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Wii owners might want to wait on updating to 4.2


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#1 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 02:10 PM

There's some talk about it bricking consoles, including ones never hacked or modded.

http://techforums.ni...ard.id=wii_tech

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 02:14 PM

Thanks for the heads-up! I may hold off until they figure this out...
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Posted 01 October 2009 - 04:18 PM

If you use the Homebrew Channel, make sure you update it prior to installing the 4.2 update to prevent the channel from being removed.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 06:40 PM

Thanks for the heads up!

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 07:21 PM

I guess I got lucky. I updated the menu to 4.2 and have not had any problems. :P:D

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 07:30 PM

I guess I got lucky. I updated the menu to 4.2 and have not had any problems. :P:D


It certainly isn't affecting everyone, but from what I understand 4.2 updates the boot loader. If anything happens during the update, the Wii is bricked. Now this can happen, power outage at a bad time etc.) but reports are that the updater itself is buggy.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 07:41 PM

I gotta make sure that I have automatic updates turned off. Last thing I want is a bricked Wii or for my Homebrew to disappear. I love running my games from my external harddrive. It's so much easier and faster.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 08:19 AM

I see this thread has been dead for a while, But there is no problem with HomeBrew and 4.2 now. As of this past few months. I installed it on 2 Wii's that that were updated to 4.2 following the freindly guides we can all find online. Just make sure you are using the 4.2 install files.
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 08:50 AM

Well... I do want to update at some point for the Netflix support, but maybe I'll wait for the next patch.
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 08:54 AM

Well... I do want to update at some point for the Netflix support, but maybe I'll wait for the next patch.

Same thing here.
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 09:27 AM

I am running the NetFlix app on my PS3, it ROCKs.

I didn't realize there is a NetFlix app for the Wii's. I am still doing my continuing education on all things Wii. :P
Anything else haven't found about them yet you all seem to know about :rolleyes:
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Posted 17 January 2010 - 10:53 AM

I am running the NetFlix app on my PS3, it ROCKs.

I didn't realize there is a NetFlix app for the Wii's. I am still doing my continuing education on all things Wii. :P
Anything else haven't found about them yet you all seem to know about :rolleyes:


Not out yet, coming (non-HD of course.)

I hadn't updated my Wii since before my original post but did for Super Mario.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:56 AM

Last I heard, was Spring, but more specifically May/June (If you want to call that Spring?) Will require a disc, to get the Wii up and running. You could do that if you want to wait, or you could Try PlayOn, and have Netflix and a bunch of other stuff streamed to your Wii over WiFi. Need a decent desktop computer, and a WiFi home network. Netflix for Wii is here
//www.netflix.com/InstantStreamingDisc?device=Wii
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 12:14 PM

I had heard possibly April for Netflix Wii. And yes, like PS3 it requires a disc. Some assume this helps the service pass thru the "exclusive" loophole Netflix has w/ Microsoft & the 360 (which is installed as a Live app).

Would not be surprised if the Netflix disc contains some Wii updates, likely for video codec changes/upgrades.

No HD, of course, and DPLII audio at best - but as long as it gives a DVD-level picture, I see this being my method for catching up w/ various TV shows that I have yet to see. If I need HD content from Netflix...well, I get that via BD rentals anyway.
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Posted 13 February 2010 - 10:24 PM

I do not have my wii conneted to the internet.....................................

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 11:03 PM

I believe the only Wii machines which were bricked were ones which have been hacked.

In any case, system 4.2 does not offer any new features and was only released in an attempt to curb the hacking and try to prevent future hacking.

If you haven't updated to 4.2, don't. At least wait for an update that offers some new features.
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Posted 13 February 2010 - 11:24 PM

I believe the only Wii machines which were bricked were ones which have been hacked.

In any case, system 4.2 does not offer any new features and was only released in an attempt to curb the hacking and try to prevent future hacking.

If you haven't updated to 4.2, don't. At least wait for an update that offers some new features.


Nope. Non-modified/non-hacked machines were bricked by the update. That is part of why there was such an uproar about it. And some games do require you to update to v4.2 in order to play them (i.e. Wii Sports Resort).

