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#26 OFFLINE   dreadlk

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:07 PM

the critical factor is how well the "Stargate" old-timers handle creating new characters using the sub-plot mechanism without having someone become a twin of a character in a previous "Stargate."


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Posted 30 September 2009 - 06:28 AM

Pre-Stargate? As in Pre SG-1 & SGA? Uh, no.

I would have sworn I read that some time back. Guess I can't rely on my old worn out memory anymore. At least that was the first time I was wrong. Yesterday. :P

But I'm pretty sure it's pre-something :lol:
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 07:41 AM

Oh man, I would SO like to see a good production of "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress"..........


I'd like to see a production of "Starship Troopers" that is faithful to the book. Of course, that would require audiences to actually think instead of just enjoying the mayhem (and nudity) of the Veerhoven travesty...

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:43 PM

I would have sworn I read that some time back. Guess I can't rely on my old worn out memory anymore. At least that was the first time I was wrong. Yesterday. :P

But I'm pretty sure it's pre-something :lol:


You might have it confused with Caprica, which will be a Battlestar Galactica prequel.
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Posted 01 October 2009 - 01:34 PM

You might have it confused with Caprica, which will be a Battlestar Galactica prequel.

You're probably right. That's the sort of thing that drive's my 50 year old son top say "damn, it's fun being around old people." Of course I keep reminding my 18 and 20 year old grandsons to please remind him of that in about 20 years :lol:
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Posted 01 October 2009 - 01:42 PM

My only problem so far is when they made a comment that its going to involve a lot of personal romance stories that were missing from previous SG series:nono:


They were? (in reference to personal romance stories missing)

Heck you could argue that at least 50% of the last season of SG-Atlantis was all about the personal romance/relationship stories.

SG-1 also in the late seasons, there was a fair amount of it.

And to me, that helped make the shows more personable and enjoyable as it wasn't just about the adventure.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 02:08 PM

You're probably right. That's the sort of thing that drive's my 50 year old son top say "damn, it's fun being around old people." Of course I keep reminding my 18 and 20 year old grandsons to please remind him of that in about 20 years :lol:



I'm right there with you, OG. At 63, I only remember the simple things ... I think.:nono2:
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Posted 01 October 2009 - 02:13 PM

I'm a recent convert to the works of LDP - I hated La Bamba - and I'm looking forward to this show. I don't really care if it relates closely to its predecessors ... they stood on their own in spite of it.
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Posted 01 October 2009 - 03:24 PM

They were? (in reference to personal romance stories missing)

Heck you could argue that at least 50% of the last season of SG-Atlantis was all about the personal romance/relationship stories.

SG-1 also in the late seasons, there was a fair amount of it.

And to me, that helped make the shows more personable and enjoyable as it wasn't just about the adventure.



SG1 had almost no romance, just a little here and there for each character.

Romance in Atlantis :confused::confused:
You had Teyla get preggers, nothing even shown about romance on that one. Rodney messed around in the last few episode with the Doctor lady.
Am I missing something, I don't remember anything else happening.

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 06:27 PM

I've been a Stargate fan since 2003. So this one is for sure being recorded!

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 06:27 PM

SG1 had almost no romance, just a little here and there for each character.

Romance in Atlantis :confused::confused:
You had Teyla get preggers, nothing even shown about romance on that one. Rodney messed around in the last few episode with the Doctor lady.
Am I missing something, I don't remember anything else happening.


I like the tech to heck with romance. :lol:

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 09:13 PM

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 09:25 PM

Seems to be pretty good so far. The only thing I hate is it seems to start just like SGA. Go through a gate end up on and ancient ship (nothing but Atlantis with wings) ship not fully working, losing life support, power struggle of who is going to be in charge......sigh..... They should have just let this be an offshoot of SGA. I miss Teyla, Rodney, Shepard and Ronin.!!!!

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 12:13 AM

stargate VOYAGER came to mind while watching this pilot.

I'll tune in next week, but so far I'm on the fence with this new series.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 06:25 AM

I'm not sure what to think of this one. It seems like a completely different show and has the feel of Battlestar Galactica. Also, nothing drives me more batty than the "shaky camera" crap. I'm on the fence as well.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 06:45 AM

LOL, I feel ya on the Battlestar Galactica comparison. It just seems like the stole too many previously used ideas to make their own show.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 11:19 AM

I liked it quite a bit. It's like Stargate has grown up and graduated - the characters aren't cut-and-dry good-guys or bad-guys, they're much more real. Some of the story ideas may be recycled, but I thought the stories in the pilot were told well and it was compelling, so I'll be back.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 12:25 PM

I liked it quite a bit. It's like Stargate has grown up and graduated - the characters aren't cut-and-dry good-guys or bad-guys, they're much more real. Some of the story ideas may be recycled, but I thought the stories in the pilot were told well and it was compelling, so I'll be back.

