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#126 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 03:52 PM

Oh wow, that is a deal breaker. No wonder they stopped replying to the Shadows emails. They certainly did not want to get cornered on that detail.
Thanks for the heads up, I just saved 250 clams.


That and all the other things I've run into really make me wish I waited. I feel like an idiot now... Oh well, I'll be stopping at Best Buy tomorrow night to return it.
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#127 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 03:54 PM

It does go a little distance toward explaining why they didn't want a pre-release review.


It certainly does. I'd actually go as far as using the word "deceptive" when describing the hype surrounding this remote.
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#128 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 03:55 PM

Well, if I contributed at all to that undeserved hype, please accept this heartfelt apology.
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 03:55 PM

It certainly does. I'd actually go as far as using the word "deceptive" when describing the hype surrounding this remote.


Well... a lot of the hype was really our hope. :)

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 03:58 PM

Well, if I contributed at all to that undeserved hype, please accept this heartfelt apology.


Oh no way Stuart, I'm not blaming you at all. You just passed on what you were told. It's their documentation and promotion that I'd call deceptive. Heck, the pdf they have you bring up for "documentation" that comes with the unit doesn't even mention DirecTV RF, it stops at page 20. Another thing about that which I find strange is that the manual itself isn't on the Disc that comes with the remote. The pdf on the disc has links where you click either on the box labeled Xsight Touch or Xsight Color and you're taken to their site for the pdf. That pdf is nothing like the one Tom posted in the thread.
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 03:59 PM

Well... a lot of the hype was really our hope. :)


True, I still feel like I have the word "sucker" written on my forehead right now though.
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 04:07 PM

That and all the other things I've run into really make me wish I waited. I feel like an idiot now... Oh well, I'll be stopping at Best Buy tomorrow night to return it.


The only reason I don't have one today is because I did not want to get out in the rain on the way home.

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 04:13 PM

Even if you remove and re-add the other DirecTV receivers in your setup once you have DirecTV RF on you can only control one receiver period.

Oh, and even the simplest of things doesn't work on this remote. I just noticed the clock isn't even keeping time right. I set it when I got home today, around 1:30pm, and the clock on the remote now says it is 4:55 when it is 6:13. sheesh!
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 04:15 PM

OK, that is a big difference. My Harmony 880 loses about 1 minute every 5 days but never anything that extreme.
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 04:21 PM

The only reason I don't have one today is because I did not want to get out in the rain on the way home.


Heh, the only reason mine isn't going back right now is because it's pouring down rain here. :lol:
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 04:22 PM

OK, that is a big difference. My Harmony 880 loses about 1 minute every 5 days but never anything that extreme.


Yeah, I'm considering going back to my 880. I had been using a Harmony Xbox 360 remote since it had the colored buttons. What I think I'll do is break out the 880 mainly for switching between activities and use my Buccaneers remote to control the receivers in RF.
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 06:30 PM

I sold my PS3 recently and have an IR2BT controller that I was getting ready to sell on Ebay. If you're interested send me a PM.


If I'm not mistaken this is a Harmony device?

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 08:27 PM

Since I could care less about RF and would get the 15/color model instead anyway I'd guess this RF limitation doesn't effect me at all. I can still control multiple DirecTV receivers via IR just fine I'd guess.

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 08:37 PM

Something else... Unless I'm missing something if you add a device using the remote it is NOT seen in the ez-rc software even after a "sync".

I'm posting about the more important things as I come across them. I'll have other notes later.

EDIT: Ok, there is a trick to this. You have to logout of the software if you're in for the first time. Then when you login again you're given the option to upload settings from the remote. HOWEVER doing so deletes what you've already setup in the software. So if you've already setup devices using the remote before you installed the software and created an account you have to logout and log back in to upload the info from the remote to the software. crazy...

Thanks for the "blogging" as you set this up. This sounds very crazy indeed.

My Touch arrives tomorrow but I'll be sure to do all setup via the web site to avoid some of these problems, but I don't have high hopes for this remote now...

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 08:38 PM

FYI for those with Best Buy rewards zone I just got mine in the mail today and 12% off this weekend into next week. So if you're a BBWZ member might want to hold off until you get that coupon and go get it this weekend.

I'm not sure if all RZ members are on the same
schedule - I got my 12% coupons a few weeks ago.

Be sure to check the back to make sure AR remotes are not excluded, along with Bose and BDI furniture!

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 08:41 PM

Even if you remove and re-add the other DirecTV receivers in your setup once you have DirecTV RF on you can only control one receiver period.

Did you experiment with multiple IR code sets? Wondering if that's more successful than RF. (Although this was probably covered already, wasn't it? My memory has been fuzzy the last couple of days.)

