Jump to content


Welcome to DBSTalk


Sign In 

Create Account
Welcome to DBSTalk. Our community covers all aspects of video delivery solutions including: Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS), Cable Television, and Internet Protocol Television (IPTV). We also have forums to discuss popular television programs, home theater equipment, and internet streaming service providers. Members of our community include experts who can help you solve technical problems, industry professionals, company representatives, and novices who are here to learn.

Like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community. Sign-up is a free and simple process that requires minimal information. Be a part of our community by signing in or creating an account. The Digital Bit Stream starts here!
  • Reply to existing topics or start a discussion of your own
  • Subscribe to topics and forums and get email updates
  • Send private personal messages (PM) to other forum members
  • Customize your profile page and make new friends
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

eSATA - DIRECTV recommended list


  • Please log in to reply
2881 replies to this topic

#2721 OFFLINE   PK6301

PK6301

    Legend

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 315 posts
  • LocationErie, PA
Joined: May 16, 2012

Posted 16 October 2013 - 05:57 PM

Ok, Here is what I have so far..
1. Rosewill 3.5" sata to usb 2.0 & e Sata External enclosure RX358 V2
2. A 3 foot eSata cable from Monoprice
What I dont have a clue on is a Drive.. The enclosure will take up to a 2TB so I was thinking of a WD20EURS.. Good Choice ? If so what is a good price ? Sub $100 Sub $90.. I dont know...
I have 2 candidate DVR'S HR24 or HR44
I know it will only 2X the 44, and 3-4X the 24.. where would you put it. I have never done this before, so please be kind.. Thanx

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk



...Ads Help To Support This SIte...

#2722 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,089 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:26 AM

Ok, Here is what I have so far..
1. Rosewill 3.5" sata to usb 2.0 & e Sata External enclosure RX358 V2
2. A 3 foot eSata cable from Monoprice
What I dont have a clue on is a Drive.. The enclosure will take up to a 2TB so I was thinking of a WD20EURS.. Good Choice ? If so what is a good price ? Sub $100 Sub $90.. I dont know...
I have 2 candidate DVR'S HR24 or HR44
I know it will only 2X the 44, and 3-4X the 24.. where would you put it. I have never done this before, so please be kind.. Thanx

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

 

First, I'd expect the Rosewill to be problematic.  If you need an enclosure I'd go for a Thermaltake enclosure.  If the EURS works with the enclosure and the 44 right off the bat, I'd find that interesting.  I've got a lot of 2TB drives and all are WD Caviar Green drives.  None of them are EURS drives.  I've tried to read every post on this forum about external drives and I've seen many problems with both the EURS drives and the Rosewill enclosures over the years.  

 

One thing about any of these enclosures:  I'm not really sure the makers of the enclosures really know how large a drive will work in their enclosures.  

 

About the 44 and 24.  Both need bigger drives for them to really work well.  With 5 tuners I'd fill that 1TB drive up pretty quickly.  And the 24s with those pitifully small drives cry out for a 2TB drive.  Each one of my HRs has a 2TB drive on or in it and all work very well and are dependable.  Best advice I can give you is to upgrade both of your HRs to larger drives.  And consider the TT docks. They work very well.

 

Rich



#2723 ONLINE   inkahauts

inkahauts

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 14,672 posts
Joined: Nov 13, 2006

Posted 17 October 2013 - 01:43 PM

I'd pop a 3 or 4tb drive in for the genie. Grab a red drive from newegg I think they are on sale right now. They seem very good so far.

#2724 OFFLINE   dtparker

dtparker

    New Member

  • Registered
  • 28 posts
Joined: May 24, 2007

Posted 18 October 2013 - 07:16 PM

I have a WD20EURS in a Thermaltake Max5 with a StarTech eSata cable on my HR23.  No issues.


DirecTV since 10/29/1999

Slimline-5, SWiM 8, MRV with DECA Broadband

H24-700    - AM21n - Toshiba 29" LED  - Exercise room

H23-600   - AM21n - DECA  - Sony 55" SXRD - Bonus Room

HR23-700 - AM21 - DECA - 2TB e-Sata - TT Max 5 - Sony XBR 32" - Bedroom

HR24-100  - AM21 - 1TB e-Sata - WD MyBook AV - Sony 40" W3000 - Living Room


#2725 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,089 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:56 AM

I have a WD20EURS in a Thermaltake Max5 with a StarTech eSata cable on my HR23.  No issues.

