

Just curious to know if WGAL (Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA) has changed transponders on 103W within the past few weeks. I had D* here last week to replace an faulty LNB and also to tweak my dish aiming and, afterwards, just about all of the signals on 99c and 103c were up into the mid to upper 90s after the tweak except for transponder 15 on 103s. This one went down to the 70s, although transponder 16 on 103s is now at 99 or 100. Everywhere I see it listed, our HD locals are on transponder 15 of 103s.

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 05:35 PM

Could you do a map formatted in Transponder Number sequence?

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Posted 25 January 2009 - 09:25 PM

I am constantly surprised and impressed by the hard work that some folks here put into assembling these kinds of lists/reports.

Thanks to those of you who share this interesting information with those of us who lack the resources, time, and talent to do so. :)
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