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#101 OFFLINE   Henry

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 11:22 AM

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 05:48 PM

Many crime procedurals follow the same pattern in telling a story: crime is committed, crime is covered up, wrong person is accused, search for clues commences, shocking twist is revealed, guilty party is eventually discovered.

So what?

For me it's about how the story is told and whether the characters are compelling, or at least interesting.

I find SG-U fits the bill for me.


Drew you are one "The cup is half Full" type guy :D
Sorry but I want a lot more than that. Anything that's more of the same just turns me off. It's like the old Trek stories, they had about a Dozen scripts that they used in each and every series and these then get used in every other sci-fi show. Like the Ground Hog Day script, The imposter crew member script. the Trojan horse script, the list goes on and on.

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 08:02 PM

Drew you are one "The cup is half Full" type guy :D
Sorry but I want a lot more than that. Anything that's more of the same just turns me off. It's like the old Trek stories, they had about a Dozen scripts that they used in each and every series and these then get used in every other sci-fi show. Like the Ground Hog Day script, The imposter crew member script. the Trojan horse script, the list goes on and on.


Ah, kill me now .. I've seen everything there is to see. ;)
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 08:31 PM

Drew you are one "The cup is half Full" type guy :D

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 01:25 AM

I was very happy with episode 1 of SG:U. I'm already interested in the characters and want to find out more about them. It's sorta like they took the Atlantis concept and did it correct. My problem with Atlantis (and Voyager) was they tried to still be the old series, but couldn't quite do it. It seems they've really tried to separate this series as its own entity. We'll see how it pans out, but I'm watching (er... recording... they should count views within a week for ratings....) tomorrow night.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 01:32 AM

Drew you are one "The cup is half Full" type guy :D
Sorry but I want a lot more than that. Anything that's more of the same just turns me off. It's like the old Trek stories, they had about a Dozen scripts that they used in each and every series and these then get used in every other sci-fi show. Like the Ground Hog Day script, The imposter crew member script. the Trojan horse script, the list goes on and on.


Didn't Isaac Asimov once say that there are no new stories, just old stories redone with new ideas? Something like that.

My wife and I really enjoyed SGU and found that it reminded us of the pilot episode of an old 70's series called The Starlost. Only this time, we hope it is done better, and it most likely will.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 02:05 PM

Ah, kill me now .. I've seen everything there is to see. ;)


Thats what made Babylon 5 so great, it had almost none of those rehashed scripts.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 10:08 PM

After watching tonight's episode I'm getting extremely bored. Something better happen on this series soon.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 12:37 AM

Well the episode plot was a bit boring, but we learned about the characters a little more and we already have some out in nowhere, and what or who was that flying off the ship at the end scene?

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 05:32 AM

I think maybe I was one of the five fans that really enjoyed Voyager. I mean come on .. Seven of Nine? Hello!?


She made that show... :D

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 05:56 AM

I liked Voyager, yes.

Me too. I think Voyager got a bad wrap. There were some very good episodes. It ran for 7 seasons so it didn't suck that bad.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:25 AM

Well the episode plot was a bit boring, but we learned about the characters a little more and we already have some out in nowhere, and what or who was that flying off the ship at the end scene?


I actually thought that tonight's episode was better than the previous week. The characters are getting more developed. The scientist is still a secondary role that I dislike. Perhaps he's this series version of the Dr. Smith from Lost in Space. No one likes him. The Lt character seems to be growing in responsibility. I would have liked to see what happens to the two that gated elsewhere. I figure they're dead or perhaps will result in other aliens pursuing the ship.

The spacecraft detaching from their ship at the end? Another reason to watch the coming episodes.

Overall, not as bad as the first week.:)
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:41 AM

guess this ep was ok. I resist because of atlantis, sure get me hooked in good, then cancel the series in hopes I buy the movie. I can't stop thinking this is their business plan.

off topic'ish, 7of9 was in the last leverage episode, and will return with the series in January for anyone whom needs their fix.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:57 AM

Well the episode plot was a bit boring, but we learned about the characters a little more and we already have some out in nowhere, and what or who was that flying off the ship at the end scene?


