Jump to content


Welcome to DBSTalk


Sign In 

Create Account
Welcome to DBSTalk. Our community covers all aspects of video delivery solutions including: Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS), Cable Television, and Internet Protocol Television (IPTV). We also have forums to discuss popular television programs, home theater equipment, and internet streaming service providers. Members of our community include experts who can help you solve technical problems, industry professionals, company representatives, and novices who are here to learn.

Like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community. Sign-up is a free and simple process that requires minimal information. Be a part of our community by signing in or creating an account. The Digital Bit Stream starts here!
  • Reply to existing topics or start a discussion of your own
  • Subscribe to topics and forums and get email updates
  • Send private personal messages (PM) to other forum members
  • Customize your profile page and make new friends
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

eSATA - DIRECTV recommended list


  • Please log in to reply
2883 replies to this topic

#1 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

Doug Brott

    Lifetime Achiever

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 28,909 posts
  • LocationLos Angeles
Joined: Jul 12, 2006

Posted 30 June 2009 - 02:15 PM

Can I increase the recording capacity of my DVR?

For folks that are adding HDD capacity to their receiverss, DIRECTV has added the following FAQ to their web page:

DIRECTV.com

Yes, you can increase the recording capacity of your DVR or HD DVR simply by connecting an external hard drive with greater storage than the receiver's internal hard drive.

First, make sure you have a compatible receiver. Check the model number inside the small door located on bottom right corner of the front of the receiver. The model number should read either R22 (DIRECTV Plus® DVR) or HR20 or above (DIRECTV Plus® HD DVR).

You'll need an external hard drive that uses an eSATA connection. The following hard drive models are recommended:

  • Western Digital 500GB (model WDG1S5000)
  • Seagate 500GB (model ST30500SCA109-RK)
  • Western Digital 1TB (model WDG1S10000)
  • Seagate 1TB (model ST31000SCA109-RK)

Follow these steps to connect the external hard drive:

  • Turn off your receiver by unplugging the power cord. (Do not rely on the power button.)
  • Look for the port on the back of your receiver labeled SATA.
  • Connect the eSATA hard drive with an eSATA cable. Make sure the cable is firmly connected on both ends.
  • Turn on the eSATA hard drive and give it several seconds to spin up to speed.
  • Plug in the power chord of your receiver.

When your receiver reboots, it will automatically see the newly-connected hard drive. The hard drive inside your receiver will be disabled.

You now have expanded recording capacity. With a 1TB hard drive, you can record up to 200 hours of HD programming.

Please note: We offer this tip because we want to help you get the most out of your DIRECTV experience. It is recommended for advanced users who are comfortable working with electronic hardware. This modification of your DIRECTV system is not officially supported by DIRECTV.


Edited by Doug Brott, 06 November 2009 - 04:55 PM.
The directv.com link has been relocated

DIRECTV Firmware Monitor - iPhone - Android - HTML5

DIRECTV employee since August 2011.
All comments are my own. Unless specifically stated, my views do NOT represent the views of DIRECTV

...Ads Help To Support This SIte...

#2 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

Mike Bertelson

    6EQUJ5 WOW!

  • Moderators
  • 13,824 posts
Joined: Jan 24, 2007

Posted 30 June 2009 - 02:21 PM

Can I increase the recording capacity of my DVR?

For folks that are adding HDD capacity to their receiverss, DIRECTV has added the following FAQ to their web page:

link

This modification of your DIRECTV system is not officially supported by DIRECTV.

DirecTV considers this a modification of our system? Interesting.

Official guidance. This is a good thing and step in right direction. :)

Mike

µß
Since it costs 2.4¢ to produce a penny, my 2¢ worth is really 4.8¢ worth.  That 4.8¢ is my own and not the 4.8¢ of DIRECTV, Dish, or anyone else for that matter.


#3 OFFLINE   Drew2k

Drew2k

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 13,661 posts
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Posted 30 June 2009 - 02:27 PM

Hey! That looks familiar! :P

I just posted it 5 minutes ago in the Working eSATA thread, but Doug beat me by a few minutes...

DIRECTV actually has a full-page discussion on drive expansion at the link below:

Increase Recording Capacity on Your DVR or HD DVR

#4 OFFLINE   Kansas Zephyr

Kansas Zephyr

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 1,489 posts
Joined: Jun 29, 2007

Posted 30 June 2009 - 02:41 PM

This should probably be a sticky thread.
5 LNB Slimline & SWM-16
SWM1 2 HR20s & HR21 via SWS-4 "green label" 4-way splitter w/power pass one leg for PI - SWM2 2 HR20s & HR21 after SWS-4 "green label" 4-way splitter
2 HR20-700 Wireless network for DoD
HR20-700 eSATA Vantec NexStar CX w/ 2TB WD20EVDS
HR21-100/AM21 Wireless network for DoD
HR21-100/AM21
With diplexed OTA via an "out" on one SWS-4 4-way splitter, using a Winegard YA 1713 - Channel Master 4228 - Channel Master 7777 in the attic.
Yes, my market has HD LiLs...and I'm still not giving up OTA! No rain-fade, and all sub-channels 24/7/365.
Also, with diplexed Cox Internet on one leg, downstream of a SWS-4 4-way splitter, using a SWS-2 2-way splitter, as a combiner.
R10 via SWM-16 Legacy 1
In boxes HR10-250, HDVR2 & (2) D10-300

#5 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

Doug Brott

    Lifetime Achiever

  • Topic Starter
  • DBSTalk Club
  • 28,909 posts
  • LocationLos Angeles
Joined: Jul 12, 2006

Posted 30 June 2009 - 03:11 PM

This should probably be a sticky thread.


