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#26 OFFLINE   joshjr

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 12:45 PM

Actually it is a bit more complicated. If Directv requests the test and it shows you cannot receive the station, the station pays, otherwise Directv pays for the test. If Directv refuses to test and you arrange for the test yourself, you pay regardless of the outcome.

From the FCC SHVERA Information Sheet:

Alternatively, if your household is predicted “served,” you may be able to get a waiver from the television stations that are predicted to serve your household over-the-air. You should ask your satellite company to request a waiver from the television station on your behalf. The station has 30 days from the date that it receives the waiver request to either grant or deny the request. If the station does not issue a decision within 30 days, the waiver is considered to be granted and the satellite company may provide the distant signals. The satellite company is not required to provide the distant signals and may choose to wait longer than 30 days before doing so.


If the station denies the waiver, you may request to have a signal strength test performed at your household to determine whether the TV station’s signal is at least Grade B intensity. Although the satellite carrier is not required to act on your request, if the carrier accepts your test request, the test should be performed within 30 days after the date that you submit your request. The test must be performed by an independent tester selected by the satellite carrier and the TV station. If the satellite carrier requests the test and the station’s signal exceeds the signal intensity standard, the satellite carrier pays for the test. If the station’s signal is determined not to exceed the signal intensity standard, the station pays for the test. If the satellite carrier does not act on your request for a signal strength test, or fails to respond to you within 30 days, and you reside in a DMA where the satellite carrier does not provide local-into-local service, you may arrange for the test yourself. You will have to pay for the test no matter what it shows and the price may include the cost for the tester to come to your house. The test must still be conducted by an independent tester that both the network station and the satellite carrier have approved.


Thats not true. D* will not pay for a HD test neither will the affiliate. I know this first hand because I just went through it. They both refused to pay it and said I would be out of pocket the money myself if I wanted the test done.

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#27 OFFLINE   joshjr

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 12:47 PM

If you ask Directv they would say that the policy regarding waiver waiting times is 45 days. This issue came up about a month ago for me. I had requested a waiver for CBS HD DNS. After 30 calendar days the waiver was still pending. No matter how many CSR's I spoke to + a couple of emails I was told that despite the law Directv gives the local stations 45 days. With nobody else left to call I started to wait again. Guess what? The damn station denied my waiver a couple of days later. Moral of the story is that although the law says one thing Directv made it's own policy (probably to make nice with local affiliates).


I went through this to. What I did was just submit the waivers myself from D*'s site. D* will tell you that you can only submit them once every 90 days or something like that. Dont listen to that. Its on the site and you can resubmit the day they deny it. I did it for a few months and got all approved excpet CBS and I am still working on it. At some point they get tired of seeing my name and grant it.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 01:34 PM

I went through this to. What I did was just submit the waivers myself from D*'s site. D* will tell you that you can only submit them once every 90 days or something like that. Dont listen to that. Its on the site and you can resubmit the day they deny it. I did it for a few months and got all approved excpet CBS and I am still working on it. At some point they get tired of seeing my name and grant it.


Yea I submit on the website as soon as I'm denied. So far both my NBC and CBS haven't decided that they are tired of me. I've been submitting new waiver requests as soon as I'm denied for several months now.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 01:38 PM

Yea I submit on the website as soon as I'm denied. So far both my NBC and CBS haven't decided that they are tired of me. I've been submitting new waiver requests as soon as I'm denied for several months now.


Dont give up. It happened for me. FOX straight up told me they would not grant it and low and behold it happend. I spoke with the GM there last week and he said I must of slipped through cause it should not of happened. He said enjoy lol. Are you sending waiver requests for SD and HD?

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 01:40 PM

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All DNS Channels are $2.99 per channel. HD DNS channels will also require HD Access at $9.99.

The $2.99 covers both east and west coast feeds of each DNS network in SD. And the DC CW feed is $1.99.
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#31 OFFLINE   joshjr

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 02:02 PM

The $2.99 covers both east and west coast feeds of each DNS network in SD. And the DC CW feed is $1.99.


I think PBS is $1.50 a month.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 02:48 PM

That may be true, but it is only one channel. I dropped PBS when my local OTA became available.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 03:25 PM

Thats not true. D* will not pay for a HD test neither will the affiliate. I know this first hand because I just went through it. They both refused to pay it and said I would be out of pocket the money myself if I wanted the test done.




I actually had this test done for NBC about two years ago and did not have to pay anything, but that was two years ago..

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:46 PM

That is not totaly true because I live outside the Houston area and get both East and West DNS feeds plus all the Houston Locals throw DirecTV.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:09 PM

If I remember right the rule is if you have had HD DNS since before 2004 then you are able to keep it. Now that being said I am pretty sure that I read some lost it anyways. I think Lord Vador was one of them but I think he was able to get his back.


