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Breaking News: Senate votes to delay DTV transition four months


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#26 OFFLINE   bobukcat

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:17 PM

All is not lost for those of us opposed to the delay (just rip the bandaid off already!) all is not yet lost. Our wonderful government still has to pass the bill in the house and then work on the differences between them before sending it to POTUS, I have confidence that they can screw around with that long enough to miss the deadline! :grin:

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:18 PM

That figures.:nono2: Now what makes us think that they won't delay it again because were still not ready four months from now? What's the difference February or June? They have been advertising this for months. Too bad if the people are too lazy to go out and get there boxes:mad:
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:18 PM

The article headline at MSNBC is a bit deceptive. Only the Senate has passed this legislation - it hasn't made it through the House and has not been signed by the President. It may be law in a few days, but right now it's only half-way there at best.

Either way, this thing is stupid. It would be much simpler to allocate more funds for coupons, and will likely have to happen eventually anyway.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:19 PM

Fox News just claimed it was official:mad:
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:19 PM

The only morons are the idiots on here crying "foul". You locals will be digital by Feb. They just don't have to shut off the analog channels then. Serious if your locals aren't broadcasting in digital by now, you must be living in that little town "Deliverence" was filmed in.


I don't think that's the complaint that most people crying foul (myself included) have... it's that the government is spending more (of our) money to continue to advertise something that's been advertised for, what, 2 years?

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:22 PM

relax!! why is everyone so angry about this? really? how does this effect any of you?


Because this means 4 more months of those annoying "Digital Conversion coming soon" commercials and crawls....:nono2:

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:24 PM

Wonder if there was this much confusion switching from Beta to Vhs? :lol:

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:24 PM

relax!! why is everyone so angry about this? really? how does this effect any of you?


The only way it effects me and most others is that we have had to hear many times a day that the DTV transition is coming, have had to endure many tests to determine who is ready and countless countdown clocks. Looks like the countdown clocks will have to be reset and we'll have to endure more warnings. I can't wait for the transition to happen just so we don't have to hear about it all the time.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:28 PM

The only way it effects me and most others is that we have had to hear many times a day that the DTV transition is coming, have had to endure many tests to determine who is ready and countless countdown clocks. Looks like the countdown clocks will have to be reset and we'll have to endure more warnings. I can't wait for the transition to happen just so we don't have to hear about it all the time.


Maybe one more comment, buy a DVR and skip the commercials, move the picture on your screen so you can't see the crawls, it will be OK.... :lol:
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:29 PM

Hopefully the house passes their own version with a different date, then this delay can go into committee and get stalled before the current deadline of Feb.

How about March 17th/18th? Let that go to conference committee.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:30 PM

I hear the number is 6.5 million, but wonder where that came from. I think the best thing they could do is shut down the analogs for a couple of days and see the true effect. Once everybody is aware of how well prepared folks are, they can turn the analogs back on and let them know that, due to demand, the date has been extended for four months.

Honestly though, if you really watch TV, you've known this is coming and should have been prepared. The fact that so many are now on a waiting list surprises me.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:30 PM

Yes folks, this is real ..
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:32 PM

What really gets my goat is just the fact that so many people are applying for that coupon in the first place. I bet 90% of them could easily buy one with their own money.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:32 PM

There are people on this forum who it affects negatively. Any station owner/employee. I mean if a station has to spend 10's of thousands of dollars over the 4 months to maintain old equipment, 2 separate signals, and fund all that ridiculous advertising, what's to say that station won't cut jobs to make their budgets?

My own personal gripe (I realize somewhat rare) is that I have a digital signal I should be able to get, completely blocked by the ridiculousy powerful adjacent analog signal. I've been waiting 2 years for this switch to figure out if my situation would improve by the analog signal going away. I guess I'll have to wait more before deciding on getting new equipment.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:33 PM

What really gets my goat is just the fact that so many people are applying for that coupon in the first place. I bet 90% of them could easily buy one with their own money.


