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****SPOILER*** Refs Change the Titans/Ravens Game


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#21 OFFLINE   JACKIEGAGA

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 01:30 PM

Baltimore had the ball driving when the playclock ran down to ZERO and the Refs don't back the Ravens up 5 yards. Instead they are allowed to run a play and get into Field Goal Range. The NFL has some explaining to do. I'm not a Titans fan either but they got ripped off.


Why didn't they challenge that or they can't challenge it.

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#22 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:09 PM

Why didn't they challenge that or they can't challenge it.


I think the play started with less than 2 min. so couldn't be challenged. And am not sure if delay of game can be challenged. Would be curious if someone finds out.

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:20 PM

A penalty call (or lack thereof) cannot be challenged.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 12:43 AM

A penalty call (or lack thereof) cannot be challenged.


I thought it was a good question, because there is at least one situation where a non-penalty CAN be challenged.

Belichick challenged in one game where he believed the other team had 12 men on the field at the snap. He challenged, and the video replay showed 12 guys at the snap and he won.

I'm not sure, though, if clock management can be challenged.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 07:35 AM

Ok...as a huge Ravens fan


Mike congrats on the Raven moving on to the AFC Championship game good luck

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 07:38 AM

Mike congrats on the Raven moving on to the AFC Championship game good luck


Thanks. It should be another good game between us and Pittsburgh.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 08:42 AM

I thought it was a good question, because there is at least one situation where a non-penalty CAN be challenged.

Belichick challenged in one game where he believed the other team had 12 men on the field at the snap. He challenged, and the video replay showed 12 guys at the snap and he won.

I'm not sure, though, if clock management can be challenged.


Hmm, not sure why he could do that.

If you google it, the challenge rules clearly state that you cannot challenge penalties

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 09:37 AM

Hmm, not sure why he could do that.

If you google it, the challenge rules clearly state that you cannot challenge penalties


I thought the same thing but I clearly remember the game when they reviewed it and the defense had 12 men on the field and they penalized them for it following the review.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 10:23 AM

Twelve men on the field might be the only one you can challenge. I seem to recall that being a named challengable item.

BTW, at least last year, IF a legitimate challenge was initiated, penalties could be assessed or reviewed during the process of reviewing the play. I've yet to see it happen, and who knows, they might have removed that aspect of review.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 10:25 AM

Baltimore had the ball driving when the playclock ran down to ZERO and the Refs don't back the Ravens up 5 yards. Instead they are allowed to run a play and get into Field Goal Range. The NFL has some explaining to do. I'm not a Titans fan either but they got ripped off.

I agree bad no call . But that is not why the Titans lost . They just did'nt play as good as ther record was . Just like Carolina did . They just choked .

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 10:47 AM

The refs in the Eagles -Giants game took away a play after they used replay and determined the play did not get off before the clock hit 2:00.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 10:54 AM

But that wasn't a challenge, right?

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 10:59 AM

Just to add to the no calls a missed safety against the Titans. I thought it was but the announcers never said anything and just moved on. If that safety was called then the game winning field goal would not have even matter. The Ravens would have won 12-10 instead of 13-10.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:03 AM

Just to add to the no calls a missed safety against the Titans. I thought it was but the announcers never said anything and just moved on. If that safety was called then the game winning field goal would not have even matter. The Ravens would have won 12-10 instead of 13-10.

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Yep, saw that too. I rewound that one a couple of times and looked at it. Thought for sure it was a safety, but couldn't remember the exact rule (does the whole ball need to be out of the endzone or only part of the ball). I guess I know now (whole ball).

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:58 PM

Twelve men on the field might be the only one you can challenge. I seem to recall that being a named challengable item.

BTW, at least last year, IF a legitimate challenge was initiated, penalties could be assessed or reviewed during the process of reviewing the play. I've yet to see it happen, and who knows, they might have removed that aspect of review.

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I can't be 100% certain... but I faintly remember a time when a play was being reviewed last year and during the review they could clearly see a facemask that had not been called... and I thought they assessed that penalty.

Again, I could be wrong on that memory... but I know I remember the Belichick one clearly as the announcers praised him for knowing he could make that challenge.

At least in this case we aren't talking about a goof/miss that changed the game. All the Titans turnovers, especially in scoring territory, are what cost them and they said as much post-game.

Carolina really let me down. I was rooting for San Diego but I knew Pitt was good and perfectly capable of a beatdown... but I expected at least some fight from Carolina against Arizona.

At least big kudos and congrats to Arizona and now they get to host the NFC championship game!

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 12:38 PM

they should just change the rule in the offseason at the spring competition committee meetings to let clock hitting :00 plays be challenged.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 12:55 PM

I can't be 100% certain... but I faintly remember a time when a play was being reviewed last year and during the review they could clearly see a facemask that had not been called... and I thought they assessed that penalty.

Again, I could be wrong on that memory... but I know I remember the Belichick one clearly as the announcers praised him for knowing he could make that challenge.
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I don't doubt your memory at all. I'm glad it got assessed. I wish I had a chance to see that one.

(I finally got to see an attempted free kick after a fair catch this year.) :)

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 12:57 PM

they should just change the rule in the offseason at the spring competition committee meetings to let clock hitting :00 plays be challenged.


There is some discussion that it will be reviewed. (But it's the sportswriters saying that, not the committee.) :)

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 01:18 PM

watch NFLN total access show wednesday nite 6:30pm-8:00pm....mike pierera the vp of officials will be on....it will be interesting to get his "take".




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