Jump to content


Welcome to DBSTalk


Sign In 

Create Account
Welcome to DBSTalk. Our community covers all aspects of video delivery solutions including: Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS), Cable Television, and Internet Protocol Television (IPTV). We also have forums to discuss popular television programs, home theater equipment, and internet streaming service providers. Members of our community include experts who can help you solve technical problems, industry professionals, company representatives, and novices who are here to learn.

Like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community. Sign-up is a free and simple process that requires minimal information. Be a part of our community by signing in or creating an account. The Digital Bit Stream starts here!
  • Reply to existing topics or start a discussion of your own
  • Subscribe to topics and forums and get email updates
  • Send private personal messages (PM) to other forum members
  • Customize your profile page and make new friends
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
* * * * * 1 votes

eSATA - DIRECTV recommended list


  • Please log in to reply
3013 replies to this topic

#2401 OFFLINE   Diana C

Diana C

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 1,826 posts
  • LocationNew Jersey
Joined: Mar 30, 2007

Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:04 PM

You would use the Antec MX-1 with the Thermaltake docking station or just one or the other?


One or the other...the MX-1 is a fully enclosed case, with the drive inside. The Thermaltake is a dock - the bare drive is dropped into a slot, but remains exposed.

Dish Network Customer from 9/1998-11/2001
DirecTV Customer 10/2001 - 7/2014

FiOS TV/TiVo Customer since 6/2014
Moderator, DBSDish.com 1999-2000
Co-Founder and Administrator, DBSForums.com 2000-2006

Current setup:
DirecTV: HR34-700 (1TB) / HR24-100 (1TB) / HR24-500 (1TB) / HR21-700 (320GB) / HR21-100 (1TB) / 2 H25s / C41-500 / SWiM16 / Nomad / CCK

FiOS: 2 Tivo Roamio Pros (6 TB total) / 5 Tivo Minis attached via MOCA


...Ads Help To Support This SIte...

#2402 OFFLINE   yosoyellobo

yosoyellobo

    Icon

  • Registered
  • 1,830 posts
Joined: Nov 01, 2006

Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:08 PM

Thanks.

#2403 OFFLINE   CCarncross

CCarncross

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 7,058 posts
  • LocationJackson
Joined: Jul 19, 2005

Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

Just to add, the MX-1 is a fully enclosed case with a fan for cooling....the Thermaltake is just a dock that the drive plugs into vertically. The drives run much warmer in the docks, the trade-off is the fan in the MX-1 can make a little noise, but the drives run literally cool to the touch. Its a choice.

#2404 ONLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,602 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:39 PM

Just to add, the MX-1 is a fully enclosed case with a fan for cooling....the Thermaltake is just a dock that the drive plugs into vertically. The drives run much warmer in the docks, the trade-off is the fan in the MX-1 can make a little noise, but the drives run literally cool to the touch. Its a choice.


So much better to buy what we know will work.

Rich

#2405 OFFLINE   Losi b

Losi b

    AllStar

  • Registered
  • 74 posts
Joined: Nov 26, 2011

Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:47 PM

Don't blame you for asking, I would not read any thread that long. We recommend the WD Green Caviars and the new Red Caviars for the HRs. We know they work in all the HRs. I'd go with one of them.

Rich


I'm sorry but I forgot to mention that I am wanting an "external drive". I can't find a caviar external drive.

#2406 OFFLINE   inkahauts

inkahauts

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,120 posts
Joined: Nov 13, 2006

Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:51 PM

I'm sorry but I forgot to mention that I am wanting an "external drive". I can't find a caviar external drive.


You need to get a separate enclosure for it. Read the last page or two and you will see the two we all recommend the most and their pluses and minuses. I use the antec mx1 myself.

#2407 ONLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,602 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:01 PM

I'm sorry but I forgot to mention that I am wanting an "external drive". I can't find a caviar external drive.


I can't send a link but if you go to Amazon, and put this in the search box: "internal hard drives +WD Red" you will see the new Red Caviars. Various capacities.

Rich

#2408 OFFLINE   Losi b

Losi b

    AllStar

  • Registered
  • 74 posts
Joined: Nov 26, 2011

Posted 03 December 2012 - 06:27 PM

I can't send a link but if you go to Amazon, and put this in the search box: "internal hard drives +WD Red" you will see the new Red Caviars. Various capacities.

