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Breaking News: House refuses to fast track DTV Delay Act


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#1 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:10 PM

In this morning's vote on the House floor, the House did not reach the 2/3rds majority necessary to suspend the rules to pass the DTV Delay Act. At this point the transition date is still February 17/18, 2009.

I think this means the bill will not pass in time before the transition would occur, effectively killing the delay. (But I very well could be misreading how things work.)

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#2 OFFLINE   CyberTrip02

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:13 PM

I was not expecting that to happen. Most of the brocasters were for the delay because it would allow them to have additional viewers for a bit longer thus increasing revenue streams from commercials. But I understand that smaller stations really are pushing their costs to keep both analog and digital up. Not to mention some can't even go digital untill they cut their analog transmissions.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:17 PM

I believe what this will mean, that later on today they will have a 1 hour discussion and then have the final vote. What they voted on this morning was suspend the rules for the debate. The debate will happen later this afternoon after the debate for the stimulus package.

#4 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:18 PM

Thanks, I was not sure of the procedure. I'll try to keep up :)

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:18 PM

Wow I didn't expect that. Finally congress does something that makes sense. Let the 7% of people who aren't ready suffer. They will figure it out when their TVs stop working and then claim they had no idea this was coming.
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:20 PM

Wow I didn't expect that. Finally congress does something that makes sense. Let the 7% of people who aren't ready suffer. They will figure it out when their TVs stop working and then claim they had no idea this was coming.


And those people that claim to not have been informed probably were not informed. The reason being because they probably rarely watch TV anyways.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:25 PM

The vote ...
On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended
http://clerk.house.g...009/roll041.xml

I wonder what the amendment was? Or are they referring to the senate's amendment?
If the house has amended the bill the changes will have to be reconciled.

#8 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:27 PM

Or does the bill go to the appropriate commitee first?

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:28 PM

woo hoo! Good catch, Tom!
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:30 PM

I seriously doubt the delay will do any good. If a person hasn't received the proper notice by now then it's on them. If this has to do with the converter coupons, give the money to the manufacturers and sell them at what it is with the discount already included.
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:31 PM

Sometimes, every once in a blue moon they do something right in D.C.
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:33 PM

Whatever happens I think a lot of stations are still going to turn off the analog signal on the 17th. Baltimore FOX (WBFF) and CBS (WJZ) have stated last night and this morning they are turning it off on the 17th. I have not check ABC or NBC yet.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:33 PM

Sometimes, every once in a blue moon they do something right in D.C.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:36 PM

Or does the bill go to the appropriate commitee first?

I believe they suspended that last night when the bill was heard on the floor.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:38 PM

The vote ...
On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended
http://clerk.house.g...009/roll041.xml

If the house has amended the bill the changes will have to be reconciled.

As far as I can see, it was 99% along party lines.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:40 PM

Watch it online on CSPAN could not believe it! But there was a republican in the discussion I forgot his name and was saying that they could not delay the analog shutdown because of national security issues that Homeland Security and other Federal Agencies needs the analog transmission in case of a national emergencies.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:40 PM

And those people that claim to not have been informed probably were not informed. The reason being because they probably rarely watch TV anyways.

It also wouldn't matter if it were postponed 4 months or 4 years, or 4 decades. There will always be that small percentage of people who still don't understand or will procrastinate indefinitely.

#18 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:41 PM

James, I don't think so. The first mention of the bill (aside from the message of the bill's passing in the Senate) is the Motion to suspend the rules to pass the bill. It has not gone thru formal introduction, committee processing, etc.

But I'm reading as fast as I can find stuff. :)

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:42 PM

The vote ...
On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended
http://clerk.house.g...009/roll041.xml

I wonder what the amendment was? Or are they referring to the senate's amendment?
If the house has amended the bill the changes will have to be reconciled.

Probably the Senate version was introduced as a substitute amendment for whatever they already had on the House side. But I'm just guessing about that.

I'm not all that surprised they didn't get the two-thirds. I expect they will pass it by majority at some point though, whether via the committee process or otherwise.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 12:43 PM

Reuters is reporting the bill has not passed: http://tech.yahoo.co.../us_dtv_delay_2

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