Yup .. I'll keep it stuck for a while.
DIRECTV Firmware Monitor - iPhone - Android - HTML5

DIRECTV employee since August 2011.
All comments are my own. Unless specifically stated, my views do NOT represent the views of DIRECTV

#6 OFFLINE   dave29

dave29

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 5,825 posts
Joined: Feb 18, 2007

Posted 30 June 2009 - 03:17 PM

That's interesting that they even put a 500gb model on there considering that the latest DVR's have a 500gb drive. Although, it would basically double an HR20-21's capacity.
HR34-700, HR24-500, HR22-100, HR20-100, R22-100, R16

My Setup

Diagram of my Directv setup by Milkman

#7 OFFLINE   mabellboi

mabellboi

    Mentor

  • Registered
  • 33 posts
Joined: Sep 16, 2007

Posted 01 July 2009 - 04:37 AM

It says the standard HD becomes "disable"... safe to assume it won't access anything that is already stored on there? Does it turn off the internal hard drive entirely so it's not spinning? Does it copy the content over to the new one?

If I unplug the larger one, and reboot, does that standard one in the dvr become "enabled" again?

Edited by mabellboi, 01 July 2009 - 04:42 AM.


#8 OFFLINE   davring

davring

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 6,378 posts
Joined: Jan 13, 2007

Posted 01 July 2009 - 04:44 AM

It says the standard HD becomes "disable"... safe to assume it won't access anything that is already stored on there? Does it copy the content over to the new one?

If I unplug the larger one, and reboot, does that standard one in the dvr become "enabled" again?


It will not copy any content from the internal drive and yes, if you disconnect the external drive it will revert back to using the internal. Also, whan adding an E-sata drive you will need to rebuild your series links and I believe your favorite lists as well as that info is stored on the HDD.
HR20-700(2.0TB)>Sony XBR-55HX929
HR20-700>Sony KDL40V2500
OTA RS outdoor ant
Hardwire networked to Cysco Router 6.0 AT&T DSL
MRV enabled
R15-500>Samsung LNT2342H
DirecTV customer since 1997

#9 OFFLINE   CopyCat

CopyCat

    Godfather

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 321 posts
  • LocationSouth Carolina
Joined: Jan 21, 2008

Posted 01 July 2009 - 09:29 AM

This also keeps the receiver from being replaced when the hard drive wears out. The CSR will ask if there is a eSATA drive attached and if so, turn off power to the receiver and unplug the eSATA. Now turn the receiver back on.

"Oh it works, you need to get a new external drive, until then you can use your internal drive."
If it an't broke, don't fix it

Slimline Dish w/SWM-5LNB to 8 way splitter.
HR24-500 HDMI Sony KDL-52XBR2
HR24-500 HDMI Sony KDL-46XBR4
HR21-200 - Component Emerson LCD SLC195EM8
All networked via CAT5 to a Netgear 10/100/1000 Switch connected to a Cisco Linksys E4200 to DSL.

#10 OFFLINE   Drew2k

Drew2k

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 13,661 posts
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Posted 01 July 2009 - 09:40 AM

This also keeps the receiver from being replaced when the hard drive wears out. The CSR will ask if there is a eSATA drive attached and if so, turn off power to the receiver and unplug the eSATA. Now turn the receiver back on.

"Oh it works, you need to get a new external drive, until then you can use your internal drive."

From the grin with your post, I suspect you are jesting, right? :)

It's unsupported right now, so I wonder if while troubleshooting a CSR would ask if an eSATA drive is installed. Has anyone experienced this yet?

From other posts here at DBSTalk, it appears that the same error code is given whether the internal or external drive fails, so I would think it's in DIRECTV's best interest to have a different error code for external drive failures simply so that troubleshooting calls would be simplified.

#11 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,127 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:18 AM

From the grin with your post, I suspect you are jesting, right? :)

It's unsupported right now, so I wonder if while troubleshooting a CSR would ask if an eSATA drive is installed. Has anyone experienced this yet?


I haven't talked to any CSRs that knew what an eSATA is. I always ask the CSRs (I only deal with PP CSRs as a rule) if they have an HR. I've only talked to one or two CSRs that did have an HR. Now, they open the door to questions about eSATAs that they will not be able to answer.

From other posts here at DBSTalk, it appears that the same error code is given whether the internal or external drive fails, so I would think it's in DIRECTV's best interest to have a different error code for external drive failures simply so that troubleshooting calls would be simplified.



