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The Shame Thread: Just how bad can it get


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#51 OFFLINE   MrShowtime

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 06:10 PM

Did you put that screwdriver under there, or was it already there:lol:


lol it was there when i got there, i didnt even want to know about that. I'm uploading some pics of another favorite, I'll post them in a few minutes.


Edit: Here they are. The tech charged the customer $65 for "custom cabling". It took everything I had in me not to laugh as she was explaining it to me:

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#52 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 06:24 PM

I'm just wondering out loud how many fire or building code violations are in these photos (and maybe a few health code ones too)...:D
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#53 OFFLINE   BattleZone

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:20 PM

That's custom cabling all right; it's certainly not "standard"!

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 08:32 PM

That's custom cabling all right; it's certainly not "standard"!

Sure hope not :eek2:

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#55 OFFLINE   Talos4

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 06:48 AM

Aside from not putting a slip sheet under the tray I can't really see anything wrong with that. Then again I am not an installer so maybe there is some glaring thing I am missing.


Very Observant!

Those of you who install Non penetrating mounts on low slope membrane roofs, a slip sheet is very important.

Here's why!


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Same mount as pictured before. These can and do move a bit. .45 mil rubber membrane doesn't put up much resistance by itself. The slip sheet (usually just another sheet of rubber under the mount) moves with the mount and slides across the weatherproofing membrane avoiding these kinds of holes and leaks.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 09:27 AM

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I'm confused? whats with the screw driver? :confused: :eek2:

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 09:36 AM

I'm confused? whats with the screw driver? :confused: :eek2:

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Apparently the membrane is stronger than the OP suggests if it can bend a Craftsman phillips head to a 90 befiore it breaks through. :lol:

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 10:31 AM

Actually that's a cotter pin extractor, or what's left of one.
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Posted 09 April 2009 - 10:32 AM

Apparently the membrane is stronger than the OP suggests if it can bend a Craftsman phillips head to a 90 befiore it breaks through.

That's not a Phillips head screwdriver. It's a cotter pin extractor. It came from the Sears store with a 90 degree bend.

I'm assuming the OP stuck the tool in the hole to make it more visible to the camera.

#60 OFFLINE   hummer1823

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 02:53 PM

That's not a Phillips head screwdriver. It's a cotter pin extractor. It came from the Sears store with a 90 degree bend.

I'm assuming the OP stuck the tool in the hole to make it more visible to the camera.


Naw... its a drainage hole. :hurah:

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#61 OFFLINE   Talos4

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 03:00 PM

It is a cotter pin extractor.

I'm in commercial roofing, low slope (flat) This is one of the most important tools we use when inspecting or installing a single ply roof.

It's more commonly referred to as a "Probe" or Seam Probe" It allows us to run a seam and find voids which could lead to a leak or is a leak source.

The roofing system manufacturers sell their own probes for around $15-25 ea. but for about $4.00 ea I buy 4-5 a year. They're like lighters, you always lose them and when you need one....

I also use it to illustrate in this case a hole in the membrane for inspection reports. Photos tell a story and an owner see's the defect much better.

Now before someone say's it, yes it is easy to put the hole in yourself and claim that's the problem. In the language of the Biz...

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 03:49 PM

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yup, decided attaching to the vinyl siding wasn't such a good idea after he'd done it, and decided that flimsy fence was much better.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 03:54 PM

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yup, decided attaching to the vinyl siding wasn't such a good idea after he'd done it, and decided that flimsy fence was much better.


That's a nice damage claim if I've ever seen one.
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:29 PM

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yup, decided attaching to the vinyl siding wasn't such a good idea after he'd done it, and decided that flimsy fence was much better.


Where'd you get a picture of my fence? :lol:

In all seriousness, that looks very much like the fence I used to have that blew over in 35 mph winds a couple of years ago. Same dog-eared tops, about 6-foot tall. Never did replace it.

Why someone would put the dish mounting on the fence is beyond me. I'm not an installer by trade, but I like to take pride in my own work - I would have pole-mounted that sucker.

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:06 PM

This is an international dish ,one of the techs put up 4 months ago.The mast is upside down,used ka/ku monopoles ,and no seal what so ever.And oh yeah,shall i say his pic's in our office for "top performer of the week":grin:
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:09 PM

This is an international dish ,one of the techs put up 4 months ago.The mast is upside down,used ka/ku monopoles ,and no seal what so ever.And oh yeah,shall i say his pic's in our office for "top performer of the week":grin:
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Ouch.

That mast is reversable by the way. Really no top/bottom.
He should have had some of the smaller 1.75" collars for the ka/ku monopoles.
Definately should have some bishops tape for each lag penetration.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:33 PM

used ka/ku monopoles


I guess he doesn't know or ran out of the special brace collars for the intl mast. Now that they don't get shipped with the monopoles anymore.
Should have used self tapping screws. Or the included monopoles.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:52 PM

We don't get the 1.75 anymore since they came up with those new monopoles.He could've flipped the mast the other way and taken out the colars of the monopoles ,and used the existing hole,bolt that came with the kit.

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:54 PM

We don't get the 1.75 anymore since they came up with those new monopoles.He could've flipped the mast the other way and taken out the colars of the monopoles ,and used the existing hole,bolt that came with the kit.


Guess it's just lack of training. But I'm sure there are many markets where international dishes are barely ever installed.
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Posted 02 May 2009 - 03:06 PM

Samuel A Jackson: SWITCH ON A ROOF

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 03:20 PM

Samuel A Jackson: SWITCH ON A ROOF


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Posted 03 May 2009 - 12:22 AM

Here is one I came across recently. I sent it to my boss asking if I could use the existing mount.

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 06:51 AM

Here is one I came across recently. I sent it to my boss asking if I could use the existing mount.


:eek2::eek2::eek2: WTH was that guy thinking!!!! from the small thumbnail I thought it was a telephone pole ( which I have seen used ) but this is INSANE
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Posted 03 May 2009 - 06:55 AM

:eek2::eek2::eek2: WTH was that guy thinking!!!! from the small thumbnail I thought it was a telephone pole ( which I have seen used ) but this is INSANE


That guy is lucky he wasn't hurt or even killed:eek2:

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 07:12 AM

Here is one I came across recently. I sent it to my boss asking if I could use the existing mount.


:lol::nono2::rolleyes:

notice how most of the pics are of Dish Network installs

makes ya wonder doesn't it?
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