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Does 1080p make a difference?


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#1 OFFLINE   Crisman04

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 06:54 AM

Just got a new HDTV, capable of 1080p. My old one was only capable of 720p. Anyway, I don't have a HDMI cable yet, so I have my new TV plugged in with component 720p. I was wondering if 1080p makes a difference yet for all channels? I know there's some 1080p movies available, but other than those, will I notice any difference if I start using the HDMI cables? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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#2 OFFLINE   Ed Campbell

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 07:08 AM

You only need a cheap cable, btw. IMHO, you'll see a difference over 720p component.

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 07:16 AM

+1.. I can tell the differnece.
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 07:40 AM

You should be able to do 1080i via component. If all you are doing is watching broadcast HD you should be more than fine with component, IMO. I cannot tell a bit of difference between component and HDMI when veiwing braodcast HD via D*. And IMO, theres is a slim to none chance that you would notice a difference either. Component resolves a full 1080i or 720p signal for broadcast TV just like HDMI does.

Like the previous poster said though, HDMI cables are cheap if you buy them online. If you really want one order it at www.monoprice.com

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 08:33 AM

Just got a new HDTV, capable of 1080p. My old one was only capable of 720p. Anyway, I don't have a HDMI cable yet, so I have my new TV plugged in with component 720p. I was wondering if 1080p makes a difference yet for all channels? I know there's some 1080p movies available, but other than those, will I notice any difference if I start using the HDMI cables? Any information would be greatly appreciated.


Another advantage of the HDMI is that is passes the full digital audio signal as well, eliminating the extra audio cables needed for the component inputs.
As others have stated, 1080p is not an available resolution for the regular channels. The HD receiver will only output a 1080p signal if the source is 1080p. So the component connection is OK for regular channels.
Yes, there are some 1080p versions of the movies being sent via the Top Movies downloads and some are available via DoD.
One last note, since you have a "new" hd tv you should be OK, but some models of "1080p" sets are not capable of displaying the 1080p/24 signal that the HD receivers send. They can only handle the 1080p/60 signal. You may want to verify that your TV is capable of displaying that signal before getting to far into it.
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 09:28 AM

Buy Blu-Ray player - there is the quality and color !
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 02:54 PM

Just got a new HDTV, capable of 1080p. My old one was only capable of 720p. Anyway, I don't have a HDMI cable yet, so I have my new TV plugged in with component 720p. I was wondering if 1080p makes a difference yet for all channels? I know there's some 1080p movies available, but other than those, will I notice any difference if I start using the HDMI cables? Any information would be greatly appreciated.


If you have a HR22 HDDVR and you "NEW" TV can Do 1080p/24 Then on your remote hit list and then TOP movies -and order 1 1080P PPV movie and your good to go-It's already downloaded to your DVR--enjoy and see the difference.

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 09:07 PM

1280 * 720 = 921,600 pixels

1920 * 1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

In other words, going from 720p to 1080p is giving you more than twice the information on every screen. That's a significant difference.

Of course, not all HD is 1080. Fox, Disney, and ESPN are all 720p networks. But you can definitely see a difference, especially from a 1080 source, such as a DoD 1080p movie or Blu-Ray. The difference will be more apparent with a larger screen as well.

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 10:08 PM

Just got a new HDTV, capable of 1080p. My old one was only capable of 720p. Anyway, I don't have a HDMI cable yet, so I have my new TV plugged in with component 720p. I was wondering if 1080p makes a difference yet for all channels? I know there's some 1080p movies available, but other than those, will I notice any difference if I start using the HDMI cables? Any information would be greatly appreciated.


Everyones eyes are different, Some people will always say there's no difference, some will always say there is, and frankly, there are so many other variables too..

I am extremly picky, and notice a big difference in the 1080p vs. the 1080i I have seen coming from Directv.. I also notice a difference in HDMI cables over component cables, especially if your using cheap component cables. Frankly, Its cheaper to go HDMI... I use monoprice.. You can get a good HDMI cable shipped to you for under 20... so why wouldn't you? You spend thousands on programing and tv, boxes, etc, why not get the best cable (connection wise) and you will have it all...

Personally I have found I really like their flat cables.. They seem to be easier for me to route and properly wire manage...

http://www.monoprice...&seq=1&format=2

This is a great cable, I have many of them.. They also come in white, and other colors if your in the mood for going really wild... :D

Also, don't forget to calibrate your picture with its video settings, for each input on the tv when you hook something up. Most will remember different settings for different inputs these days, and every source has different internal settings too... which means one setting thats good for one source or connection isn't always the best for another...

