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#2326 OFFLINE   P Smith

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:44 PM

OK. I'm agree: it is XFS file system with partition type 83. Going back to my posts and correct.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:53 AM

Only one survived, I keep it on a shelf to future research of creating good method of copy particular shows, not whole partition ...


How did that work out?

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 09:37 AM

How did that work out?


Mothballed for future research. Other challenges taking my free times.

As to that last physical drive, it's gone too, nothing left from Rich's batch. But I made a copy of its content to new HDD before 'last kiss goodbye'.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:21 PM

Found this article:

http://hdguru.com/di...ve-review/8056/

So thinking of picking up the WD drive cited there but with this enclosure, because its USB 3 instead of the USB 2 in the model they used:

http://www.amazon.co...rosewill rx-358

Any experiences with these models?

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:43 PM

Found this article:

http://hdguru.com/di...ve-review/8056/

So thinking of picking up the WD drive cited there but with this enclosure, because its USB 3 instead of the USB 2 in the model they used:

http://www.amazon.co...rosewill rx-358

Any experiences with these models?


They are jussst bunch of liars: "With no guide found anywhere on the Internet as to which make and model drive works with the THR22" when wrote it.
Here, at the site, we have a lot of info about external drives for HR22 or it's 'brother' THR22.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:03 PM

Found this article:

http://hdguru.com/di...ve-review/8056/

So thinking of picking up the WD drive cited there but with this enclosure, because its USB 3 instead of the USB 2 in the model they used:

http://www.amazon.co...rosewill rx-358

Any experiences with these models?


The DirecTV boxes (including the TiVo one) only work with esata so anything to do with USB is meaningless, unless your thinking if usin it with something other than a receiver someday after you retire the DirecTV box.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:23 PM

That's my thinking, flexibility to use the enclosure for other uses. Main concern is that I tried an eSata enclosure with probably a slow drive and it stuttered badly on HR20.

I may not stay with D* or else I would look for an upgrade to a newer box.

Just wondering if a newer enclosure with USB 3 is going to have probs being fast enough.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:26 PM

That's my thinking, flexibility to use the enclosure for other uses. Main concern is that I tried an eSata enclosure with probably a slow drive and it stuttered badly on HR20.

I may not stay with D* or else I would look for an upgrade to a newer box.

Just wondering if a newer enclosure with USB 3 is going to have probs being fast enough.


Usb2.0 is plenty fast enough no to mention data is too and the only use 1.5. Your issue was likely drive type previously. The drive the article mentions is excellent as I use several of them.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:00 AM

I've been reading this thread. It has been extremely helpful! :) Time to expand to an external HD for my HR22-100 box. I have had a Fantom 1TB for ages on my regular computer, so I figured THIS Phantom 2TB might work. Can anybody tell me if it will? It is the GDP2000EU.
ETA: It has the eSATA, and USB 2 ports.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:20 AM

Fantom makes/models have never been well received here....I highly suggest you go with one of the recommended Westerndigitals and either the Antec MX-1 or Thermaltake BlacX

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:58 AM

Fantom makes/models have never been well received here....I highly suggest you go with one of the recommended Westerndigitals and either the Antec MX-1 or Thermaltake BlacX

Great. Thank you CC. That is a big help. It seems like DTV and everybody is so consumed with copy-guard, and copy-write that they make it really difficult in a case like this.

I do commend DTV though for offering the eSATA input. I wish they would include rudimentary editing software for their units also. My NORMAL setup is Win Mediacenter and I use video redo to take out commercials. (Only good for over the air of course) I can save hundreds of commercial free shows on any drive that I want.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:52 AM

Great. Thank you CC. That is a big help. It seems like DTV and everybody is so consumed with copy-guard, and copy-write that they make it really difficult in a case like this.

I do commend DTV though for offering the eSATA input. I wish they would include rudimentary editing software for their units also. My NORMAL setup is Win Mediacenter and I use video redo to take out commercials. (Only good for over the air of course) I can save hundreds of commercial free shows on any drive that I want.

Why you not bought Hauppage card with component input and do same for any show what your Hx or HRxx can play ?

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:57 AM

Anyone try anything like this?

http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B003EMJ34U

USB 3 drives seem more common than eSata so if these adapters may be one solution.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:01 PM

Anyone try anything like this?

http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B003EMJ34U

USB 3 drives seem more common than eSata so if these adapters may be one solution.


Better to stick with what we know works. Follow CCarncross' advice and you'll be happy.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:09 PM

Anyone try anything like this?

http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B003EMJ34U

USB 3 drives seem more common than eSata so if these adapters may be one solution.


If you're just looking at buying some off the shelf crap, yes, most you see are USB2/3 drives. Remember that this is for your DVR, it spins pretty much 24/7, are you really thinking that just adding some portable usb drive is the way to go? you really need to consider one of these a permanent piece of your dvr until you cancel the service.....

For example, pick your drive:

http://www.newegg.co...nal-Hard-Drives

Pick your enclosure:

http://www.newegg.co...rnal-Enclosures

A few of the off the shelf plug and pray solutions were popular, but most of those have been taken out of service, like the Calvary FAP, and EXtremes...you can't go wrong with what was recommended above.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:53 PM

If you're just looking at buying some off the shelf crap, yes, most you see are USB2/3 drives. Remember that this is for your DVR, it spins pretty much 24/7, are you really thinking that just adding some portable usb drive is the way to go? you really need to consider one of these a permanent piece of your dvr until you cancel the service....