Oh, and even the simplest of things doesn't work on this remote. I just noticed the clock isn't even keeping time right. I set it when I got home today, around 1:30pm, and the clock on the remote now says it is 4:55 when it is 6:13. sheesh!

So that's 1 hour and 18 minutes. I'm wondering if you know how long you had the device plugged in to your laptop - was it approximately that long? Just a stab in the dark, thinking maybe it stops the clock when it's connected, but you'd think that an update to the remote via the USB cable would include synchronizing or updating the time! :nono:

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 09:09 PM

Wow after all this, now I'm not so sure. I wonder if they know this about the RF mode, and maybe they'll work on a software/firmware upgrade?

Well I guess this gives Harmony the opportunity to step up to the plate now and create an RF remote that controls more then one HR. ;)

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 09:10 PM

If I'm not mistaken this is a Harmony device?

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No, the original IR2BT came about about 18 months ago.

HERE'S a youtube video of it being set up. It's pretty simple and slick. It originally sold for about $70, but they don't make this IR2BT anymore, they started making a pro model that sells for $150 instead (ir2bt.com)

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:16 AM

Since I could care less about RF and would get the 15/color model instead anyway I'd guess this RF limitation doesn't effect me at all. I can still control multiple DirecTV receivers via IR just fine I'd guess.


I wasn't able to do that either. It appears to be one DirecTV receiver period.

I even tried having the remote learn the alternate codebases for 0002 and 0003. It accepted them but it wouldn't really let you add the units to an activity because when you went to setup your activity it didn't allow you to set the power state of the units and it defaulted them to "off". If a unit is set as "off" in that part of the setup of an activity it is not included in the rest of the activity setup.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:23 AM

Did you experiment with multiple IR code sets? Wondering if that's more successful than RF. (Although this was probably covered already, wasn't it? My memory has been fuzzy the last couple of days.)

So that's 1 hour and 18 minutes. I'm wondering if you know how long you had the device plugged in to your laptop - was it approximately that long? Just a stab in the dark, thinking maybe it stops the clock when it's connected, but you'd think that an update to the remote via the USB cable would include synchronizing or updating the time! :nono:


Yeah, I messed with multiple IR and that didn't seem to work either. Seems like it's on DirecTV receiver only regardless of IR or RF.

A little bit about the setup:

In order to "learn" you new codes you must first set it up using one of the devices listed in the database. You then have to let it fail, which means disconnecting and running the verification test that the remote forces on you, and then when you hook it back up it knows the code failed. At that point you can select to learn from the units existing remote. You then go thru a button by button process to setup the new codebase, and of course then you have to test it [I really hated the forced tests unit by unit activity by activity instead of waiting until the end]. Then when you go thru the activity setup. The first step is to choose the power state of each device you have setup. The 2 DVR's I setup [0002 and 0003 codebases] didn't allow me to change the power state at all. Since I could not change the power state when I got to the next step the devices were excluded from the activity.

As far as the clock question... There is no way I had it hooked up that long the way they force tests on you. It's crazy... Add a device, you must test it. Add another device you must test that... Add an activity, you must test it, and so forth.

The unit does charge when plugged in via usb so I wouldn't think the clock would stop.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:25 AM

Wow after all this, now I'm not so sure. I wonder if they know this about the RF mode, and maybe they'll work on a software/firmware upgrade?


I emailed them about it [I'm not one to sit on the phone all day] and the auto response said to allow 72 hours for a response. No way I'm sitting on this purchase 72 hours waiting for an answer, it's going back on my way to work this morning. I will post what they reply with if/when they reply though.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:30 AM

Wow after all this, now I'm not so sure. I wonder if they know this about the RF mode, and maybe they'll work on a software/firmware upgrade?

Well I guess this gives Harmony the opportunity to step up to the plate now and create an RF remote that controls more then one HR. ;)


this was a big blow (controlling only one DVR) that effectively eliminates this remote from contention...I just hope it puts downward price pressure on the new Harmony at this point...
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:31 AM

I know I'm a novice compared to most of you. However, I'm having difficulty understanding why would you need this device to operate more than one D* receiver? My remote stays in my home theater room.

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:34 AM

I know I'm a novice compared to most of you. However, I'm having difficulty understanding why would you need this device to operate more than one D* receiver? My remote stays in my home theater room.


I have an HR21-700, HR21-100 and H21-100 all in my living room. Thus the need to control more than one DirecTV receiver. :)
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:36 AM

Well, I was at Best Buy last night and I saw the beast. I picked it up, shook my head sadly, and put it back down. :(
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