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FCC Public Notice regarding DTV Delay


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#226 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 08:45 PM

Not that I can tell. I regularly check Thomas' Public Laws: http://thomas.loc.go...1/d111laws.html, and the Whitehouse blog: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/

(As well as the bill's status, which is a bit tougher to bookmark since I go thru a Thomas search that doesn't last.)

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#227 OFFLINE   ibooksrule

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 09:54 PM

Hopefully he does not sign it. I get tired of not being able to pick up NBC here because they use 90% of the broadcasting power for the analog and only a small portion for digital 3450 kW (analog)
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And channel 9 ABC is only 316 kW (analog)
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I do not agree that this will help anyone. People will still wait. And when tv goes dark then they will go get the box. If people are not ready its not the govts problem. If its not a majority then they will just have to deal with it. There are alternatives but of course you can get a dtv converter box.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 06:19 AM

If this bill is allowed to become law without signature, the June 12 date never exists for a period of a couple of days after the existing cutoff date and broadcasters that didn't cease analog operations before February 18th violated existing law that has been in force for years. Yes, I understand the FCC actions of last week were in "good faith" as are the changed plans of a number of broadcasters, but that doesn't excuse anyone of not being able to meet the letter of the current law.

The way this is shaping up, I think it would be very prudent for broadcasters to plan for analog shutdown on the 17th as originally scheduled. The law is the law, as they always tell us, and the FCC, even though acting in "good faith" on a contingency still did not have the authority to change the rules or to permit analog operations past the 17th until the bill was signed into law.

Right now, with less than a week to go and the delay act still not signed into law, the only legally defensible position a broadcaster has is to plan to terminate analog as originally scheduled by current law.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:04 AM

If this bill is allowed to become law without signature,

Interesting speculation, but has anyone seen any credible reports anywhere that the President might not sign the bill?

I think he’ll sign it sometime this week and that will be that.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:34 AM

Interesting speculation, but has anyone seen any credible reports anywhere that the President might not sign the bill?

I think he’ll sign it sometime this week and that will be that.


He's certainly not making any friends in the broadcasting business by waiting this long to act on it.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:37 AM

Only one highpower TV station in the Cleveland/Akron area is shutting down Feb 17. WOAC channel 67 in Canton is the only one that has permission from the FCC to close. WJW channel 8 and WVIZ channel 23 say they many shut on March 14.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 11:57 AM

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE=Tom Robertson;1993563

Not that I can tell. I regularly check Thomas' Public Laws: http://thomas.loc.go...1/d111laws.html, and the Whitehouse blog: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/

(As well as the bill's status, which is a bit tougher to bookmark since I go thru a Thomas search that doesn't last.)


Have you tried Open Congress before? Here you will plainly see the status, glad I could help.

http://www.opencongr...l/111-s328/show

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:39 PM

If this bill is allowed to become law without signature, the June 12 date never exists for a period of a couple of days after the existing cutoff date and broadcasters that didn't cease analog operations before February 18th violated existing law that has been in force for years. Yes, I understand the FCC actions of last week were in "good faith" as are the changed plans of a number of broadcasters, but that doesn't excuse anyone of not being able to meet the letter of the current law.

The way this is shaping up, I think it would be very prudent for broadcasters to plan for analog shutdown on the 17th as originally scheduled. The law is the law, as they always tell us, and the FCC, even though acting in "good faith" on a contingency still did not have the authority to change the rules or to permit analog operations past the 17th until the bill was signed into law.

Right now, with less than a week to go and the delay act still not signed into law, the only legally defensible position a broadcaster has is to plan to terminate analog as originally scheduled by current law.


So, if this is true, it would seem that more stations that are capable of meeting the original deadline might be more likely to do so. Additionally, it would seem that the more stations that do decide to adhere to the original deadline, perhaps persuaded by much better than originally thought "readiness figures" in the NAB report, the less of an actual impact the "delay bill" will ultimately have on the project overall. Interesting.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:48 PM

It would be smart for just about all stations to be ready to transition on Feb 17. At least until we know the status of the bill.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 01:39 PM

491 TV Stations Want To Keep Feb. 17 DTV Transition Date

Between a quarter and a third of all TV stations want to go ahead and pull the plug on analog Feb. 17, which could make for what is effectively a staggered start to the DTV era, depending on how many the FCC allows to go on that date.
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Any station the FCC decides can't go early--because it is not in the public interest--will get the news "promptly," says the commission's public notice, but it does not give a date certain for informing stations. It will have to be prompt, since even if the FCC lets them know today (Feb. 10), they have only one week to change their plans.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:35 PM

Looks like an awful lot of markets have at least one station that wants to kill analog by February 17th.

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#238 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:42 PM

Out of curiosity, I wonder how that map looks if one took the stations that already switched or never had analog.

Obviously with 210 DMAs and only 190ish stations having already switched, it should be somewhat different.

I will comment that using the bar of "One Station planning to switch" seems like it could mislead. If it were "a station from the big 4 (or 5) networks" that might be more telling.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 03:48 PM

Kansas City had one channel go all digital on 15 December 2008, KCWE, CW, before all this mayhem. That would be the only reason Kansas City is green.

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#240 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:11 PM

The map of markets that will be ALL DIGITAL on February 18th is about 11 markets. Wilmington and Hawaii are of course gone ... but in at least nine markets ALL stations have filed to be digital. Hopefully the FCC won't get in the way.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE=Tom Robertson;1993563 Not that I can tell. I regularly check Thomas' Public Laws: http://thomas.loc.go...1/d111laws.html, and the Whitehouse blog: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/

(As well as the bill's status, which is a bit tougher to bookmark since I go thru a Thomas search that doesn't last.)

Have you tried Open Congress before? Here you will plainly see the status, glad I could help.

http://www.opencongr...l/111-s328/show


The one you linked to on Open Congress is the bill that the house stopped. The current one is: http://www.opencongr...l/111-s352/show

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 04:26 PM

491 TV Stations Want To Keep Feb. 17 DTV Transition Date

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Any station the FCC decides can't go early--because it is not in the public interest--will get the news "promptly," says the commission's public notice, but it does not give a date certain for informing stations. It will have to be prompt, since even if the FCC lets them know today (Feb. 10), they have only one week to change their plans.


I would assume that any station ordered to not shut off analogue would have a period for disputing the decision. The FCC could really throw a monkey wrench in to the process by not allowing a station to shut down where there is another station waiting for the freed up channel. Although I doubt that any station told not to shut down will turn to legal actions against the FCC, but legally I think the FCC would be on shaky grounds picking and choosing who has to keep paying an extra electric bill and who does not.

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