The only error message I've ever seen was just after an NR and the HR said that the storage device was, and this is a paraphrase, corrupted. That was about an eSATA. I've never seen an error message concerning an internal drive. I've had quite a few replacements that I couldn't activate and they gave no error messages.

I did make the mistake of hooking up an eSATA to a 21-100 before activating it. Still don't know why I did that, it was a perfectly good FAP and the 100 just destroyed it during the boot up process. That's something they should have been included in the message. Something like "Do not attempt to activate an HR with an eSATA hooked up to it."

By the way, I count sixteen acronyms in my part of this post. "...Kettle...Black?" :lol:

Rich

#12 OFFLINE   armophob

armophob

    Difficulty Concen........

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 6,877 posts
Joined: Nov 13, 2006

Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:29 AM

I see editing is alive and well at Directv's web site. :lol:


# 5. Plug in the power chord of your receiver.

#13 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,127 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:37 AM

I see editing is alive and well at Directv's web site. :lol:


# 5. Plug in the power chord of your receiver.


At least they got the sequence right. Glad to see some of them are reading the forum.

I gotta say this: Kinda strikes a chord when you see something like a misspelled word in a document, doesn't it? :lol:

Rich

#14 OFFLINE   oldbamaguy

oldbamaguy

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 203 posts
Joined: Jun 01, 2009

Posted 03 July 2009 - 06:44 PM

I wonder why they didn't mention the Western Digital 2TB WD20EADS??
When I asked DBSTALK what to get, the WD20EADS in an Antec MX-1 enclosure was the eSATA combination most recommended by a wide margin.
Best To ALL!!
oldbamaguy
Eniwetok Atoll 1958
and I was There!!


Two HR20-100s, a HR21-100 and a HR22NC-100, four 2tb eSATAs, four non-beeping UPSs, a Zinwell MS6X8WB-Z, router-modem, Windows 7 PC/Wii feeding a 32" Visio, a Windows Vista/Ubuntu Linux dual boot PC, local p2p network

#15 OFFLINE   Drew2k

Drew2k

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 13,661 posts
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Posted 03 July 2009 - 08:27 PM

I wonder why they didn't mention the Western Digital 2TB WD20EADS??
When I asked DBSTALK what to get, the WD20EADS in an Antec MX-1 enclosure was the eSATA combination most recommended by a wide margin.
Best To ALL!!
oldbamaguy

The DIRECTV recommendations are all for pre-assembled off-the-shelf eSATA drives, that is, they are drives within enclosures so they just have to be unboxed and then are plug-and-play and would work best for the novice user. DBSTalk has some more advanced users, so there have been recommendations here for parts to-be-assembled as well as off-the-shelf eSATA drives. The whole thing is even though it's still not officially supported, DIRECTV still wants it to be as easy as possible for the users...

#16 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

Doug Brott

    Lifetime Achiever

  • Topic Starter
  • DBSTalk Club
  • 28,909 posts
  • LocationLos Angeles
Joined: Jul 12, 2006

Posted 05 July 2009 - 06:13 AM

I think there may be some sort of special processing with the recommended drives, although I don't know specifically what that means.
DIRECTV Firmware Monitor - iPhone - Android - HTML5

DIRECTV employee since August 2011.
All comments are my own. Unless specifically stated, my views do NOT represent the views of DIRECTV

#17 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

hdtvfan0001

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 31,604 posts
Joined: Jul 28, 2004

Posted 05 July 2009 - 08:22 AM

I wonder why they didn't mention the Western Digital 2TB WD20EADS??
When I asked DBSTALK what to get, the WD20EADS in an Antec MX-1 enclosure was the eSATA combination most recommended by a wide margin.

I think there may be some sort of special processing with the recommended drives, although I don't know specifically what that means.

As oldalabamaguy mentioned...a number of folks have successfully used the WD20EAD.

But if it's not on "the list"...using an alternative drive is done at your own risk. You may have no problems whatsoever, but just be aware alternatives have not been "certified" by DirecTV as acceptable.
DBSTalk CHAT ROOM MODERATOR
DirecTV Customer Since 1996

#18 OFFLINE   Drew2k

Drew2k

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 13,661 posts
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:36 AM

As oldalabamaguy mentioned...a number of folks have successfully used the WD20EAD.

But if it's not on "the list"...using an alternative drive is done at your own risk. You may have no problems whatsoever, but just be aware alternatives have not been "certified" by DirecTV as acceptable.

I think it's more fair to say that use of ANY eSATa drive is at the user's own risk, as DIRECTV makes it clear that use of external drives is not officially supported. Also the site only recommends some specific eSATA drives, but it does not say they are certified. To do so would elevate those drives to "officially supported" status.

#19 OFFLINE   harsh

harsh

    Beware the Attack Basset

  • Registered
  • 18,273 posts
  • LocationSalem, OR
Joined: Jun 14, 2003

Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:49 AM

# 5. Plug in the power chord of your receiver.

You didn't recognize this as being a message from Earl?

#20 OFFLINE   armophob

armophob

    Difficulty Concen........

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 6,877 posts
Joined: Nov 13, 2006

Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:44 PM

You didn't recognize this as being a message from Earl?


Ahhh, a secret chode from Earl;)




spam firewall