I agree.

I'm always puzzled by complaints about story ideas. When you get to the basic core of a story and compare it, there haven't been any basic new story ideas since the Ancient Greeks. Once you read The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Twelve Labours of Hercules, and throw in a little Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War you might as well forget space adventure stories if you are going to reject them as being unoriginal.

The objective here is to create interesting new characters to put into a continuing story arc with ongoing relationships who face new challenges each week.

Much to my surprise, this new "Stargate" has managed to create new characters in a younger ensemble cast that have the promise of being interesting. They have smoothly introduced them using the Stargate series old farts like Richard Dean Anderson and company, but have headed them off into a new direction well beyond both the Pillars of Hercules and the Pegasus Galaxy.

Yes, if it was set much further into the future they might run into Jean-Luc Picard or Kathryn Janeway. But it's time frame is more or less today using ancient technology that's a bit rusty and falling apart.

Is it going to be among TV's greatest shows ever? Probably not. But it looks like it will be entertaining as the characters develop working through typical human challenges facing all intergalactic travelers. :)

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 01:03 PM

I'm always puzzled by complaints about story ideas. When you get to the basic core of a story and compare it, there haven't been any basic new story ideas since the Ancient Greeks. Once you read The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Twelve Labours of Hercules, and throw in a little Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War you might as well forget space adventure stories if you are going to reject them as being unoriginal.



Any critique that something is unoriginal is unoriginal! :lol: It is after all the easiest thing to notice about any story anywhere as long as you've lived at least 20 years or so! Another thing you've got to realize though is that there's a pretty good segment of sci-fi fans that just seem to revel in picking apart every little detail for better or worse every sci-fi show/movie/book that comes along. I also don't get it, it seems to take the fun out of it for me, but oh well if that's what does it for them, to each their own I suppose!


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Posted 03 October 2009 - 01:51 PM

I watched the first hour of the opener and I can tell you, I Like It!

Sure, they had some of the older cast there, but that's almost a required send-off for any sequel series.

The new characters are believable and know their craft. If it happens to be a rehash of a rehash story line, oh well. If you want real original, you should be in the Library of Congress and not in front of a TV.

Oh, phrelin, Janeway and Picard? Wouldn't that be one hell of a story line?!?
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Posted 03 October 2009 - 05:14 PM

I agree.

I'm always puzzled by complaints about story ideas. When you get to the basic core of a story and compare it, there haven't been any basic new story ideas since the Ancient Greeks. Once you read The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Twelve Labours of Hercules, and throw in a little Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War you might as well forget space adventure stories if you are going to reject them as being unoriginal.


I can imagine some overweight ancient Greek used scroll seller sitting there writing about The Odyssey "WORST STORY EVER! The lead character is unsympathetic! The perils are overdone and the ending is predictable!" :lol::lol::lol:
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Posted 03 October 2009 - 05:34 PM

From TV by the Numbers Syfy continues ratings roll: Stargate Universe averages 2.35 million in premiere:

OK, as a Stargate fan I must ask if there has even been a Stargate Franchise premiere in four years? (update these numbers beat season premieres of Stargate SG-1 Season 10, Stargate Atlantis Season 3, Stargate Atlantis Season 4, and Stargate Atlantis Season 5).

It edged out Dollhouse in viewers between 9pm-10pm (and calls that out!) and also details the numbers from 9p-11p. Via Syfy press release....

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 06:51 PM

I learned in my English lit class that there are only 7 plots in all of literature...or was it 9? SO to say it's just rehashed...EVERYTHING IS! How many stories/movies can you think of where the unknown child/person turns out to be the powerful hero?

All in all I liked it. Maybe, as stated, it's because it's another Stargate premiere series. I wonder how Lou Diamond Philips will get in on this... Maybe he'll be the one they talk to through the stones.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 08:22 PM

I liked it quite a bit. It's like Stargate has grown up and graduated - the characters aren't cut-and-dry good-guys or bad-guys, they're much more real. Some of the story ideas may be recycled, but I thought the stories in the pilot were told well and it was compelling, so I'll be back.


Feels a little like a Stargate / BSG combo
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 09:02 AM

Not to skew the discussion, but is it just me or has Richard Dean Anderson gotten really fat?




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