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Shadow Report: Acoustic Research Remotes to support DIRECTV RF


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#226 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 04:00 PM

which one is that? I checked the web site and couldn't figure it out...


Interesting, I can't find it on their site or Best Buy now. Maybe it's discontinued.

Here's a link to it on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B000CCXCYC

I may have to grab a second one since it looks like they quit making it.
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#227 OFFLINE   armophob

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 04:49 PM

Totally agree. I don't understand why Harmony or the makers of the RC remotes hasn't come out with an all in one remote that has D* RF built into it by now.


I have been totally reliant on this rf remote to run both boxes. I was so exited to finally be able to combine both of my Escient and my Sunfire remote with them and clear off my end table.
Might be time to send a spirited email to AR.

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Posted 08 August 2009 - 06:54 PM

I have been totally reliant on this rf remote to run both boxes. I was so exited to finally be able to combine both of my Escient and my Sunfire remote with them and clear off my end table.
Might be time to send a spirited email to AR.

Me too. That way I can keep my HR in RF mode and still be able to operate it in the rest of the house.

#229 OFFLINE   Drew2k

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 09:54 PM

I found a rumor about an RF Logitech Harmony remote ... see the new thread in the Miscellaneous Equipment forum: http://www.dbstalk.c...478#post2180478

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:55 AM

I found a rumor about an RF Logitech Harmony remote ... see the new thread in the Miscellaneous Equipment forum: http://www.dbstalk.c...478#post2180478

But will it be RF compatible with the HR's? I need a remote that has RF and IR all in one, so I can continue to use RF on other TV's in house, while still using RF and IR in the living room at the same time, without having to switch remotes. This is why I was hopeful for the AR remote.

Now if they ever fix the HR's so they can do both RF and IR, then something like that would be perfect.

Edited by TheRatPatrol, 11 August 2009 - 07:15 AM.


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Posted 10 August 2009 - 07:15 AM

Now if they ever fix the HR's so they can do both RF and IR, then something like that would be perfect.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 07:25 AM

I found a rumor about an RF Logitech Harmony remote ... see the new thread in the Miscellaneous Equipment forum: http://www.dbstalk.c...478#post2180478

If this is via an RF extender then it isn't as useable a solution as using RF codes from the STBs. When I used my 890 with the RF extender it is always a pain in the butt to update since I need both the extender and the remote to do this, and the extender is in the media closet a floor or two down. If it is a basic DirecTV RF programable for each STB, then you will get my attention. :)
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Posted 13 August 2009 - 07:22 PM

Xsight is in the wild according to THIS post. Thanks for the heads up, Capn.

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 07:33 PM

There is a thread on AVForums (started in June 2009) saying the schedule by Acoustic Research slipped and the xSight would be released in September, so hopefully this is the case and I can check it out in person very soon...

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 08:02 PM

I'm a little worried about how the color and guide/menu/info/exit buttons are going feel, they look indented?

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 08:04 PM

The do look a bit lower than the surface, don't they? However, on the xSight Color model the color keys appear to be raised, so it may just be an illusion that the Touch does not have raised keys. Either way, I definitely have to hold one in my hands and take it for a spin before being willing to commit ...

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 08:08 PM

Interesting. Whats the big difference between the touch and the color, are they both RF?


The do look a bit lower than the surface, don't they? However, on the xSight Color model the color keys appear to be raised, so it may just be an illusion that the Touch does not have raised keys. Either way, I definitely have to hold one in my hands and take it for a spin before being willing to commit ...

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 09:23 PM

Interesting. Whats the big difference between the touch and the color, are they both RF?