Perhaps the ship flying off at the end will somehow go and scoop up the folks that got left behind.
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 09:19 AM

Perhaps the ship flying off at the end will somehow go and scoop up the folks that got left behind.


I was disappointed about how singular this episode was. There didn't seem to be much of anything else happening for the 12 hours they were on the planet.

I know they were low on clean air, but no one found a mysterious doohickey that does something useful?

I know its one of the first episodes, but if they want to suck me in go with a couple or 3-4 2 hour episodes to get the baseline going.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 09:51 AM

Episode #3 was a continuation of the Pilot. Next week should get into a more normal flow. I keep wondering how they are going to deal with a lack of things like surgical supplies, water, food, computers, etc. Clearly some of these provisions will be coming to light as other parts of the ship open up to the castaways.
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 10:40 AM

Episode #3 was a continuation of the Pilot. Next week should get into a more normal flow. I keep wondering how they are going to deal with a lack of things like surgical supplies, water, food, computers, etc. Clearly some of these provisions will be coming to light as other parts of the ship open up to the castaways.

Or else they'll find a Star Trek replicator device to make food/water/supplies.:D
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 12:22 PM

Me too. I think Voyager got a bad wrap. There were some very good episodes. It ran for 7 seasons so it didn't suck that bad.


This is a stellar example of just how hard it is to talk about something where opinions can be so subjective. I know there are people who liked Voyager, and I have to say I *loved* the premise. But they started to lose me even during the pilot, which I enjoyed.

I mean, you had a spacefaring race that had warp drive but lacked WATER? I mean, anyone who thinks for a minute knows you can scoop up interstellar hydrogen (the most abundant element in the universe) and combine it with the oxygen that was CLEARLY on all those inhabited planets and, presto, you have water. You have a SUPERB setup in a show where not everyone gets along because of the whole Fed/Maquis thing. By the third or fourth episode, that was completely forgotten. You have a race that mathematically cannot survive (it takes two to produce one and they can never reproduce more than one - cuts your population in half every generation). Etc, etc...

HOWEVER - to some people, these things don't matter. They're looking for other things in a show - or at least those other things are more important. The most obvious case is 7-of-9. And while that might be a little base, it was just the most flagrant example I could think of. Some might be more interested in the relationship between the captain and first officer. Others might just be SFX nuts. It's all relative.

I'm going to give SGU a chance - though I haven't seen the rest of the pilot yet.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 01:16 PM

Last night my wife said "I'm trying to like this show." I think that means it has certain possibilities that could result in a good, long-running series but they need to have made the next two episodes as "plot pattern setters" while further developing the characters. And I hope they do move a little faster. Last night needed some tighter editing with less "endless desert" time and more "back at the ranch" time or something.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 01:53 PM

I mean, you had a spacefaring race that had warp drive but lacked WATER? I mean, anyone who thinks for a minute knows you can scoop up interstellar hydrogen (the most abundant element in the universe) and combine it with the oxygen that was CLEARLY on all those inhabited planets and, presto, you have water. You have a SUPERB setup in a show where not everyone gets along because of the whole Fed/Maquis thing. By the third or fourth episode, that was completely forgotten. You have a race that mathematically cannot survive (it takes two to produce one and they can never reproduce more than one - cuts your population in half every generation). Etc, etc...

We can go on all day about this stuff. What about sound in space? Ships don't make banking turns, etc. etc.... You can pretty much rip any show (or movie) apart, especially Star Wars.

The point is that Voyager was good for some people because:

1 - It was part of the Star Trek universe
2 - Character interaction was interesting in some cases.
3 - Production value was good (decent special effects, music, etc.)
4 - There was interesting Sci-Fi (Time travel, alternate universes etc.)
5 - The story arc was competed with their return to Earth.

So far with SG-U, I can't figure out what kind of show it wants to be. If it's going to be mainly character driven with no interesting sci-fi aspects, I won't be watching long . If I wanted to watch drama driven shows, I'll watch General Hospital. :)




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