 

The EURS HDDs do have a history of failure with some external devices.  Some people just have better luck with them than others.

 

Rich



#2726 OFFLINE   Starrbuck

Starrbuck

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 156 posts
  • LocationDFW, TX
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

Posted 20 October 2013 - 07:56 AM

First, I'd expect the Rosewill to be problematic.

 

Why?


*** DirecTV customer since 2004 ***

 

HR44-700 (2TB) + AM-21 -> Panasonic TC-PST60 Series 60" Plasma

HR24-500 (2TB) -> Samsung 6000 Series 55" LED

C41-700 & C41-500

 


#2727 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,089 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 20 October 2013 - 09:56 AM

Why?

 

Good question.  I read every post about eSATAs and I've read many posts about problems with Rosewill enclosures.  Weaknees used them for a bit, then started using another enclosure.  Probably because of the same reasons I read in all those posts.  Doesn't mean every Rosewill will have problems, just saw too many posts about problems with them to ever buy one.

 

We don't expect anyone to read the terribly long threads about external HDDs and their devices.  If you just read the most recent posts, you'll be fine.  

 

Rich



#2728 OFFLINE   alcatholic

alcatholic

    Cool Member

  • Registered
  • 18 posts
Joined: Feb 19, 2013

Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:03 AM

You didn't have to initialize the EURS, you should have been able to put it in the enclosure and the 23 would have formatted it. Would have been really interesting if you had put it in the enclosure, have it fail to format and then have success after putting it on your computer and initializing it.

Rich


Rich,

That is exactly what I did. I have an HR44-500 and 3tb EURS.

The brand new 3tb EURS that would fail to format. I tried two different enclosures: Thermaltake dock everyone recommends (dual bay), and the Rosswill 358v2 that a few people have had problems with.

I was about to buy another enclosure, the Max 5, when I decided to try formatting the drive on my iMac. The iMac would only format it in HFS+ not FAT.

When I transferred the drive to the Rosswill enclosure the HR44 formatted the drive! I had a feeling it would work. Prior to Mac formatting the Rosswill enclosure would spin the drive for about 20 seconds and then spin down. After formatting the drive would keep spinning. I could then plug the drive into the unplugged HR44, plug in the HR44, and everything worked.

My sense is that the Rosswill enclosure didn't like the unformatted drive, but apparently neither did the dual bay Thermaltake dock. In any case formatting the drive on a PC solved my problem.


Sent from my iPhone using DBSTalk mobile app

#2729 OFFLINE   PK6301

PK6301

    Legend

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 315 posts
  • LocationErie, PA
Joined: May 16, 2012

Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:50 PM

Help,
I am getting the supplis ready to upgrade my HR24. I have an enclosure, esata cable, and I know I can use up to a 2TB drive.

Now my question, I also have a HR44. I was thinking of a 3TB but I found some 4TB for a few dollars more. Do they make enclosures that will handle a drive that size, or will I have to set up a RAID.

I am having delusions of grandeur thinking "I can do that" when in reality I dont have a clue. My computer friends do, but not me.

If there are enclosures please let me know model #s.... Thank You..

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk



#2730 ONLINE   RunnerFL

RunnerFL

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,675 posts
Joined: Jan 04, 2006

Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:23 PM

Yes, there are single drive enclosures that will support a 4TB drive.  I believe the TT Dock is one of them.


THIS SPACE FOR RENT

#2731 OFFLINE   PK6301

PK6301

    Legend

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 315 posts
  • LocationErie, PA
Joined: May 16, 2012

Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:34 PM

Yes, there are single drive enclosures that will support a 4TB drive. I believe the TT Dock is one of them.

Expound please TT Dock ?

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk



#2732 ONLINE   RunnerFL

RunnerFL

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 15,675 posts
Joined: Jan 04, 2006

Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:34 PM

Expound please TT Dock ?

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

 

ThermalTake Dock, mentioned many times in this thread.


