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A warning to those cancelling DirecTV service...


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#1 OFFLINE   Rambler

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:09 AM

I recently cancelled my D* service, and thought I would give an FYI/warning to those who will be doing it also. When calling D* to cancel, I was told that I would receive a final billing notice for any amount still due including any early termination fees. I was also told that if the bill was not paid within about 6 days of receipt, that payment would automatically be charged against the credit card I had on file with D*. Fine, or so I thought...

Without notice, DirecTV charged my CC for the balance amount within a few days. So be forewarned - no matter what the CSR told you:
- You will not receive a final billing notice.
- You will not have the option to select a payment method.
- You will not receive any type charge notification.
- Any overdraft or NSF fees incurred as a result of the D* charges to the CC acount on file will not be reimbursed.

Just a warning to those about to cancel (and my need to vent), and I hope this information will help reduce or eliminate any headaches that I endured because of this D* service cancellation.

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#2 OFFLINE   joshjr

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:11 AM

How many months early were you leaving? If it was not alot then the fee should not of been very high.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:21 AM

Note also that if you have paperless billing, you won't receive a final bill.

#4 OFFLINE   Rambler

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:25 AM

I just had a HD receiver installed, so it was about 23 months worth of ETF I had to pay back. I knew this when I terminated, but I did not expect the above to happen.

I had not signed up for paperless billing, I always received a bill from D* in the mail.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:37 AM

I just had a HD receiver installed, so it was about 23 months worth of ETF I had to pay back. I knew this when I terminated, but I did not expect the above to happen.

I had not signed up for paperless billing, I always received a bill from D* in the mail.


You cancelled after one month? Can we ask why?

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:47 AM

Isn't it just as simple to stop the auto pay at the time of termination?
I know when I thought I might be leaving, I did stop auto pay, then checked out my local cable service.
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:48 AM

Not trying to take sides with DirecTV, but didn't you get an agreement?

DirecTV Customer Agreement

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:49 AM

I was actually with DirecTV for over 6 years, but just had an HD receiver installed before the cancellation. My primary reason for cancelling was my internet service, and the issues I was having with it. AT&T U-verse became available in my area with the internet download speeds I wanted, and offered a total package price for TV, internet and phone that's about $50 less per month than what I was paying for the combined services (DirecTV and AT&T phone and DSL) previously, and with better internet VoIP phone now.

I was willing to wait it out with DirecTV but the new HD receiver install was nothing less than a fiasco, and was what pushed me over the edge to cancel. A tech came out 3 times to fix issues with the install and it still wasn't working right, causing our 3 household TVs to lose picture or intermittently lose picture. We were fine up until the new HD receiver install though.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:50 AM

Isn't it just as simple to stop the auto pay at the time of termination?


You don't have to be in auto pay. CC on file

This is from the agreement.

(e) Payment Upon Cancellation. You acknowledge that you have provided your credit or debit card account information to us. You understand that you will incur fees and charges as a result of your receipt and use of Service and/or Receiving Equipment, and may incur early cancellation fees and/or equipment non-return fees (as specified in any lease, programming or other service commitment agreement you entered into in connection with obtaining Receiving Equipment). By giving us your credit or debit card account information, you authorize us to apply this method of payment, in accordance with applicable law, to satisfy any and all amounts due upon cancellation. You further acknowledge that you are required to maintain current credit or debit card information with us and agree to notify us whenever there is a change in such information, such as a change in the card number or the expiration date.



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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:53 AM

Isn't it just as simple to stop the auto pay at the time of termination?
I know when I thought I might be leaving, I did stop auto pay, then checked out my local cable service.

I never had auto pay with DirecTV.

Not trying to take sides with DirecTV, but didn't you get an agreement?

Yes, I did. But I didn't think I needed to read it before cancelling. The DirecTV rep who took my cancellation order stated that I would receive a bill in the mail with the final amount due. I didn't think not to take them at their word when they stated this. :rolleyes:

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 11:03 AM

Reps like those just makes companies like DirecTV look bad. When really DirecTV and all other companies are good companies and they provide the info for all teh reps, but the reps just don't take the time to tell the customers the info.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 11:35 AM

I know it's too late now :(

Step #1. Cancel CC DTV has on file (Call CC company tell them it is lost)
Step #2. Cancel DTV service.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:20 PM

I know it's too late now :(

Step #1. Cancel CC DTV has on file (Call CC company tell them it is lost)
Step #2. Cancel DTV service.

Thanks, lesson learned now though. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth for DirecTV. And it's not really the money part, but the principle of the thing. If the retention dept (who I got transferred to) had simply told me how the remaining payment would be handled, then I wouldn't have an issue. I really wanted Verizon FiOS for internet, but it's still not available in my area. If it does arrive then I'll be switching to that, but unfortunately D* won't be getting any more of my TV business.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:34 PM

The real issue is:

Should a Directv customer have the expectation that what a CSR tells them is correct?

The answer is YES.

Reality? Not a chance.