Rich


Ok, got it. Unfortunately, I am not computer savy at all.
Rich, with the knowledge that you have concerning the need that I have, would you select a specific model, part number identified preferably please that you would buy for yourself if you had my needs? Also, I now understand that I'll have to buy box/enclosure for it. Would you list a model/part number that would work for the drive that you suggest? Feel free to pm the info if you would like.
Thank you again for tolerating my questions. Your help and knowledge is very appreciated.
Brian

#2409 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,916 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 03 December 2012 - 06:40 PM

But are the Red caviars as good to use in a DVR environment as an av drive? I thought normal error correction was a problem in a DVR type environment.

#2410 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

RunnerFL

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,828 posts
Joined: Jan 04, 2006

Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:10 PM

But are the Red caviars as good to use in a DVR environment as an av drive? I thought normal error correction was a problem in a DVR type environment.


The Red drives are built for NAS, that would be better than an "A/V" drive.

These are the next best thing to WD's "Velociraptor" drives and those might as well be Enterprise level drives.
THIS SPACE FOR RENT

#2411 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,916 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:27 PM

Ok, cool. That's what I'll go with when they change external support.

#2412 OFFLINE   inkahauts

inkahauts

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,120 posts
Joined: Nov 13, 2006

Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:46 PM

The Red drives are built for NAS, that would be better than an "A/V" drive.

These are the next best thing to WD's "Velociraptor" drives and those might as well be Enterprise level drives.


I haven't looked yet, but do they consume the same amount of power as the av drives, or less?

#2413 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

RunnerFL

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,828 posts
Joined: Jan 04, 2006

Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:49 PM

I haven't looked yet, but do they consume the same amount of power as the av drives, or less?


I'm not sure what the A/V drives took up but these claim 4.4 watts for read/write and 0.6 watt in standby.

http://www.amazon.co...M/ref=de_a_smtd

Here's a comparison to other current models:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008JJLW4M

No one labels a drive "A/V" anymore. i think that was just marketing anyways.
THIS SPACE FOR RENT

#2414 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,916 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:02 PM

I believe there were some firmware differences.

#2415 ONLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,602 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:57 AM

I haven't looked yet, but do they consume the same amount of power as the av drives, or less?


When I looked at the specs (the specs I understand :nono2:) I didn't see anything out of the ordinary.

Rich

#2416 OFFLINE   Losi b

Losi b

    AllStar

  • Registered
  • 74 posts
Joined: Nov 26, 2011

Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

You need to get a separate enclosure for it. Read the last page or two and you will see the two we all recommend the most and their pluses and minuses. I use the antec mx1 myself.


I took the time to read the last 4 pages and low and behold, I've got it now. Thanks again for everyone's help and newb tolarance.
Brian

#2417 OFFLINE   Losi b

Losi b

    AllStar

  • Registered
  • 74 posts
Joined: Nov 26, 2011

Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:11 PM

I bought a WD Caviar Green 2tb SATA drive, model # WDBAAY0020HNC-NR5N. I will be installing it in a Antec MX-1 enclosure. I've got my fingers crossed, wish me luck.

Edited by Losi b, 05 December 2012 - 06:49 PM.
Correct wording


#2418 OFFLINE   vistavia

vistavia

    New Member

  • Registered
  • 1 posts
Joined: Dec 06, 2012

Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:44 AM

Went to pickup a WD AV-GP drive, WD10EURX, but the salesperson offered the WD Caviar Black series as an alternative. Wound up getting the Black WD1002FAEX. Does anyone have comments/concerns about using the WD-Black Caviar devices?

#2419 OFFLINE   IwantmyTHX

IwantmyTHX

    Cool Member

  • Registered
  • 28 posts
Joined: Oct 12, 2005

Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:51 AM

How about the 2Tb barrier? Has anyone tried the 3 TB Red Drive yet.
FWIW My MX-1 actually died after 5 years or so.

#2420 ONLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,602 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:04 PM

How about the 2Tb barrier? Has anyone tried the 3 TB Red Drive yet.
FWIW My MX-1 actually died after 5 years or so.


The 2TB barrier is only on the 24s on down. The 34s are different. I had several MX-1s and all died on me. Never bothered to return one. Smashed one to little pieces with a sledgehammer. The noise of some of them was annoying. But they worked. I prefer the docks at the moment.

Rich




Protected By... spam firewall...And...