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Torchwood: Children of Earth (Miniseries Spoilers)


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#51 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 03:27 PM

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 06:00 PM

I finished watching this in HD last night (thank you Blu-ray!) and really enjoyed it. I was a little disappointed the BD did not include the five 15-minute "Inside Look" specials that BBCA aired. It had Torchwood Declassified but there was information in the Inside Look (such as discussion of the future of the Torchwood series) that was not in Declassified.

I noted a few inconsistencies that momentarily took me out of the story (Johnson's team could immediately trace phone calls made by Alice, Ianto and Gwen, but could not immediately trace Jack's phone call; People on the ground floor of the MI5 building died before Ianto and Jack at the source and before Dekker did; that the time it took for Jack to resurrect varied for no apparent reason: gunshot = 2 minutes; concrete suffocation = 30 seconds; virus = several hours apparently) but I still really, really enjoyed it.

It's a shame Ianto is not coming back - it would have been so much fun to see a continuation of the "are we a couple or not" plot - but as Davies said a significant death was needed to convey properly that this was a tragedy all the way around. I'll miss Ianto, but the story was better for his passing.

Now I'm just hoping the BBC wants to make another series ...


I agree with you as well about how the series went. Which phone call from Jack are you referring? I don't think they immediately traced Ianto's and Gwen's calls either, although it was fairly quick.

As for Ianto taking so long to die, I looked at it that the virus was released into the ventilation system in some way and not in the room where the 456 was. Remember the case the 456 was in was supposedly completely sealed off.

In regards to Jack's ressurection, I looked at it that his ressurection time depended on how long his body needed to repair the damage. With regards to the virus, his body would have needed to clean the virus out of every part of his body that it had seeped into so it would take quite a bit longer than when he got shot or if he was suffocated.

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 07:06 PM

The crawling message on the bottom of the screen in Day 2 was annoying, irritating and very distracting. Whoever decided to do that during the premire event should be shot! By now, almost everyone knows that BBCA HD is available. I don;t need a crawling message telling me to contact my cable provider as a reminder. It was on several times in that hour. Is more than once really necessary?


That and the animated ads on the bottom of the screen convinced me that I don't care if we get BBC America in HD or not. I'm not going to watch the channel any more. Fortunately, it looks like Doctor Who and Torchwood come to DVD shortly after being shown on BBC America.

I thought the Torchwood mini-series was very good, but I liked the lighter, hour-long stand-alone episodes better.

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 07:20 AM

I don't know if it "really" matters, but when they traced Ianto's call, he called a landline. I doubt that would really help, but that may be their "workaround" in the writers room...
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Posted 10 August 2009 - 07:10 PM

BBC America is bragging that they had 3.3 million viewers for TW: COE. They get that number by adding together all the viewers for each day as though everybody watched one day only.
They also bragged that they had more viewers than MSNBC, Animal Planet, Bravo, BET, Travel, Oxygen, Hallmark, TV Land, Soap, MTV, E!, WE, or Headline News.:lol:

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 06:42 PM

I just watched it.
In the shortest possible review let me say this was the best written Scifi story (on TV) that I have ever watched! It was so real that it kept me glued to the set for every minute of it!
No Black, No White it was the all the grey colors that surround every real life event.
Bravo for Torchwood.

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 06:59 PM

I have been in a few hairy situations in third world countries and I have seen first hand what people will do to survive. I would say to people, dont believe for a second that you and I are any better than these people and what I have learned from all of this is that people can rationalize anything when their lives or childrens lives are on the line. People will hand over one child to a group of soldiers to save another.
Its very easy to talk about what we would do or how we think people would behave and thats because luckily most of us will never be faced with making this decision nor do we know anybody who has been faced with the decision.

In WWII i have heard that some Jewish families faced this same situation, they could smuggle out only one or two family members and had to decide who would live and who would die.


That is the way we view it. But from a logical standpoint a 456 might not understand why we just wouldn't give them the kids that would die anyway. Or give them "some kids" and thereby free up resources to save the rest, or buy more iPhones, the 456 don't care. It's all about choices as a species, not as artificially created, and biologically irrelevant, nations. Initially the number was just 10% of the world's children. When we balked, they put it into the logical form we understand - 10% from each nation. One thing that surprised me, and it may have been a time constraint, is that the show didn't explore the "what if" of one nation refusing.
Historically, most of what humans have feared and hated as a species is "the other" of our own species. It seems we instinctively divide along family, class, tribal and national lines thinking we are protecting "our own". In this show, it was clearly family and class that mattered more than mankind as a whole.

Enter the tragically flawed hero who acting against instinct saves all mankind, but at great sacrifice to himself - the sacrifice of his family line.

Of course, we have to suspend disbelief. It is television and it is science fiction, after all. But most of the world's tragic myths require the same. And unless the show's producers have advanced knowledge that they'll have 300 hours in which to tell the story, most things just go unexplored.






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