I do not think Directv is any better/worse than any other company on this issue. Low wages, poor training, confusing offerings, etc all contribute to a terrible customer service experience.(and add to this that some customers are not clear in asking their questions or making clear exactly what resolution they want)

I monitor my Directv account on a regular basis. (especially after I have made a change)

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#15 OFFLINE   Rambler

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:47 PM

You're absolutely right Bruce. But my information came from a retention dept rep, who should know how the cancellation process goes. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one they've had to cancel service for. ;)

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 02:06 PM

How many months early were you leaving? If it was not alot then the fee should not of been very high.

Overdraft fees and late charges aren't tied to the unfulfilled remainder of your DIRECTV commitment.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 02:13 PM

I have been a DirecTv customer for more than 12 years now. I've never had a credit card on file with them and i've always paid my bill by check.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 02:18 PM

I have been a DirecTv customer for more than 12 years now. I've never had a credit card on file with them and i've always paid my bill by check.

Suffice it to say that they don't work that way anymore and haven't since the recent churn reduction initiatives were put in place about four years ago.

They now require a credit card and typically do at least a cursory credit check on ALL prospective customers.

When you came on board, the SAC was probably a single digit percentage of what it is now (now around $708)

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#19 OFFLINE   davring

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 02:20 PM

I have been a DirecTv customer for more than 12 years now. I've never had a credit card on file with them and i've always paid my bill by check.


I guess I am another old timer as well, I want something from D* and they send me a bill. :)

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 02:23 PM

I learned my lesson two months ago:
online billing: good
automatic CC charges: bad

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:27 PM

I know it's too late now :(

Step #1. Cancel CC DTV has on file (Call CC company tell them it is lost)
Step #2. Cancel DTV service.


Call me old fashioned, but isn't that fraud? Also, just because you cancel a CC, it does not mean you can't be charged for something you agreed to pay before you canceled. I got a bill five months after I cancelled my Amex because I had pre-authorized a yearly membership. I recall Amex telling me that they will honor charges for 6 months or a year. By the way, once you cancel, if you do carry a balance, the issuing bank probably will charge you the max interest rate. I think the credit card companies think of it as fraud too.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:34 PM

Call me old fashioned, but isn't that fraud?

I don't think that BKC was indicating not to pay the balance, but one way to avoid D* charging to the CC on file and not giving you any other payment option.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:39 PM

I don't think that BKC was indicating not to pay the balance, but one way to avoid D* charging to the CC on file and not giving you any other payment option.


Exactly Rambler :)

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:51 PM

I don't think that BKC was indicating not to pay the balance, but one way to avoid D* charging to the CC on file and not giving you any other payment option.


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I posted and felt compelled to explicitly state the spirit of my post. I think BKC was giving advice in order to help. All I am doing is giving some advice and provoke thought to the contrary. Not trying to attack anyone personally.
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I am not going to dispute your reply to the point that D* should make other options available.

And I am all for giving everyone here the credit and common courtesy that they are not intentionally trying to steal and will eventually pay.

However, you enter into an agreement authorizing a retailer to take final payment from a CC. You know it, and if you are past post 1 in this thread, you do. You cancel your card to get around it for whatever reason. You knowingly are avoiding the commitment you made. I understand if you cancelled a card 6 months ago and did not know or forgot. I'll even edit my post and say I understand that maybe you did not stop to think through, before now, that canceling the card to avoid the terms of the contract might be a bad thing. These things happen. But, to me, doing this intentionally for any reason from (a) I don't think it is a fair practice to (z) I am roach and am starting my career in crime stealing this excellent piece of hardware, the HR-100; the intention is to get out of the terms of a contract knowingly...

1.deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:05 PM

I am not going to dispute your reply to the point that D* should make other options available.

The whole point of my posting this thread was to make people aware that you can't go by what CSRs tell you.

However, you enter into an agreement authorizing a retailer to take final payment from a CC. You know it, and if you are past post 1 in this thread, you do. You cancel your card to get around it for whatever reason. You knowingly are avoiding the commitment you made. I understand if you cancelled a card 6 months ago and did not know or forgot. I'll even edit my post and say I understand that maybe you did not stop to think through, before now, that canceling the card to avoid the terms of the contract might be a bad thing. These things happen.

My commitment was to pay back D* whatever they were due, and I have no issue with that. My issue was that I was told I'd be receiving a "final bill" that never happened. Yes, I may have been a bit naive by believing what I was told. But if I had been told that the final amount due would be coming out of my CC on file (which is an old bank account of mine) and I would not be receiving a final bill, then I would've made sure I had funds in the account to cover it, and I would have never had this issue.

But, to me, doing this intentionally for any reason from (a) I don't think it is a fair practice to (z) I am roach and am starting my career in crime stealing this excellent piece of hardware, the HR-100; the intention is to get out of the terms of a contract knowingly...

Huh, what? Stealing hardware? :confused: I think you're going way past what the issue really is here. :nono2:

1.deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

This almost covers what D* did to me. :rolleyes:




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