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Shadow Report: Acoustic Research Remotes to support DIRECTV RF


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#241 OFFLINE   RACJ2

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:45 AM

Check out the AR page here, it has links to the Touch and the Color pages with more info, but the
big difference is the Touch has a touch screen, has a recharge dock, is RF capable, while the Color has hard buttons instead of a touch screen and uses standard batteries. I'm pretty sure the price will be quite different between those models as well ... :P

Is this the remote that was talked about as being able to control the HRxx's using RF? I saw this disclaimer at the bottom of the page "*XSight Touch is RF capable with added accessory model ARRE4338". So I watched the "Advanced Features" video and it appears to show an RF to IR extender. If so, it will be no different then what is already available form other remote manufacturers.
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#242 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:48 AM

That's not what I was told at CES... I was told the Touch would be true RF, and support DIRECTV remotes without an extender or blaster. Things may have changed in the meantime.
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#243 OFFLINE   RACJ2

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:53 AM

That's not what I was told at CES... I was told the Touch would be true RF, and support DIRECTV remotes without an extender or blaster. Things may have changed in the meantime.

I believe you were mislead or things have changed, here is a link to the description of the extender: Extender
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#244 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 08:57 AM

Well, based on the fact that they do not return my calls or e-mails, or even direct me to the right person when I call anonymously, you may be right :)
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#245 OFFLINE   RACJ2

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 09:12 AM

Well, based on the fact that they do not return my calls or e-mails, or even direct me to the right person when I call anonymously, you may be right :)

If it's true, its one less high priced gadget that I would have wanted.
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Posted 20 August 2009 - 01:10 PM

Is this the remote that was talked about as being able to control the HRxx's using RF? I saw this disclaimer at the bottom of the page "*XSight Touch is RF capable with added accessory model ARRE4338". So I watched the "Advanced Features" video and it appears to show an RF to IR extender. If so, it will be no different then what is already available form other remote manufacturers.


I do not know if that means anything in relation to DirecTV RF capabilities. Even if the remote has DirecTV RF control it would almost certainly still use the traditional universal RF remote extender for other IR equipment that was in a closed closet or cabinet.

ETA: One would think if the remote has DirecTV RF capabilities that would be highlighted or just mentioned somewhere on the web site or in the current brochures and it is not.

Edited by Max Mike, 20 August 2009 - 01:38 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2009 - 07:42 AM

I do not know if that means anything in relation to DirecTV RF capabilities. Even if the remote has DirecTV RF control it would almost certainly still use the traditional universal RF remote extender for other IR equipment that was in a closed closet or cabinet.

ETA: One would think if the remote has DirecTV RF capabilities that would be highlighted or just mentioned somewhere on the web site or in the current brochures and it is not.

I guess we will know for sure once they release it. My first inclination from this disclaimer "XSight Touch is RF capable with added accessory" is that the RF only works with the extender. Unless the RF that controls the extender is the D* RF frequency.
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#248 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 08:33 AM

Defining features of the Xsight Touch (ARRX18G) include: • 2.2-inch color touch screen with slider control • IR (infrared) and RF (433 MHz radio frequency) operation, the latter for controlling DIRECTV boxes and components hidden in a cabinet or out of the remote's line of sight (requires $99.99 ARRE433B RF Extender Kit)


http://www.audiovox...._200901074.html

It specifically mentions DirecTV boxes. Why mention DirecTV if it didn’t natively support DirecTV RF. Further it says “for controlling DIRECTV boxes and components hidden in a cabinet” which I also think implies native RF support for DirecTV receivers.

IMHO, this coupled with the info originally supplied to Stuart means they definitely intended to have native RF support. However, with all the delays I have to wonder if something isn’t working out very well.

Maybe URC has a problem with it. :shrug:

I'm assuming that URC came up with the method of using the RID to allow use of RF on multiple receivers.

I hope the XSight Touch comes out with DirecTV.

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 11:22 PM

A new rumor of a remote capable of controlling a directv RF receiver, directly:

http://www.remotecen...hread.cgi?19618

Under the UEI Nevo brand.
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#250 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:03 AM

UEI is also the manufacturer of both the DIRECTV remotes and the AR vaporware remote, so it's worth considering.
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 08:16 AM

Take this with a huge grain of salt since it comes from AR support (via email), but they tell me the xsight can't do native DirecTV RF. I don't know if they really understood the question or not, but that's what they said. The email was signed "Audiovox Customer Care", which owns the One-For-All and RCA remote brands. UEI is the OEM for them. So AR just slaps their name on them and sells them (ok, if they actually existed, they'd sell them). In any case I wouldn't expect AR to know any technical details about the xsight.

The new nevo does sound promising. Their other models are serious remotes (wifi, web, ip device control, etc). The xsight isn't even in the same league as the nevo.

Edited by mdavej, 25 August 2009 - 09:12 AM.


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Posted 25 August 2009 - 08:29 PM

Any links to information on the new UEI Nevo? I searched but couldn't find anything about a new remote.

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 08:53 PM

HERE we go again... :lol:

The new nevos apparently ARE the xsight. I guess the AR deal didn't work out, so they're trying to distribute it under a better known brand. (The xsight is a one-for-all in Europe).

It's promising that they still claim D* RF capability.

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 09:09 PM

HERE we go again... :lol:

The new nevos apparently ARE the xsight. I guess the AR deal didn't work out, so they're trying to distribute it under a better known brand. (The xsight is a one-for-all in Europe).

It's promising that they still claim D* RF capability.

Awesome, as I kind of fell in love with the promise of the xSight in terms of features (not interested in RF) such as multiple profiles and an abundance of favorite channels per activity and macros that hopefully aren't restricted to 5 steps.

Now I will really look forward to the Nevo... :)

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 09:09 PM

Thinking about it, it may be time to lock this thread or rename it to Nevo! :P

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 09:56 PM

I was thinking the same thing, but I'd like to see a few more confirmed sources first ;)

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 10:08 PM

I see you've asked about it at AVS ... I hope you get some info from that dormant thread!

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 11:01 PM

HERE we go again... :lol:

The new nevos apparently ARE the xsight. I guess the AR deal didn't work out, so they're trying to distribute it under a better known brand. (The xsight is a one-for-all in Europe).

It's promising that they still claim D* RF capability.

Very interesting. I wonder when they'll come out then?

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 07:05 AM

I guess it is time to bid farewell to this thread. If someone gets some information on the Nevo remotes, feel free to start a new one.
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#260 OFFLINE   mdavej

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 03:43 PM

"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated".

I saw a post that hh gregg has them. I called my local store to confirm. They really do! They're HERE on their website too. HERE are the specs, in case anyone forgot.

Hope it wipes the floor with the harmony 900.

Who's gonna be the first to test it with DirecTV RF...




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