That wasn't the point of the program. People wouldn't have to purchase a DTV converter if the transition wasn't mandated... can't punish people because the government wants to sell airwaves. So they created an equitable solution.

What gets my goat is people that get the coupons that don't need DTV boxes.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:44 PM

The only morons are the idiots on here crying "foul". You locals will be digital by Feb. They just don't have to shut off the analog channels then. Serious if your locals aren't broadcasting in digital by now, you must be living in that little town "Deliverence" was filmed in.

Well instead of making insult posts why not understand the problem?
I'll give you a simple example:

WANE-TV 15 (digital 31) in Fort Wayne Indiana is currently operating at it's maximum pre-transition power of 317 kW because they are not permitted to interfere with the analog signal of WPXD-TV in Ann Arbor Michigan. Once WPXD-TV ceases analog WANE will be able to go to full power 1000 kW.

And if you think Deliverence was filmed in Fort Wayne, how about Chicago?

WBBM-TV 2 (digital 3) is on one of the worst digital assignments on the spectrum. When they transition they will be moving to a better channel - digital 12 - but they can't do that until a Milwaukee station and another one in Illinois turn off their analog.

There are just over 800 stations that were approved by the FCC to remain on analog for one month after analog cut off due to the analog nightlight bill. If this new bill limits continued service to those 800 stations and perhaps those who would cause no harm by not moving their digital to their analog channel we might have something workable. But stations NEED to be able to complete their digital construction. Crews and equipment are standing by.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:51 PM

And Congress scratches their butts and wonders why no one has faith in them...

A few idiots from Dumbbell, Chicago are too stupid to read what's right in front of their face complain, and we all have to suffer. It really doesn't take much to get Congress to shiver, shreak, and wring their hands in agony. God help this country.



What does Chicago have to do with this?

The only problem in Far Suburban Chicago is all the people waiting for Channel 2 to change to Channel 12 will have to wait until June to be able to watch CBS. So, Suburban Chicago would have benefited from the the transition happening early.

Hopefully CBS will go ahead and change the Digital channel over, but I don't think that can happen until Channel 11 shuts it's analog channel down.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:55 PM

Couple of things .. (1) it's not approved by the House yet and (2)

The bill would allow broadcasters to turn off analog signals before the June 12 deadline, and public safety agencies would be allowed to use those airwaves as soon as they are available. The bill would also allow consumers with expired coupons for converter boxes to re-apply for new ones.


So this is a bit of good news for those stations are ready to just be done on 2/17 as originally planned.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:57 PM

Yes folks, this is real ..

And unfortunately not spectacular. :(

I'd like to read the language of the bill before getting much angrier ... but changing the date with less than three weeks to go isn't a good thing.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:59 PM

And unfortunately not spectacular. :(


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Posted 26 January 2009 - 08:00 PM

msnbc.com: BREAKING NEWS: Senate approves four-month delay in digital TV conversion

Looks like it won't be until at least June now.

EDIT: Link - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28863961/


while I don't believe anything will stop this just the senate passing it does not make it a done deal yet.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 08:01 PM

Couple of things .. (1) it's not approved by the House yet and (2)



So this is a bit of good news for those stations are ready to just be done on 2/17 as originally planned.


But has been pointed out by myself and others, this creates MORE confusion in the minds of the people who cannot (for whatever reason) "make the switch" . Some of their channels will still go away, others won't and they are thining , "wait I thought that I had until June 12th now"
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 08:02 PM

By the way, can someone find a site where this bill is posted. In spite of being "passed" by the Senate, as of 90 mins ago, it was not on their website.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 08:03 PM

The only morons are the idiots on here crying "foul". You locals will be digital by Feb. They just don't have to shut off the analog channels then. Serious if your locals aren't broadcasting in digital by now, you must be living in that little town "Deliverence" was filmed in.


What about the analog channels that are scheduled to be used by another broadcaster's digital channel?

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 08:04 PM

What about the analog channels that are scheduled to be used by another broadcaster's digital channel?


this is why channels that are ready might not be able to switch on 2/18.

what a fine mess!
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