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#21 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 01:51 PM

For the earlier cutover date, the local stations were mostly going at the noon hour, if I recall correctly.

I haven't heard when they currently plan.

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#22 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:02 PM

Here's what I've dug up.

The last possible moment for full-power analog broadcasting seems to be 11:59:59.999 on Friday, June, 12. In other words, when Friday turns to Saturday, analog will be history.

The attached spreadsheet comes from DTV.gov and seems to show the rough times of day when the switchover will occur for each particular station.

So, my suggestion would be to have a backup plan for every recording scheduled for 6/12/09 on an OTA station* and do a final scan on 6/13 that should take into account all final frequency assignments.

*Some locals provided by cable and satellite get to the provider by way of an OTA antenna. The provider will also have to do a rescan that day, so it might not be a bad idea to have a backup plan for recordings on locals via satellite.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:04 PM

It all depends on the station - they had to file Form 387's at the FCC about their plans.

For the record - the official end of analog is 2359 local time June 12, 2009. Stations can start shutdown at 0000 June 12,2009 unless they have had to earlier.

For me - I know of at least 2 stations that are shutting down analog at 1300, and one of those will commence nightlight operation until the first week of July. Most of the rest of the stations that have to move / shutdown analog will be doing so around midnight.

Your results will vary, depending on your location and stations. :D
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#24 OFFLINE   Pete K.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:06 PM

I know in the Atlanta TV DMA, WSB-TV, Channel 2 will end its analog service at 12:30 p.m., June 12, during their 1 hour Noon newscast. Other Atlanta stations that have not already ditched analog will do so at 11:59 p.m. on June 12.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:15 PM

Here's what I've dug up.

The last possible moment for analog broadcasting seems to be 11:59:59.999 on Friday, June, 12. In other words, when Friday turns to Saturday, analog will be history.

The attached spreadsheet comes from DTV.gov and seems to show the rough times of day when the switchover will occur for each particular station.

So, my suggestion would be to have a backup plan for every recording scheduled for 6/12/09 on an OTA station* and do a final scan on 6/13 that should take into account all final frequency assignments.

*Some locals provided by cable and satellite get to the provider by way of an OTA antenna. The provider will also have to do a rescan that day, so it might not be a bad idea to have a backup plan for recordings on locals via satellite.



Did you put that spreadsheet together, because that took ALOT of work to put together...
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:31 PM

Oh, most certainly I did not. The fine people at the FCC did that for me. They did a fabulous job in my opinion.
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 04:48 PM

Apparently we're ready to go all the way back to the dark ages.

At least we had one OTA station available, a bankrupt independent Spanish language station from a repeater that was slated to go digital and still appears on the Google mapping site. But the station being "repeated" is reportedly scheduled to go dark according to a Multichannel News article which links to a PDF (of a spreadsheet list that has the most important column on page 2).

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:09 PM

Not sure if Channel 3's new tower will help you in that situation, but I wish you luck.


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Posted 04 June 2009 - 11:28 PM

Looks like 10 channels will be moving here in la... Should be interesting to see how it all goes down..

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 12:29 AM

Also looks like stations are going at kinds of different times, so everyone will be rescanning all day, but I'd say do a scan on Saturday to be sure after all the dust has settled...

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 04:00 AM

[quote name='kocuba']They were just finishing up the new tower that the antenna will be sitting on last week. Hopefully they have begun mounting the new antenna during this week. But not certain as I have not driven past it this week. But it seems like they are on track to be ready for June 12th as WVIZ will also be sitting on that tower and they just finish some FCC filings that allow them to start at full power when ever they are ready. So hopefully Channel 3 is not far behind.





One of the their retired engineers told me the winds have been too high to install the antenna. The new antenna will allow them to operate on UHF channel 17. That should increase the range and inprove the quality over broadcasting on noisy VHF channel 2.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 05:37 AM

Is it me, or does this remind you of another technology deadline we've seen before (Y2K)?

I'm sure they'll be some hiccups, but generally nationwide....much ado about nothing.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 07:15 AM

Is it me, or does this remind you of another technology deadline we've seen before (Y2K)?

I'm sure they'll be some hiccups, but generally nationwide....much ado about nothing.


And, let's not forget...

It's only TV.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 07:28 AM

And, let's not forget...

It's only TV.

Yes...let's not...

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:50 AM

I am ready, as I have E*, but my GF's mother is OTA. I have set her up with converter boxes, but I won't be able to get over to help her re-scan until Sunday, since we have a wedding to go to on Sat. If one of "her" programs is on a channel that moves and she can't figure out how to re-scan herself, she'll be SOL for a day.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:58 AM

Here's what I've dug up.

The last possible moment for full-power analog broadcasting seems to be 11:59:59.999 on Friday, June, 12. In other words, when Friday turns to Saturday, analog will be history.

The attached spreadsheet comes from DTV.gov and seems to show the rough times of day when the switchover will occur for each particular station.

So, my suggestion would be to have a backup plan for every recording scheduled for 6/12/09 on an OTA station* and do a final scan on 6/13 that should take into account all final frequency assignments.

*Some locals provided by cable and satellite get to the provider by way of an OTA antenna. The provider will also have to do a rescan that day, so it might not be a bad idea to have a backup plan for recordings on locals via satellite.


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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:53 AM

Looks like 10 channels will be moving here in la... Should be interesting to see how it all goes down..


Welcome to my world.... about 70% of my stations are moving / shutting down analog next friday - and no real coordination on times with each other...
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:39 PM

Apparently we're ready to go all the way back to the dark ages.

At least we had one OTA station available, a bankrupt independent Spanish language station from a repeater that was slated to go digital and still appears on the Google mapping site. But the station being "repeated" is reportedly scheduled to go dark according to a Multichannel News article which links to a PDF (of a spreadsheet list that has the most important column on page 2).

Such is rural living....

If you're talking about KTNC (Spanish station from Concord/Mt Diablo). It was reported they were sold and will be staying on the air and joining a new Spanish network being formed. http://sfppc.blogspo...-joins-new.html Yet another channel I'd never watch, but I know there is a market for them.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 04:47 PM

I'm ready for the DTV reminders to get off my screen!!!!!!!!!!


What I don't understand is that I am getting these reminders on what is already a digital transmission.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 06:09 PM

What I don't understand is that I am getting these reminders on what is already a digital transmission.


I had that thought too... but then many stations are not only flipping off their analog but also changing digital frequencies too... so even people already watching digital broadcasts might be confused post-transition if they don't rescan their channels to pick up the new/different frequencies.

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