THIS SPACE FOR RENT

#2733 OFFLINE   PK6301

PK6301

    Legend

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 315 posts
  • LocationErie, PA
Joined: May 16, 2012

Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:52 PM

ThermalTake Dock, mentioned many times in this thread.

Forgive me, I did not take the time to read the previous 2650 posts...

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk



#2734 ONLINE   inkahauts

inkahauts

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 14,672 posts
Joined: Nov 13, 2006

Posted 21 October 2013 - 01:07 AM

Forgive me, I did not take the time to read the previous 2650 posts...

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

Well that's just lazy? !rolling

I'm Just kidding. This thread, I'd say read the last three or four pages (40 posts a page) and you are usually up to date,on the latest. We should probably refresh this thread a couple times a year so its easier to read through to be honest.

#2735 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,089 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:41 AM

Rich,

That is exactly what I did. I have an HR44-500 and 3tb EURS.

The brand new 3tb EURS that would fail to format. I tried two different enclosures: Thermaltake dock everyone recommends (dual bay), and the Rosswill 358v2 that a few people have had problems with.

I was about to buy another enclosure, the Max 5, when I decided to try formatting the drive on my iMac. The iMac would only format it in HFS+ not FAT.

When I transferred the drive to the Rosswill enclosure the HR44 formatted the drive! I had a feeling it would work. Prior to Mac formatting the Rosswill enclosure would spin the drive for about 20 seconds and then spin down. After formatting the drive would keep spinning. I could then plug the drive into the unplugged HR44, plug in the HR44, and everything worked.

My sense is that the Rosswill enclosure didn't like the unformatted drive, but apparently neither did the dual bay Thermaltake dock. In any case formatting the drive on a PC solved my problem.


Sent from my iPhone using DBSTalk mobile app

 

Good post!  Putting the 3TB drive on a 24 would have done the same thing, I think, but what you did is interesting.  Did you have a chance to put the 3TB drive in the dock or the Max?  Probably would have worked with them, too.  Maybe.  

 

Rich



#2736 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,089 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:45 AM

Yes, there are single drive enclosures that will support a 4TB drive.  I believe the TT Dock is one of them.

 

I think I remember someone using a 3TB HDD in a TT dock.  Don't know how high you can go in one.

 

Rich



#2737 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,089 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:47 AM

Expound please TT Dock ?

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

 

Here's a LINK.

 

Rich



#2738 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,089 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:50 AM

Forgive me, I did not take the time to read the previous 2650 posts...

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

 

I've read them and there's a lot of bad info in the earlier posts.  Best to follow Inkahaut's advice about how to manage these unwieldy threads.

 

Rich



#2739 OFFLINE   purrdue

purrdue

    New Member

  • Registered
  • 8 posts
Joined: Sep 05, 2011

Posted 22 October 2013 - 09:42 PM

Hi.  I was wondering if any one has successfully used a 3tb eurx drive http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822236602 with a thermaltake BlacX ST0005U and the hr44.  I think the only difference between the eurs and eurx is the interface rate eurs 3Gb/s eurx 6Gb/s.  according to the specs on wd website.  Can Dtv and the hr44 handle the 6GB/s.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I'm almost out of space because I got the genie to replace hr20 and re recording things I had on the 2tb external hr20 and it filled up quickly.  Thanks again for any help concerning those drives.


Edited by purrdue, 23 October 2013 - 12:41 AM.


#2740 OFFLINE   Rich

Rich

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 20,089 posts
  • LocationPiscataway, NJ
Joined: Feb 22, 2007

Posted 23 October 2013 - 10:32 AM

Hi.  I was wondering if any one has successfully used a 3tb eurx drive http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822236602 with a thermaltake BlacX ST0005U and the hr44.  I think the only difference between the eurs and eurx is the interface rate eurs 3Gb/s eurx 6Gb/s.  according to the specs on wd website.  Can Dtv and the hr44 handle the 6GB/s.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I'm almost out of space because I got the genie to replace hr20 and re recording things I had on the 2tb external hr20 and it filled up quickly.  Thanks again for any help concerning those drives.

 

Pretty sure it will work.  Only way to know for sure is to try it.  The EURS drives have been a bit of a problem.  You'll want to format the drive in another HR before putting it on the 44-500, I think.

 

Rich






spam firewall