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#2941 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:16 PM

 

And lastly - theoretically, I could connect a different drive to the Genie and, say, record a lot of film noir or other movies on it, then disconnect and connect a different drive for normal daily recordings, then reconnect the "movie drive" when I wanted to watch those, right? I don't anticipate needing to do this, but on our Dish system we tend to packrat a lot of stuff we want to watch later on an external USB drive.

 

Sure, you can however keep in mind that your Series Links go with the hard drive so you'd need to setup Series Links for each drive.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:42 PM

As others have mentioned, 2 TB is easy, no special initialization needed. Above 2 TB, some of the Genie's (like the HR44-700) require drive initialization on a PC before connecting to the D* box. I'm using a 2 TB and a Max 5 enclosure by ThermalTake (same maker as the BlacX Dock) on my HR44-700 and it took right off. When I initially tried a 3 TB, it wouldn't work (wasn't initialized). The more I thought about it, the more I realized I had no need for 3 TB as 2 TB was plenty and the more you record, the more you will lose if you are archiving instead of watching to catch up. 

 

Heck, I had to force myself to choose the 3T WD purple instead of the 4T, LOL! We're bad about recording an entire season of a series and not watching it until later, and we record a lot of old movies, specials, etc.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:29 PM

Heck, I had to force myself to choose the 3T WD purple instead of the 4T, LOL! We're bad about recording an entire season of a series and not watching it until later, and we record a lot of old movies, specials, etc.

 

That's certainly fine, I do some of the same, just understand that when that drive goes bad, whatever is on it is gone forever except any OTA recordings you may have done using the AM21 OTA Tuner Add-On...those can be watched across machines (or at least at one time they could, because they do not originate from DirecTV satellite service at all,  but rather your local OTA broadcast staton

 

One thing to consider, if you think a drive is going bad, you can buy a hard drive cloner (I have one). It lets you drop a source drive into its dock, and you put a new drive into the target slot of the dock and it makes a perfect bit by bit copy of the original failing drive (assuming the failing drive still works). I did this with a five year old eSATA drive and the new cloned copy works perfectly and all my existing recordings were preserved in the bit by bit copy on the new drive.

 

If it is the receiver box itself that fails, then you are SOL. Catch a drive failure early and you can preserve everything, but if the box itself goes south, it's bye bye recordings.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:33 PM

Heck, I had to force myself to choose the 3T WD purple instead of the 4T, LOL! We're bad about recording an entire season of a series and not watching it until later, and we record a lot of old movies, specials, etc.

 

There's nothing bad about recording a whole season before watching it.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 02:27 PM

OK just got my install, good guy. HR44 and two minis. So - how do I know if my 3T WD Purple is being recognized/used? I recorded a minute of something on the internal, deleted it, turned off the Genie, then connected my WD 3T Purple eSATA turned it on, turned the Genie back on. Didn't see anything, did a reset of the Genie. It reset, came up. but I have no idea if it is seeing/using the eSATA drive - can't find a place where it shows free HD space.



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 02:31 PM

OK just got my install, good guy. HR44 and two minis. So - how do I know if my 3T WD Purple is being recognized/used? I recorded a minute of something on the internal, deleted it, turned off the Genie, then connected my WD 3T Purple eSATA turned it on, turned the Genie back on. Didn't see anything, did a reset of the Genie. It reset, came up. but I have no idea if it is seeing/using the eSATA drive - can't find a place where it shows free HD space.


Record something on the internal drive and leave it there. If you don't see that recording with the external connected then you're good.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 02:51 PM

OK, when some people talk about the need to initialize the 3T drive on the PC first - because it does not seem to be formatting the drive when I connect it to the HR-44 (I did the Menu Restart, pull the plug when the 44 front panel went dark, turned on the eSATA drive and plugged it into the 44, then plugged in the 44 to the power again - got the full reset messages, including finding sat, etc. but then no message on the external drive.) Anyway - I plugged the eSATA drive into my PC - do I need to format it on the PC first?