Check out the AR page here, it has links to the Touch and the Color pages with more info, but the
big difference is the Touch has a touch screen, has a recharge dock, is RF capable, while the Color has hard buttons instead of a touch screen and uses standard batteries. I'm pretty sure the price will be quite different between those models as well ... :P

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:27 AM

I wonder if the delays have anything to do with XSight "Touch". Might Apple be upset at the use of "Touch" in the name. :scratchin

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#240 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:42 AM

I don't think Apple can, or has, copyrighted the word "Touch" for touchscreen devices.
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:45 AM

Check out the AR page here, it has links to the Touch and the Color pages with more info, but the
big difference is the Touch has a touch screen, has a recharge dock, is RF capable, while the Color has hard buttons instead of a touch screen and uses standard batteries. I'm pretty sure the price will be quite different between those models as well ... :P

Is this the remote that was talked about as being able to control the HRxx's using RF? I saw this disclaimer at the bottom of the page "*XSight Touch is RF capable with added accessory model ARRE4338". So I watched the "Advanced Features" video and it appears to show an RF to IR extender. If so, it will be no different then what is already available form other remote manufacturers.
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:48 AM

That's not what I was told at CES... I was told the Touch would be true RF, and support DIRECTV remotes without an extender or blaster. Things may have changed in the meantime.
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:53 AM

That's not what I was told at CES... I was told the Touch would be true RF, and support DIRECTV remotes without an extender or blaster. Things may have changed in the meantime.

I believe you were mislead or things have changed, here is a link to the description of the extender: Extender
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#244 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:57 AM

Well, based on the fact that they do not return my calls or e-mails, or even direct me to the right person when I call anonymously, you may be right :)
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 09:12 AM

Well, based on the fact that they do not return my calls or e-mails, or even direct me to the right person when I call anonymously, you may be right :)

If it's true, its one less high priced gadget that I would have wanted.
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 01:10 PM

Is this the remote that was talked about as being able to control the HRxx's using RF? I saw this disclaimer at the bottom of the page "*XSight Touch is RF capable with added accessory model ARRE4338". So I watched the "Advanced Features" video and it appears to show an RF to IR extender. If so, it will be no different then what is already available form other remote manufacturers.


I do not know if that means anything in relation to DirecTV RF capabilities. Even if the remote has DirecTV RF control it would almost certainly still use the traditional universal RF remote extender for other IR equipment that was in a closed closet or cabinet.

ETA: One would think if the remote has DirecTV RF capabilities that would be highlighted or just mentioned somewhere on the web site or in the current brochures and it is not.

Edited by Max Mike, 20 August 2009 - 01:38 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2009 - 07:42 AM

I do not know if that means anything in relation to DirecTV RF capabilities. Even if the remote has DirecTV RF control it would almost certainly still use the traditional universal RF remote extender for other IR equipment that was in a closed closet or cabinet.

ETA: One would think if the remote has DirecTV RF capabilities that would be highlighted or just mentioned somewhere on the web site or in the current brochures and it is not.

I guess we will know for sure once they release it. My first inclination from this disclaimer "XSight Touch is RF capable with added accessory" is that the RF only works with the extender. Unless the RF that controls the extender is the D* RF frequency.
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 08:33 AM

Defining features of the Xsight Touch (ARRX18G) include: • 2.2-inch color touch screen with slider control • IR (infrared) and RF (433 MHz radio frequency) operation, the latter for controlling DIRECTV boxes and components hidden in a cabinet or out of the remote's line of sight (requires $99.99 ARRE433B RF Extender Kit)


http://www.audiovox...._200901074.html

It specifically mentions DirecTV boxes. Why mention DirecTV if it didn’t natively support DirecTV RF. Further it says “for controlling DIRECTV boxes and components hidden in a cabinet” which I also think implies native RF support for DirecTV receivers.

IMHO, this coupled with the info originally supplied to Stuart means they definitely intended to have native RF support. However, with all the delays I have to wonder if something isn’t working out very well.

Maybe URC has a problem with it. :shrug:

I'm assuming that URC came up with the method of using the RID to allow use of RF on multiple receivers.

I hope the XSight Touch comes out with DirecTV.

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 11:22 PM

A new rumor of a remote capable of controlling a directv RF receiver, directly:

http://www.remotecen...hread.cgi?19618

Under the UEI Nevo brand.
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#250 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:03 AM

UEI is also the manufacturer of both the DIRECTV remotes and the AR vaporware remote, so it's worth considering.
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