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#41 OFFLINE   Smthkd

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 06:45 AM

LOL, I feel ya on the Battlestar Galactica comparison. It just seems like the stole too many previously used ideas to make their own show.
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Posted 03 October 2009 - 11:19 AM

I liked it quite a bit. It's like Stargate has grown up and graduated - the characters aren't cut-and-dry good-guys or bad-guys, they're much more real. Some of the story ideas may be recycled, but I thought the stories in the pilot were told well and it was compelling, so I'll be back.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 12:25 PM

I liked it quite a bit. It's like Stargate has grown up and graduated - the characters aren't cut-and-dry good-guys or bad-guys, they're much more real. Some of the story ideas may be recycled, but I thought the stories in the pilot were told well and it was compelling, so I'll be back.

I agree.

I'm always puzzled by complaints about story ideas. When you get to the basic core of a story and compare it, there haven't been any basic new story ideas since the Ancient Greeks. Once you read The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Twelve Labours of Hercules, and throw in a little Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War you might as well forget space adventure stories if you are going to reject them as being unoriginal.

The objective here is to create interesting new characters to put into a continuing story arc with ongoing relationships who face new challenges each week.

Much to my surprise, this new "Stargate" has managed to create new characters in a younger ensemble cast that have the promise of being interesting. They have smoothly introduced them using the Stargate series old farts like Richard Dean Anderson and company, but have headed them off into a new direction well beyond both the Pillars of Hercules and the Pegasus Galaxy.

Yes, if it was set much further into the future they might run into Jean-Luc Picard or Kathryn Janeway. But it's time frame is more or less today using ancient technology that's a bit rusty and falling apart.

Is it going to be among TV's greatest shows ever? Probably not. But it looks like it will be entertaining as the characters develop working through typical human challenges facing all intergalactic travelers. :)

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 01:03 PM

I'm always puzzled by complaints about story ideas. When you get to the basic core of a story and compare it, there haven't been any basic new story ideas since the Ancient Greeks. Once you read The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Twelve Labours of Hercules, and throw in a little Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War you might as well forget space adventure stories if you are going to reject them as being unoriginal.



Any critique that something is unoriginal is unoriginal! :lol: It is after all the easiest thing to notice about any story anywhere as long as you've lived at least 20 years or so! Another thing you've got to realize though is that there's a pretty good segment of sci-fi fans that just seem to revel in picking apart every little detail for better or worse every sci-fi show/movie/book that comes along. I also don't get it, it seems to take the fun out of it for me, but oh well if that's what does it for them, to each their own I suppose!


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Posted 03 October 2009 - 01:51 PM

I watched the first hour of the opener and I can tell you, I Like It!

Sure, they had some of the older cast there, but that's almost a required send-off for any sequel series.

The new characters are believable and know their craft. If it happens to be a rehash of a rehash story line, oh well. If you want real original, you should be in the Library of Congress and not in front of a TV.

Oh, phrelin, Janeway and Picard? Wouldn't that be one hell of a story line?!?
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Posted 03 October 2009 - 05:14 PM

I agree.

I'm always puzzled by complaints about story ideas. When you get to the basic core of a story and compare it, there haven't been any basic new story ideas since the Ancient Greeks. Once you read The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Twelve Labours of Hercules, and throw in a little Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War you might as well forget space adventure stories if you are going to reject them as being unoriginal.


I can imagine some overweight ancient Greek used scroll seller sitting there writing about The Odyssey "WORST STORY EVER! The lead character is unsympathetic! The perils are overdone and the ending is predictable!" :lol::lol::lol:
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Posted 03 October 2009 - 05:34 PM

From TV by the Numbers Syfy continues ratings roll: Stargate Universe averages 2.35 million in premiere:

OK, as a Stargate fan I must ask if there has even been a Stargate Franchise premiere in four years? (update these numbers beat season premieres of Stargate SG-1 Season 10, Stargate Atlantis Season 3, Stargate Atlantis Season 4, and Stargate Atlantis Season 5).