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 03:18 PM

ADDENDUM: OK, I initilized the drive on my PC (figured it out) but there were two options on initializing. Since the drive is 3 T, when I used the MBR option for initializing, I got two partitions (since MBR won't create a partition larger than about 2.2T)

 

I once again hooked everything up, unplugged the Genie 44, plugged in the eSATA drive/enclosure (WD 3 T Purple) and this time when I plugged the Genie in I got a VERY brief message that said Initializing External Storage or something similar. It we very quick - less than 5 seconds - I expected it to take 20 seconds or more. Huh.

 

Anyway, looked at the playlist and there was nothing recorded, so since I didn't see the items I recorded on the internal drive I assume it is using the eSATA drive.

 

One more question, though: Since the MBR initialize creates two partitions for the 3T drive, how can I know if the Genie sees all 3 T of the HDD?



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Posted 29 August 2014 - 04:20 PM

Does anyone have a rough estimate of how much a 1 hour HD show (such as a network show, not a 1080i movie) takes up in terms of space on the HDD? Want to do a rough estimate to see if the HR44 is seeing all 3 T of my external drive,

 

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Posted 29 August 2014 - 06:49 PM

 

 

One more question, though: Since the MBR initialize creates two partitions for the 3T drive, how can I know if the Genie sees all 3 T of the HDD?

 

Faith...  Seriously though, the unit formatted it to use the entire space.  It killed your disk label, partition, etc.


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 06:50 PM

Does anyone have a rough estimate of how much a 1 hour HD show (such as a network show, not a 1080i movie) takes up in terms of space on the HDD? Want to do a rough estimate to see if the HR44 is seeing all 3 T of my external drive,

 

Thanks,

 

If you have to know for sure the only way is to power everything down and hook it back up to your PC.  You'll either see 1 big partition or you won't.


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 07:12 PM

Faith...  Seriously though, the unit formatted it to use the entire space.  It killed your disk label, partition, etc.

 

OK, cool. I was worried since the PC initialization created two partitions that it would only see and use one of them.

 

Amazing how fast the initialization occurred on the Genie - I expected at least 1 minute of "preparing external drive" or whatever it says, but if I hadn't been watching. I would have missed the formatting message.



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Posted 30 August 2014 - 10:57 AM

OK, cool. I was worried since the PC initialization created two partitions that it would only see and use one of them.

 

Amazing how fast the initialization occurred on the Genie - I expected at least 1 minute of "preparing external drive" or whatever it says, but if I hadn't been watching. I would have missed the formatting message.

 

Linux partitions and formats faster than Winslows...  :)


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Posted 30 August 2014 - 11:17 AM

Linux partitions and formats faster than Winslows...   :)

 

So it seems! Never seen 3T get formatted in 10 seconds or less before! ;) Obviously it did since it is using the drive (I recorded something on the internal drive first, to make sure it didn't show in the playlist after I installed the external drive.)



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Posted 30 August 2014 - 11:25 AM

the message related to internal NAND storage, not HDD

 

but , really all your postings doesn't belong to the topic

"eSATA - DIRECTV recommended list"

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 11:32 AM

But it was all good info and that's what everyone can use.  

 

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 12:58 PM

But it should be in his own thread. With correct name and direction.

 

Adding to that, we have dedicated threads to HR44 and its quirks of formatting or not an external eSATA HDD.



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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:21 PM

But it should be in his own thread. With correct name and direction.

 

Adding to that, we have dedicated threads to HR44 and its quirks of formatting or not an external eSATA HDD.

 

Thank you Mr. Forum Police. ;)



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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:37 AM

Thank you Mr. Forum Police. ;)

 

He has a good point, I think I have a good point.  We are what we are, we're not gonna change.  I wouldn't search for an answer, I'd ask the question on the open forum or by PM.  Mr. Smith disagrees.  Life goes on.  

 

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 11:00 AM

Thank you Mr. Forum Police. ;)

You are welcome, Mr. Forum Don'tCare :D






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