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New NewDirecTV policy concerning locals that seems awfully bad!


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#1 OFFLINE   Jhon69

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 07:29 PM

Well it's day 2 that my local NBC channel 24 in Fresno,CA. has been down.Before when a local channel went down DirecTV would give us the national feed until it was fixed.Now after calling DirecTV the CSR replied"Well we only did it twice before".Thanks DirecTV your new policy sucks!.:mad:

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#2 OFFLINE   litzdog911

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 07:37 PM

Not sure that it's fair to call this "new policy". You can bet that they're working to fix it.
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#3 OFFLINE   Jhon69

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 07:54 PM

I went to the channel yesterday DirecTV had the sign up "go to 383 NBCW for programming".I went there no authorization then DirecTV put up" don't call us your local station is having technical difficulties".So yes I would say new policy.:rolleyes:

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:00 PM

Try to refresh services and see if that helps ..

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:03 PM

DirecTV has historically only enabled DNS when the tranmission problem was DirecTV's. If the problem was with the station or otherwise not within DirecTV's control, they don't. I'm sure that's due to some FCC rule, but I couldn't quote it or anything.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:09 PM

Try to refresh services and see if that helps ..

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No didn't work guess that sign that DirecTV has up is true.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:12 PM

DirecTV has historically only enabled DNS when the tranmission problem was DirecTV's. If the problem was with the station or otherwise not within DirecTV's control, they don't. I'm sure that's due to some FCC rule, but I couldn't quote it or anything.



Or regular programming doesn't rate as important as the Olympics or Super Bowl.;)

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:16 PM

It depends .. Sometimes DIRECTV opens up the nationals and sometimes not. It seems random to me, but I'm sure there is a rhyme and reason to it.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:26 AM

DirecTV opens the DNS channels for national programming but must close it again when local or syndicated programming is on. I believe this is either due to agreements with the four networks or concerns about syndication exclusivity.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:58 AM

Or regular programming doesn't rate as important as the Olympics or Super Bowl.;)


Those events only happen with the permission of or at the request by the nationals. At most DIRECTV can suggest or negotiate.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 02:53 AM

Check on the channel at 11:10PM it was back on so this issue is closed until the next one.I just thought it was DirecTV's policy to provide the national feed when the local went out.Which to me would be the best thing to do.;)

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:04 AM

I'm sure DIRECTV would love to but I have no idea as to the regulations and/or the agreements they might have to deal with.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:30 AM

Check on the channel at 11:10PM it was back on so this issue is closed until the next one.I just thought it was DirecTV's policy to provide the national feed when the local went out.Which to me would be the best thing to do.;)


If you think about that for a second I bet there would always be some town with one down meaning that the national feed would be on for everyone all the time and they can not do that. I was kind of under the same impression but after thinking it through there must be something that they go by or like I said it would be on all the time. In my opinion they have been pretty nice to have them on as much as they have.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:56 AM

If you get a Canadian dish, you get both an east and a west coast feed of nbc, abc, cbs, fox and pbs, all in hd.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 09:06 AM

This site does not support international signal theft, which is what it sounds like you're proposing.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 09:54 AM

This site does not support international signal theft, which is what it sounds like you're proposing.


I did not read it that way. There are many folks in the US who pay for Canadian DBS.

But there are other and better forums to discuss the Canadian services.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 09:57 AM

Well you can't blame Directv. If you have cabletv,U-Verse or Fios you would not even have the option of east or west. If they channel is down you are down. So when Directv lets you have it sometimes that is a nice thing on there part.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:31 AM

This site does not support international signal theft, which is what it sounds like you're proposing.


If you like, i can show you a copy of my credit card statement showing payment for such services each month.

I am not stealing anything.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:34 AM

If you like, i can show you a copy of my credit card statement showing payment for such services each month.

I am not stealing anything.


But you are likely breaking the law. US and Canadian laws both prohibit receiving signals across the border, typically arranged by illegally supplying a false address of the receiver.

DBStalk prohibits discussion of falsely receiving satellite signals in that manner.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 12:03 PM

But you are likely breaking the law. US and Canadian laws both prohibit receiving signals across the border, typically arranged by illegally supplying a false address of the receiver.

DBStalk prohibits discussion of falsely receiving satellite signals in that manner.

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And I'm glad dbstalk has this policy. I was previously a member of another site that encouraged this type of behavior, even by moderators.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:47 PM

But you are likely breaking the law. US and Canadian laws both prohibit receiving signals across the border, typically arranged by illegally supplying a false address of the receiver.

DBStalk prohibits discussion of falsely receiving satellite signals in that manner.

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I'm told I need to correct this.

In the US receiving the signals is not illegal for the individual. But providing a false address to the provider so you can receive is still a violation of the provider's terms of service and against DBStalk rules.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 02:07 PM

I begged D to allow me the CBS national feed before it became available and they denied me three times because the local would not allow it. This even though my house is in a hole with a mountain between me and the tower. I would have needed a huge antenna to even begin to pick them up. My guess is they won't give you the national unless the local allows it.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 02:17 PM

I begged D to allow me the CBS national feed before it became available and they denied me three times because the local would not allow it. This even though my house is in a hole with a mountain between me and the tower. I would have needed a huge antenna to even begin to pick them up. My guess is they won't give you the national unless the local allows it.


Indeed, the FCC is thems that set these rules. DIRECTV has likely learned from DISH's legal battles over this.

Too bad the burden of getting the waivers approved is so burdensome to the home owner now. While I completely understand the locals' right to be protected too, as with all regs, there must be a reasonable balance.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 04:28 PM

The ironic part about this is if they(The National Networks) don't provide the programming I want when a local network goes down then I'm forced to watch other local programming.Programming I may find out I enjoy better never to return to watch the programming I normally watched.I guess they have not figured that one out,but they will when the ratings come out.:rolleyes:

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 04:42 PM

From what I understand about the rules the fcc has put down, even the networks don't have carte blanche power to approve the distribution of out-of-market signals. Something about accurate reporting of the viable advertising market for local advertisers. So the actual network can get in trouble if they approve distribution for a customer who does not meet the criteria set by the FCC.




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