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E* to D* converts - PQ comparison on 50+ screen?


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#1 OFFLINE   GreyGhost00

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Posted 17 August 2003 - 09:13 AM

I'm looking at pulling the trigger to change to D* after 6 years with E*. I can't get past the fact that from the setups I've seen, the D* SD PQ on large screen sets appears to be worse than E*. For folks who have done the switch lately and have large screen setups, what have your opinions been? It would be helpful if you listed when you switched.
While I'm thinking of switching for HD content, I will still be watching plenty of SD material.

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#2 OFFLINE   ride525

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Posted 17 August 2003 - 06:40 PM

I'm looking at pulling the trigger to change to D* after 6 years with E*. I can't get past the fact that from the setups I've seen, the D* SD PQ on large screen sets appears to be worse than E*. For folks who have done the switch lately and have large screen setups, what have your opinions been? It would be helpful if you listed when you switched.
While I'm thinking of switching for HD content, I will still be watching plenty of SD material.


I have exactly the same question...am thinking of switching...although may wait 3 more weeks for September 8 Charlie Chat on High Definition.

I asked similar question here....am interested in any comments.
http://www.avsforum....threadid=291487

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Posted 17 August 2003 - 06:58 PM

I switched in July from E* to D* on my 55" Hitachi the picture definitely is not worse I think it is a little better but that is subjective.

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 09:17 AM

I just switched last week. I have a 50" Toshiba and IMHO the PQ looks the same.

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 03:49 PM

I switched at least 2 years ago (perhaps a little longer), and for me the PQ on D* was better in that I felt it was a sharper picture. (This on a 60" Hitachi.) While I still had both, watching anything on E* for any length of time made me feel like I needed eyeglasses, since at the time they were running a "soft" picture. Obviously things have changed quite a bit over that period of time.

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 06:38 PM

I have Dish and Directv on a 50 inch analog Mitsibishi tv. Here is what I noticed:

On Dish on one of the s-video inputs, I have the brightness and contrast about in the middle , no sharpness and the color turned down. Dish is more colorful to me than Directv. The backgrounds of the picture have some artifacting while they show a solid colored wall unless you turn the contrast down.

On Directv on the other s-video input , I have the brightness and contrast turned up a bit more and no sharpness and the color turned up to about middle because the picture is washed out compared to Dish unless I turn the color way up . I notice sharper closeups of faces but the backgrounds have more artifacting than Dish even when they don't show solid backgrounds.

Over all I perfer Dish's picture for over all consistency and quality to Directv's. Of course picture quality is subjective. :)

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Posted 19 August 2003 - 06:32 AM

I switched this past Friday. I have mostly been watching my local channels (NY) and Fox Sports NY (I'm a die hard Mets fan. I know, I know...). On a 57" Toshiba RPTV using an HDVR2 direct to the TV through S-video I'm noticing more digital compression artifacts. On HDTV receiver I'm seeing the same thing, more artifacts. Also, the colors don't seem as vibrant as E*. Overall, it's not too bad. But after three days I think E*'s picture is better.

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Posted 19 August 2003 - 12:19 PM

FYI-D* PQ SHOULD improve after the launch of their new satellite by the end of the year. This will allow them to move more locals to spotbeams and loosen up on the overcompression.
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Posted 19 August 2003 - 03:01 PM

I hope it does. Channel 639 Fox Sports Net Chicago's picture during Cubs games and White Sox games aren't as clear and as pretty as other Fox Sports Net Channels. I've noticed this for quite a while now.

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Posted 19 August 2003 - 03:23 PM

So what is better for a hook up component or s-video Im getting ready to hook up a 48" mitisubishi when it gets back from the shop I guess I can experiment for my self just wondering what all your opinions are

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 09:42 AM

FYI-D* PQ SHOULD improve after the launch of their new satellite by the end of the year. This will allow them to move more locals to spotbeams and loosen up on the overcompression.


Don't hold your breath. For both E* and D*, they tend to add more channels than improve PQ.
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#12 OFFLINE   GreyGhost00

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 10:52 AM

Don't hold your breath. For both E* and D*, they tend to add more channels than improve PQ.

That's fine as long as they are HD channels

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 12:05 PM

HD 480p or 1080i? Makes a big diff. Bandwidth vs. volume of channels: channels always win.
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Posted 21 August 2003 - 01:04 PM

HD 480p or 1080i? Makes a big diff. Bandwidth vs. volume of channels: channels always win.

480p isn't HD.
Great - I need the "thumb twiddling" channel.




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