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DISH Network(R) Introduces DISH Earth Channel


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#61 OFFLINE   JJJBBB

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:48 AM

It will be fun and games until somebody spots a UFO, then all hell will break loose, license pulled, congress summons Charlie, it just seems like really bad idea. Maybe a time delay so NASA can edit the inevitable sitings?
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#62 OFFLINE   JohnH

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:51 AM

A UFO was spotted last August.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:30 AM

Oh, I looked and it is impressive. And I'm going to get it at "no extra cost" with my Dish subscription payments which were intended to go towards nearly flawless HD TV signals.

So what's this going to do for me, again?


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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:41 AM

really gotta wonder what the point is for any satellite provider in adding more SD channels nowadays? Especially one as lame as this


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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:00 PM

One more channel added to my "Locked Channel List".

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:11 PM

Only works on HD channels


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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:14 PM

I like it. It's different and in real-time (well, almost). I won't spend any great amount of time per sitting, but then, I don't spend any great amount of time contemplating other slow-moving objects.


Yeah, the pictures update every 15 seconds...however it's not every 15 second mark of the clock...so for example, one pic will be at :53, the next at :08
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:16 PM

sd chaenl are wwelcoem always ut if they can irmpvoe the quility i oeyul dbe eber

thechanel has ben fta n eh aps and likos nice ut isbroin , sjua few secosn x


I'm sorry...what was that again? Didn't get the last part of the first sentence, and the second makes no sense whatsoever.
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:16 PM

I used to work at a satellite providers and always liked watching pictures of the Earth from space. Considering DISH already had cameras pointed to the Earth; it makes sense to at least get a birds eye view of the western hemisphere. It also could be useful to tracking large storms.

On the negative side, as night time crosses about 1/2 the Earth, the camera does not adjust its iris to reduce sun glare, which makes the picture look more like watching a total solar eclipse. If DISH could monitor the channel and reduce the glare; we might be able to see a night image of the western hemisphere as well.

For those who do not like the channel, then we take the Earth view for granted. It was in 1968 that the people of Earth got to see the Earth rise from the moon (Apollo 8) for the first time. It was awe inspiring then and it is still today. If nothing else, with the current economic turmoil; it is a good channel to escape to just to decompress.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:18 PM

Yeah, the pictures update every 15 seconds...however it's not every 15 second mark of the clock...so for example, one pic will be at :53, the next at :08


Maybe they borrowed a timer from a 622. :D
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 02:23 PM

and I cant beleive the amount of people that think this channel is a plus..so where did you pull that 80 % number from? let me guess


Well, if you want to cry about it, there's nobody stopping you. but there's this amazing trick that Dish came out with. it's called a remote, where you can SKIP channels you don't like. Most times it's better than putting the effort of whining in on a forum.

By the way, the entire DVR penetration is only about 35%. And if you'd do some research you'd know the answers. instead of just blurting out dumb insinuations

It just seems childish and self indulgent to whine about something that has no affect whatsoever on you.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 03:11 PM

We can't get Speed HD, but we can watch the earth.. Glad to see the priorities are in order. Ugh!
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 03:56 PM

One more channel added to my "Locked Channel List".

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What for? I see no problem with the Earth Channel at all.
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 04:56 PM

Thanks for this posting. As another 'old geezer', I am amazed to see another awe-inspiring view of our planet from space.

Psalms 19:1.
"The heavens declare the glory of God,
the vault of heaven proclaims his handiwork..."

Psalms 33:13.
"From heaven Yahweh looks down, he sees all the children of Adam;from the place where he sits, he watches all who dwell on the earth....

Maybe those Psalmists had some insight after all....
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 05:21 PM

We can't get Speed HD, but we can watch the earth.. Glad to see the priorities are in order. Ugh!


Dish owns the satellite. Dish owns the camera. Dish owns the channel slot that DISH Earth is showing on so no negotiations for carriage.
Dish doesn't own Speed HD, Dish doesn't choose the price it is being sold at to carry, a bit tougher to negotiate a carriage agreement than with DISH Earth.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 05:28 PM

Dish owns the satellite. Dish owns the camera. Dish owns the channel slot that DISH Earth is showing on so no negotiations for carriage.
Dish doesn't own Speed HD, Dish doesn't choose the price it is being sold at to carry, a bit tougher to negotiate a carriage agreement than with DISH Earth.


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Posted 23 April 2009 - 05:35 PM

I like it.

And at only 4 frames a minute and an existing audio feed the bandwidth used is miniscule.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I suspect there is no uplink either.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 05:35 PM

Dish owns the satellite. Dish owns the camera. Dish owns the channel slot that DISH Earth is showing on so no negotiations for carriage.

And Charlie chose to put out the money for the cameras on the satellite, pay for the operation of the cameras, and pay for the costs to send the feed to me and all other subscribers using monies derived from our subscription payments. So there appears to be some loose change somewhere at Dish when the time comes this summer to renegotiate with News Corp. I think is wonderful to know, as I was afraid I'd not only not get FX in HD, but might lose FX in SD.:D

(Yeah, yeah, I know that the camera costs were committed prior to Dish's economic collapse, but the ongoing costs are still there.):nono2:

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:41 PM

I like it.

And at only 4 frames a minute and an existing audio feed the bandwidth used is miniscule.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I suspect there is no uplink either.

As an SD channel the bandwidth is minimal. It *IS* uplinked as part of the mux for the transponders it is on ... to both 110 and 77. The pictures you see are downlinked via a special telemetry channel at slow speed. Having this channel available certainly is easier than figuring out how to receive and decode the slow scan video. :)

BTW: I believe DISH could put up a free porn channel and some would still complain that it wasn't Speed HD or FX HD. People want what they want ... and even the best channel in the world won't satisfy if it is not the one they wanted. Adding this channel does not prevent the addition of any other channel.

BTW2: What ongoing costs? The cameras are there ... they could turn them off but what would it save?

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 08:21 PM

I used to work at a satellite providers and always liked watching pictures of the Earth from space. Considering DISH already had cameras pointed to the Earth; it makes sense to at least get a birds eye view of the western hemisphere. It also could be useful to tracking large storms.

On the negative side, as night time crosses about 1/2 the Earth, the camera does not adjust its iris to reduce sun glare, which makes the picture look more like watching a total solar eclipse. If DISH could monitor the channel and reduce the glare; we might be able to see a night image of the western hemisphere as well.

For those who do not like the channel, then we take the Earth view for granted. It was in 1968 that the people of Earth got to see the Earth rise from the moon (Apollo 8) for the first time. It was awe inspiring then and it is still today. If nothing else, with the current economic turmoil; it is a good channel to escape to just to decompress.


Exactly. I think it is neat. I don't understand why people are so bent out of shape over it. For those of you complaining about bandwidth and cost, start your own satellite service and run it the way you like.




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