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The Shame Thread: Just how bad can it get


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#476 OFFLINE   cwtech

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 07:50 PM

xmguy myself and a few others here are trying to figure out what you think is so horrible and out of code and unsafe you think is wrong here. ( First off let me start off by saying im not taking up for the installer, as yes I do see this as a very sloppy job it could have been done to look a whole lot better ). As for the mounting, nothing wrong there s-tube on a square pole just as it was intended ( although the s-tubes work well on the corner of a brick house also ( i myself have found to really like putting s-tubes on on corners of brick houses " saves a little time too as just haveing to drill 4 holes and anchor in instead of the supposed to at least 8 with a univeral mast and 2 monopoles"). As for the grounding it appears to be grounded to code ( although some companies would fail it just because the ground wire is black from the split bolt to the splitter instead of the required green indacating ground even though it could be the right size). The pic of the cable going into the house, yeah it dont have the bushing, drip loop, or at least bare minimum silicone which would have took all of 2 seconds. ON your defense, Yes the cable routing is extremely sloppy and could have been done multiple multiple ways to actually appear to be professional instead of looking like a lazy installer. But kinda curious what you see as so illegal and unsafe, besides being an extremely sloppy job



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#477 ONLINE   trh

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:00 PM

xmguy myself and a few others here are trying to figure out what you think is so horrible and out of code and unsafe you think is wrong here.

Maybe mpalomba3 is talking about 24 PAGES of this 'shame' thread; not just this most recent one?


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 10:22 AM

Wow, these pix are making me hesitant to switch to Direct TV..  :eek2:

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:35 PM

You could probably fill 24 pages with crappy stuff any TV provider's installers sometimes do, satellite or cable. There is no overall code governing what they do, like there is for electricians and plumbers, so it is easier for them to go off the reservation.

 

Despite that, I'll bet in electrical and plumbing forums you could find some crazy installs that while they may meet code, would still make most electricians and plumbers say "WTF".


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 01:50 PM

That's the truth for sure. And just to show you....

A woman bought a house a couple years ago. after she had bought the house a plumber had been out because her kitchen sink stunk. He said its wrong and needs to be fixed it'll cost a couple hundred or something like that. Other option is to put enzymes down the drain. She didn't believe it was hooked up wrong and used enzymes.

My friend marries her sister I get to know her as well and we become friends. One day she tells me about the sink stink and that she didn't believe the plumber etc. I say well let me take a look. Here's what I saw.....

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Needless to say I fixed it for her and she's stinkless now. ;)

Sadly that's not the only thing of that nature I've fixed. Like a 50 pound cast iron sink held in place with two drywall screws and the trap it was sitting on. Ugh.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 02:04 PM

So what is wrong with that picture...


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 03:00 PM

^^ Shared trap with a disposer isn't such a hot idea.

 

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Since we've moved into plumbing, I'll relate a story I already shared a couple of years ago on another forum. Actually, it involves plumbing and electrical work.

We were having a major landscaping project done in front of the house (pretty much everything ripped out and redone, etc. etc.) In the course of ripping things out, grinding stumps, etc., the stump grinder of course hit the same cable (that had already been hit another time due to it only being buried about 2 inches) yet again. Actually, we eventually found it cut in two places this time!.

Here's where it crossed the walkway to the front door:

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Well, since we were still looking for the second cut, we started inspecting where it crossed the sidewalk. Likely, it would be in some kind of conduit, right? Here was the view of things from the other side (BTW, note how the downspout is adapted to some 4-inch PVC pipe—which is reduced to 3-inch PVC pipe under the walkway. That will become significant in a moment. :)):

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So we started inspecting where the wire crossed under the sidewalk... and (here's the most egregious example of WORKMANSHIT I've come across yet):

One side of sidewalk:

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Other side:

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That's right: what you're seeing is that some ****** "electrician" had blown a hole into that downspout drain and RUN THIS 120 V CABLE INSIDE THE DRAIN PIPE for a few feet, and then pulled it back out through another hole blasted into the pipe. The holes, of course, were not even drilled, but hammered out or something. And then carefully sealed with some silicone blobs (which had already been removed for these photos), because this guy obviously believed in quality.

Holy crap.

And here's where it gets even better: not more than three feet farther along the sidewalk, there are two PE conduits with plenty of spare space for more cables (you can see them in the extreme lower right of the second photo above).


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 03:10 PM

So what is wrong with that picture...

 

Its not really the shared trap, that's normal, the issue is if you look closely, the lines run down to the elbows, then they actually traverse uphill slightly to get to the tee, then go over and into the trap.  They NEVER drain! So it in effect completely defeats the purpose of ever having a trap, as water and stuff sits there and gunks up and smells.  The proper way to install is run the line directly out of the disposal to a tee that then shoots down into the trap so its all downhill and directly into a trap.  Not horizontal to get to the trap, and defiantly not uphill.

 

 

As for that electrical wire, thats a down right fire hazard that way!



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Posted 02 June 2014 - 05:52 PM

Saw these while working in Virginia

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 08:12 PM

Saw these while working in Virginia

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WTH?????????


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:00 PM

I took some up close pictures as-well. Notice the duct tape, Zip Ties, Wire supports, and hose clamps affixed to the pole. you can also see that the pole was sleeved and welded. they even attempted to camouflage it

 

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:22 PM

Any LOS closer to the ground? I've seen some strange mounts where required to get LOS. At least this doesn't get blocked if someone parks a motorhome next to the dish. :)
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Posted 03 June 2014 - 05:18 PM

While we're a tad OT, there's this shocking discovery --

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-- probably on special order only

Just found this and haven't finished the thread but this was a legitimate connector . . .not anything close to a 110 plug.  We had an audio board at a radio station that I worked at as a teenager that had audio connections like this.



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Posted 03 June 2014 - 06:13 PM

I don't remember if I mentioned this before, but I had a friend whose dish was nailed to a pine by the D* installer. Signal would go in  and out according to how the wind blew. Finally, it got so bad she had to cancel.


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 06:20 PM

Just found this and haven't finished the thread but this was a legitimate connector . . .not anything close to a 110 plug.  We had an audio board at a radio station that I worked at as a teenager that had audio connections like this.

 

Shocking, just shocking!


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 07:49 PM

I took some up close pictures as-well. Notice the duct tape, Zip Ties, Wire supports, and hose clamps affixed to the pole. you can also see that the pole was sleeved and welded. they even attempted to camouflage it

 

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I wish I would get jobs like these...


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 08:19 PM

I wish I would get jobs like these...

 

I get upgrades like these....They really suck.


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 08:32 PM

I get upgrades like these....They really suck.

I would tell them to go pound sand.  I dont play with jobs like this.  

 

did not know that 30ft poles were all that common in your market.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 09:39 AM

This was a swap replace upgrade I rolled out to last week. Need less to say, I made about 25 bucks to fix this. That's a rail mount pole fyi.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 09:43 AM

And the after photos.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:15 AM

But yet you left the splice in the cable.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 03:22 PM

But yet you left the splice in the cable.

that is not a splice!  that is a signal measuring point!!!  !rolling


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 04:12 PM

that is not a splice!  that is a signal measuring point!!!  !rolling

 

^ Also used for draining off excess signal when pressure builds up and is a potential

danger to our four-legged felines  -- an RF/CAT safety valve if you will.  :eek:


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 05:16 PM

But yet you left the splice in the cable.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:07 PM

I suppose I could have gone around and rewired the entire house too...




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