It edged out Dollhouse in viewers between 9pm-10pm (and calls that out!) and also details the numbers from 9p-11p. Via Syfy press release....

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 06:51 PM

I learned in my English lit class that there are only 7 plots in all of literature...or was it 9? SO to say it's just rehashed...EVERYTHING IS! How many stories/movies can you think of where the unknown child/person turns out to be the powerful hero?

All in all I liked it. Maybe, as stated, it's because it's another Stargate premiere series. I wonder how Lou Diamond Philips will get in on this... Maybe he'll be the one they talk to through the stones.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 08:22 PM

I liked it quite a bit. It's like Stargate has grown up and graduated - the characters aren't cut-and-dry good-guys or bad-guys, they're much more real. Some of the story ideas may be recycled, but I thought the stories in the pilot were told well and it was compelling, so I'll be back.


Feels a little like a Stargate / BSG combo
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 09:02 AM

Not to skew the discussion, but is it just me or has Richard Dean Anderson gotten really fat?

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 09:26 AM

I liked it quite a bit. It's like Stargate has grown up and graduated - the characters aren't cut-and-dry good-guys or bad-guys, they're much more real. Some of the story ideas may be recycled, but I thought the stories in the pilot were told well and it was compelling, so I'll be back.


I totally agree. A a Stargate fan since SG-1 premiered on Showtime back in 1997, I'm very interested in this new series and can only hope that I will get to enjoy it for many years to come.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 10:25 AM

Not to skew the discussion, but is it just me or has Richard Dean Anderson gotten really fat?

Yeah - I noticed his face was a bit ... puffy. Retirement must be good to him. :)

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 11:02 AM

Watched the premiere on my DVR today, it better pick up or it won't make a second season.. I thought it sucked...

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 01:44 PM

Watched the premiere on my DVR today, it better pick up or it won't make a second season.. I thought it sucked...

What do you mean by "pick up" and "sucked?"

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 04:43 AM

What do you mean by "pick up" and "sucked?"


That it tended to be dark and depressing. I watched about 3/4 of it and went to bed. I got bored as did my wife. While with one episode the characters haven't yet been fully developed, I would have no problems with some of the major characters in the first episode being shown to the airlock (the Sergeant and the main scientist come to mind).

While I liked BSG, I'm not sure if a dark, depressing Sci-fi show will survive in today's economic times. We get enough depressing situations in the daily news. Will people want it in their entertainment?

I don't think so. But I've been wrong before.:)
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 07:39 AM

What do you mean by "pick up" and "sucked?"


Well they're stuck on a ship in another galaxy, the ship isn't full functioning but it "knows" what the peple onboard need and what planets to go to to go get it. Why not find people in need of a ship and just beam them up or better yet Replicators then you'd have a living ship (Farscape)? Looks like a real Yawner to me. Then again I didn't like Atlantis either or SG1 when they decided to bring in the pryors or whatever they were. Went down hill fast.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 07:41 AM

That it tended to be dark and depressing.


That isn't the problem for me, my whole life is dark and depressing (I like it that way).... No action, and the story line is, well, like Homer Simpson would say, "Booring"

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 08:08 AM

I liked the fact that the characters definitely seemed to have personalities.

I disliked the "Stargate Atlantis meets Star Dreck Voyager" aspect of it.

For the record, I'm a long-time Trek fan but Voyager was, IMO, an abomination.

I also disliked the "9th Chevron" retcon.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 08:20 AM

I also disliked the "9th Chevron" retcon.


Yeah I was thinking (I may have missed the explanation of what that was for) but if the first 8 are for where (8 refering to galaxies) why wouldn't 9 be "when" as in time travel?

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 08:34 AM

I liked it quite a bit. It's like Stargate has grown up and graduated - the characters aren't cut-and-dry good-guys or bad-guys, they're much more real. Some of the story ideas may be recycled, but I thought the stories in the pilot were told well and it was compelling, so I'll be back.


+1 .. I'm definitely in for this one and I almost watched it Live :eek:
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