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 10:01 AM

Nope. Non-modified/non-hacked machines were bricked by the update. That is part of why there was such an uproar about it. And some games do require you to update to v4.2 in order to play them (i.e. Wii Sports Resort).

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I had to update for Super Mario Wii. Other than that, Wii updates are generally useless since they can't include much in the way of new features.

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 01:01 PM

I had to update for Super Mario Wii. Other than that, Wii updates are generally useless since they can't include much in the way of new features.


Not always true. The 4.0 update is what allowed true use of the SD slot on the Wii.

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 03:43 PM

Not always true. The 4.0 update is what allowed true use of the SD slot on the Wii.

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There have been a few things, but the Wii has the goofiest method I've ever heard of. Versions basically pile up on the system. It certainly can't get updated like the Xbox or PS3.

http://hackmii.com/2...get-any-better/

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 05:04 PM

Nope. Non-modified/non-hacked machines were bricked by the update. That is part of why there was such an uproar about it. And some games do require you to update to v4.2 in order to play them (i.e. Wii Sports Resort).

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Weird, never heard of someone with a brick which was not a hacked system.

While some games are tied to certain updates, which are actually loaded via the game DVD itself, no games are tied to a specific system software version. For example, see this website which discloses the specific software (off of the DVD game itself) required to run the game, as well as the system software running to obtain the info.

http://www.wiihacks....es-use-run.html

These guys know a lot about the Wii system software.
They also recommend not to update to system software 4.1, yet they are able to run Wii Resort.
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 05:25 PM

There have been a few things, but the Wii has the goofiest method I've ever heard of. Versions basically pile up on the system. It certainly can't get updated like the Xbox or PS3.

http://hackmii.com/2...get-any-better/


The Wii is setup to have, presumably, up to 256 different internal OSs (IOS) for running programs and the system software. Generally, only one system IOS is loaded and running at any one time. N has put more than one version on the Wii machines, but the additional versions are typically 'stubs' - software which will brick the Wii if run. On hacked machines, especially if you are not careful, there are situations where these stubs will be called and the Wii machined bricked. In system software 4.2, the IOS associated with system software 4.1, as well as a few other notable IOSs, were replaced with stubs. This was one of the main purposes of system 4.2 - to disrupt the hacking community.

I disagree with The Merg, I do not know of ANY instance where a clean Wii machine was bricked by the update. If someone has one, please let me know. I would like to know the circumstances of the brick and to what extent it is bricked, e.g. don't see anything at boot, or see the first screen, but then dies when trying to load the system menu.
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 05:27 PM

I had to update for Super Mario Wii. Other than that, Wii updates are generally useless since they can't include much in the way of new features.


Was not a system update, but I believe an update off the game DVD, right?
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 06:42 PM

The Wii is setup to have, presumably, up to 256 different internal OSs (IOS) for running programs and the system software. Generally, only one system IOS is loaded and running at any one time. N has put more than one version on the Wii machines, but the additional versions are typically 'stubs' - software which will brick the Wii if run. On hacked machines, especially if you are not careful, there are situations where these stubs will be called and the Wii machined bricked. In system software 4.2, the IOS associated with system software 4.1, as well as a few other notable IOSs, were replaced with stubs. This was one of the main purposes of system 4.2 - to disrupt the hacking community.

I disagree with The Merg, I do not know of ANY instance where a clean Wii machine was bricked by the update. If someone has one, please let me know. I would like to know the circumstances of the brick and to what extent it is bricked, e.g. don't see anything at boot, or see the first screen, but then dies when trying to load the system menu.


Sorry, but I gotta disagree....

http://www.joystiq.c...odded-consoles/

http://www.gamespot....ws/6230816.html

http://www.tomsguide...,news-4768.html

As for not requiring the update to play a game, when I first put in Wii Sports Resort, it immediately came up with a message that I needed to update to 4.2 in order to play the game. It then used WiiConnect to download and install the update. It did not come from the DVD. In fact, I had removed the DVD from Wii already when it performed the update.

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 06:45 PM

As for using a hacked Wii, I am in that community. My sole purpose for doing so is to load my games onto an external harddrive to improve loading times and save me the time of swapping DVD's in and out. I have Wii channels set up for each of my games to make it easy for myself and my wife to load them.

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