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 01:32 AM

I have 4 HDTVs - 2 Sonys (52" and 40"), 1 Magnavox (19") and 1 Sylvania (37"). All are 1080p except the Sylvania, which is 720p, and all are connected via HDMI. While the Sonys have a slightly better picture, the Sylvania IMHO compares favorably to them. The Magnavox has, by far, the worst picture (even after many attempts at calibration), even though it's 1080p. I was kind of surprised with the picture of the 720p Sylvania, since it was an off-brand set that I got at a good price.

I guess the bottom line is that just because you have a 1080p TV, it does not necessarily guarantee a superior picture. But, everything else being equal, a 1080p input on a 1080p television should produce a superior picture. For instance, a blu-ray movie on my 52" Sony looks noticeably better than any HD I've received from DirecTV.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 01:02 PM

I have 4 HDTVs - 2 Sonys (52" and 40"), 1 Magnavox (19") and 1 Sylvania (37"). All are 1080p except the Sylvania, which is 720p, and all are connected via HDMI. While the Sonys have a slightly better picture, the Sylvania IMHO compares favorably to them. The Magnavox has, by far, the worst picture (even after many attempts at calibration), even though it's 1080p. I was kind of surprised with the picture of the 720p Sylvania, since it was an off-brand set that I got at a good price.

I guess the bottom line is that just because you have a 1080p TV, it does not necessarily guarantee a superior picture. But, everything else being equal, a 1080p input on a 1080p television should produce a superior picture. For instance, a blu-ray movie on my 52" Sony looks noticeably better than any HD I've received from DirecTV.


That's interesting;

What is the model number of the Magnavox BTW? Is it an LCD TV? While I haven't done an exhaustive search, I've personally never heard of a 1080P HDTV at only 19 in. In fact the smallest screen size I'm aware of at 1080P is 24 inches by Samsung in their SyncMaster T240HD (WUXGA resolution at 1920 x 1200 actually), My brother has this one in his bedroom and I have it's larger 26 inch cousin (T260HD) in mine.

Both produce great pictures too. :)

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:37 PM

That's interesting;

What is the model number of the Magnavox BTW? Is it an LCD TV? While I haven't done an exhaustive search, I've personally never heard of a 1080P HDTV at only 19 in. In fact the smallest screen size I'm aware of at 1080P is 24 inches by Samsung in their SyncMaster T240HD (WUXGA resolution at 1920 x 1200 actually), My brother has this one in his bedroom and I have it's larger 26 inch cousin (T260HD) in mine.

Both produce great pictures too. :)


My mistake. The model number is 19MF338B and, according to the manual has a 1440 X 900p resolution, which makes it a 720p set. Don't know what led me to believe it was a 1080p set, especially at that screen size (sorry).

Still, it has the crappiest picture of all my HDTVs. The best value, by far, was the Sylvania. Picture almost as good as the Sonys at a much lower price.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:58 PM

It really depends on your display device. I have a 61" Samsung DLP. When I switch the output of any device from 720p to 1080p, I definitely see a difference in the overall sharpness of the picture. Not a drastic difference, but its there.

Go ahead and get the HDMI cable. That way you can watch 1080p material with the piece of mind that you are viewing the content in the best possible quality.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:05 PM

Jimbo, what is the model of the Sylvania 37" set? When did you buy it?

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 02:51 AM

So what's the advantage of 1080p versus 1080i? My Sony is only a few years old but apparently doesn't support the 1080p24 that D* uses, although it works with the upscaled 1080p from my Oppo DVD player.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 09:24 AM

So what's the advantage of 1080p versus 1080i? My Sony is only a few years old but apparently doesn't support the 1080p24 that D* uses, although it works with the upscaled 1080p from my Oppo DVD player.

If you are not willing to spend money for new HDTV what support 1080p/24 then the answer will be irrelevant ! On that route you should consider Blu-Ray player also.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 10:58 AM

So what's the advantage of 1080p versus 1080i? My Sony is only a few years old but apparently doesn't support the 1080p24 that D* uses, although it works with the upscaled 1080p from my Oppo DVD player.


The main advantage is that it allows the program to be displayed at the native frame rate in which the film was recorded. Cinema film is recorded at 24 frames per second. To display that on a screen that is based around the 30 frames per second standard used for televison, the frames must be manipulated which can cause a problem with the video motion and removes some of the "cinematic feel". If you want to know more about the "whys", just do google search on "2:3 pulldown".
Another big advantage to this format is that it requires less video data than when it is converted so it compresses better than the source material needed for non-24 frame per second video. This is very important to content providers who are tying to squeeze every bit of usable bandwidth they can out of their infrastructure.
As for the Blu-Ray advantage, that is due much more to the relatively unlimited bandwidth available for image transmission than to the actual "format" utilized.
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