I strongly agree with this. My first DVR upgrade drive was a "plain vanilla" 750GB Seagate...it failed after about 10 months (it's warranty replacement has been attached to my laptop for the last 3 years). Since then I have only used "AV" drives (designed for DVR use) and just had my first failure of such a drive, and that was caused by it being knocked off a shelf while operating, not by wear and tear.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:51 PM

Thank you for all of your answers! :)
I think the problem we have is that it is not any normal type of computer, and the interface or the box itself will be very finicky. In my HT computer, (Win media Center 64/32) I have lost count of the TB I’m using. I have an Asus P6T Deluxe Ver 2 Mobo which has 6 built in Sata outlets. I now have 3 other drives that are full, and not even hooked up. I have the left cover off of the comp, and I just run the regular Sata wires out of the side. I was using older WD 5,400 rpm drives, then I got spoiled when I bought a Hitachi 2 TB 7,200. NOW when needed, I am buying the Seagate Barracuda 3000 drives. - Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 - (For media center recording) They have 7,200 RPM, 3 TB, and are very fast for moving, say, 10 recorded TV shows around. My SS drive clocks in at about 200 MBS, and the Seagates clock in at about 160 MBS for actual file moving (at first.) One reason is that with the 3TB, they are only using THREE platters – just under a TB per platter. With the other drives, rarely, I would get a video stutter, which was playback only, while recording 3-4 shows and watching one. – Very demanding. With the Seagate, I NEVER get that anymore.

I’ll see if the 2TB versions are on the list. I hope my running on a bit will help people select drives for other things. For editing, I’m using VideReDo. It has a HUGE window to analyze what you are working on. It’s too bad that the DTV boxes do not have basic editing. So, as an example I have the entire Series of Criminal minds, now commercial free, and beautiful HD. The 1st 6 seasons, edited, take up 403 GB.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:46 PM

I have recorded a few football games that I recorded to a 1TB WD drive that I attach to my HR34 and I would like to watch them on my PC. Are you guys saying that I can do this?:confused: I thought you have to re-attach the drive to the same DVR to watch these recordings which is a pain.:rolleyes:

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:27 AM

I have recorded a few football games that I recorded to a 1TB WD drive that I attach to my HR34 and I would like to watch them on my PC. Are you guys saying that I can do this?:confused: I thought you have to re-attach the drive to the same DVR to watch these recordings which is a pain.:rolleyes:


You can only watch the recordings on the DVR that recorded them. The only option you'd have to watch them on a PC is to buy a capture card/device and capture them on your PC.
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:03 AM

I thought you have to re-attach the drive to the same DVR to watch these recordings which is a pain.:rolleyes:

This is precisely how it works.

The disc format used is not widely supported on Windows or Mac computers and the content is encrypted.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:31 AM

I highly suggest you go with one of the recommended Westerndigitals and either the Antec MX-1 or Thermaltake BlacX



Just got two brand new HR-24s and used the recommended 2TB WD and Thermaltake dock setup on both DVRs and cant be happier.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 11:15 PM

I have had great luck with Seagate 1 TB and 2 TB drives. In my (limited) experience, it appears the Thermaltake BlacX is the key. Whatever interface it presents, the HR21 and HR34 both seem instantly happy with it.

The data is not encrypted. Run the Ubuntu OS (run from a disk, you don't need to touch your current Windows OS). Use the Thermaltake USB interface then, to attach the eSATA drive to your computer. Running Ubuntu or any Linux variation, you'll be able to read the files on the HDD just fine.

Edit Clarification: you will be able to read a range of various files on the DVR eSATA drive. But you will not be able to watch the recordings that are there. All the posts that say you can only 'play' the recordings on the specific DVR that recorded them - those posts are absolutely correct.

Edited by gct, 11 October 2012 - 11:27 PM.



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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:10 AM

The data is not encrypted.

Edit Clarification: you will be able to read a range of various files on the DVR eSATA drive. But you will not be able to watch the recordings that are there. All the posts that say you can only 'play' the recordings on the specific DVR that recorded them - those posts are absolutely correct.

This is because the data is, in fact, encrypted.
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:08 AM

This is because the data is, in fact, encrypted.

That's because you deliberately don't make distinguish between other files and recording [video/audio] files.

A fact is you never seen the file system and never did mount/navigate a DTV DVR's drive in Ubuntu, etc.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:52 AM

I have had great luck with Seagate 1 TB and 2 TB drives. In my (limited) experience, it appears the Thermaltake BlacX is the key. Whatever interface it presents, the HR21 and HR34 both seem instantly happy with it.

The data is not encrypted. Run the Ubuntu OS (run from a disk, you don't need to touch your current Windows OS). Use the Thermaltake USB interface then, to attach the eSATA drive to your computer. Running Ubuntu or any Linux variation, you'll be able to read the files on the HDD just fine.

Edit Clarification: you will be able to read a range of various files on the DVR eSATA drive. But you will not be able to watch the recordings that are there. All the posts that say you can only 'play' the recordings on the specific DVR that recorded them - those posts are absolutely correct.


tomato, tomaato....The data on the disk is pretty useless without the dvr that recorded it, the actual specifics are pretty much equally as useless. If the DVR dies, you might as well go ahead and smash the drive, because you ain't gonna watch those shows no mo'. Of course, you can re-use the drive on your new dvr....

Why do you knuckleheads(not you gct) have to argue about every stupid little thing? P Smith, for the extent of this discussion, what I've bolded above is really all that matters

Edited by CCarncross, 12 October 2012 - 10:58 AM.





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