Indeed. I didn't lose them when the December monthly sweep of HD DNS customers was done, but on January 16th they were mysteriously shut off. However, a polite reminder call from me to someone special at DirecTV, whose direct line I was given, got my HD DNS feeds correctly turned back on later that day on the 16th. I was reassured by this individual, who called me today to let me know she's on top of it, that this won't happen again.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:04 PM

Lord Vader,that's good to hear. I think DirecTV's software used to sweep the accounts is not able to distinguish those few accounts that statutorily qualify to retain HD DNS. Maybe your account will now be safe . . . hopefully. But as we've discussed before, don't lose that number, you'll probably need it again.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 10:07 PM

Lord Vader,that's good to hear. I think DirecTV's software used to sweep the accounts is not able to distinguish those few accounts that statutorily qualify to retain HD DNS. Maybe your account will now be safe . . . hopefully. But as we've discussed before, don't lose that number, you'll probably need it again.


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Posted 31 January 2009 - 04:44 PM

I have a question. Before we got our SD locals from D* we got waivers to get the SD DNS Feeds from both the East and West Feeds. We got the waivers from Fox, ABC, and NBC. CBS would never give us a waiver. When D* got our SD locals to us I thought the SD DNS Feeds would be taken away, but they never have been. When and if (?) D* gets our locals to us in HD will these SD DNS Feeds be taken away then?

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 08:18 PM

I have a question. Before we got our SD locals from D* we got waivers to get the SD DNS Feeds from both the East and West Feeds. We got the waivers from Fox, ABC, and NBC. CBS would never give us a waiver. When D* got our SD locals to us I thought the SD DNS Feeds would be taken away, but they never have been. When and if (?) D* gets our locals to us in HD will these SD DNS Feeds be taken away then?

Since I never got a answer to my question,
I just called D* and got them removed myself :lol:

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 12:47 AM

http://money.cnn.com...73_FORTUNE5.htm

Just an FYI due to some things that will be cropping up soon.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 02:44 AM

One can only hope. I live in Oklahoma but get my locals from Kansas and Missouri. I would love to get them from Oklahoma. Time will tell buy I am all for this.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 02:13 PM

Directv has most of this information on their website, as well as additional links that you may need.


The link in that post is bad, goes to "page not found".

Also, might want to add to the RV message the link directly to D*'s info/forms, but this board won't allow me to include the actual URL.

Here's the link part after D*'s domain

/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P1400120&footernavtype=4#

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 03:52 PM

Yes.

Federal legislation allows Directv to deliver DNS service to RVs and commercial trucks without the need for waivers, if the satellite dish is permanently attached to the vehicle. A notarized affidavit stating you have a dish permanently installed on your RV is required. Also of note, boats do not qualify as an RV.


However, DNS on an RV is a waste of money IMHO. If you want the national broadcast networks (ABC/NBC/CBS etc) while you are "on the road", call D* customer service on your cell phone, tell them where you are and they will change your package to include the local channels where you are parked. For example, we are in the Orlando area in our motorhome right now and enjoying the local channels via satellite. And this is a good thing, as the OTA reception in our area is pretty bad. Of course, if you are camped in the Mojave Desert or some other spot that lacks local channels, you may want to consider DNS (g). BTW, we dropped DNS when D* started charging extra for them a couple of years ago. A the time we got both the NY and LA stations.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 06:26 PM

A couple of points--

I believe that you can still get both east and west feeds of SD DNS channels but not HD.

If a station denies a waiver and you have a signal strength test run, you will pay for the test if it shows that you can receive a signal. If the test shows that you cannot receive the signal, the station pays for the test.


Is this actually true? I have both east and west coast SD DNS feeds. Today I was approved for HD NBC and only the east coast was turned on. I would love to get HD DNS for both coasts just like the SD DNS. Anyone?

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 10:22 PM

Not going to happen... the rules have changed, in HD you get one coast only.


Is this actually true? I have both east and west coast SD DNS feeds. Today I was approved for HD NBC and only the east coast was turned on. I would love to get HD DNS for both coasts just like the SD DNS. Anyone?


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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:19 AM

Not going to happen... the rules have changed, in HD you get one coast only.


And it can't be a channel that is showing something before your time zone would show it locally.. SO you can't get west coast either.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 11:22 AM

Yesterday, while I was channel surfing, WCBS-DT and WABC-DT were on. I am on the West Coast, and haven't had them for a number of years. Anyone know what is going on?

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 11:35 AM

Yesterday, while I was channel surfing, WCBS-DT and WABC-DT were on. I am on the West Coast, and haven't had them for a number of years. Anyone know what is going on?


They have them occasionally especially in prime time. You should check nightly.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 01:02 PM

A couple days ago, I had ALL the 80s and 390s on for a while, then poof! They disappeared, and in prime time, too.

Weird.

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 10:15 AM

what is consitered to be a class b picture with dtv a picture that breaks up and pixalates alot.
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