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Wii owners might want to wait on updating to 4.2


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#26 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 11:46 PM

As for using a hacked Wii, I am in that community. My sole purpose for doing so is to load my games onto an external harddrive to improve loading times and save me the time of swapping DVD's in and out. I have Wii channels set up for each of my games to make it easy for myself and my wife to load them.

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It seems some thing hacking equals doing it to pirate. I get the same thing for jailbreaking my iPod Touch. But like you, I hack my Touch to get features that I want, and Apple doesn't allow. I buy all my apps (that aren't free from the developer of course.)

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 08:01 AM

There have been a few things, but the Wii has the goofiest method I've ever heard of. Versions basically pile up on the system. It certainly can't get updated like the Xbox or PS3.

http://hackmii.com/2...get-any-better/


I don't disagree with you there. It would be nice if they could implement updates that were usable with older games. I would love WiiSpeak to be available for my COD games, but I don't think it is going to happen.

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#28 OFFLINE   james hyde

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 05:20 PM

i have 4.0 on my wii i do not have my wii conneted to the internet.............

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 11:50 AM

Sorry, but I gotta disagree....

http://www.joystiq.c...odded-consoles/

http://www.gamespot....ws/6230816.html

http://www.tomsguide...,news-4768.html

As for not requiring the update to play a game, when I first put in Wii Sports Resort, it immediately came up with a message that I needed to update to 4.2 in order to play the game. It then used WiiConnect to download and install the update. It did not come from the DVD. In fact, I had removed the DVD from Wii already when it performed the update.

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Regarding bricking of unmodded Wiis, these articles are correct. The first stating, "If any problems arise during installation, the bootloader becomes corrupt," but that requires a loss of power, etc. during installation. I am referring to the situation where the Wii is seemingly updated without problem. The Wii reboots to brick status…


Regarding Wii Resort, that was not the case for me. See this related post regarding super mario bros. - >http://techforums.ni...thread.id=10738

The games are not tied to system software, but may include the software or ask the user to update to the latest system software. Typically, this is for those who do not have an internet connection.
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 06:23 PM

Regarding bricking of unmodded Wiis, these articles are correct. The first stating, "If any problems arise during installation, the bootloader becomes corrupt," but that requires a loss of power, etc. during installation. I am referring to the situation where the Wii is seemingly updated without problem. The Wii reboots to brick status…


And as this article states, it does not require loss of power etc...

"The problem appears to lie with an incredibly shoddily programmed update to boot2 of the Wii," reads this forum announcement on NeoGAF. "boot2 is basically the area that "starts up" the Wii. According to the people who have developed HBC, the code for Nintendo's updated boot2 is prone to making write errors, therefore making the possibility of bricking your Wii extremely high, whether or not you have ever hacked or modified your Wii."


Regarding Wii Resort, that was not the case for me. See this related post regarding super mario bros. - >http://techforums.ni...thread.id=10738

The games are not tied to system software, but may include the software or ask the user to update to the latest system software. Typically, this is for those who do not have an internet connection.


That might be true for Super Mario Bros., but it was not for me with Wii Sports Resort. When the loading it up the first time, it told me to update. If I said no, it returned me back to the Wii Menu. I copied the DVD to my external and tried again with the same result. I then went in through WiiConnect and performed the update. I did of course lose use of my external until I fixed HomeBrew.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:46 AM

what is new????????????

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:47 AM

i have 4.0 on my wii.......

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 12:57 PM

what is new????????????


I posted the changes in your other thread. The synopsis really is, unless a game requires it (and it would come with it), there is absolutely no reason to go from 4.0 to 4.2.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 02:49 PM

Yeah accidently updated, and there goes my chances at playing any homebrew games. I know messing with Nintendo code is bad, but the homebrew community has come out with some fantastic features.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:03 PM

i do not want to upgrade to 4.2!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:03 PM

i have 4.0 on my wii.................

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:04 PM

when did 4.0 come out?????

Edited by james hyde, 21 February 2010 - 09:35 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:13 PM

when did 4.0 come out????????????????


March 25, 2009.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 05:31 PM

Yeah accidently updated, and there goes my chances at playing any homebrew games. I know messing with Nintendo code is bad, but the homebrew community has come out with some fantastic features.


There's ways that you can go back and fix it so you can get your HBC back. That's what I ended up doing.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 09:35 PM

it did???

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:30 AM

it did???


What is wrong with you? Why so many useless questions?

Anyways, one of my co-workers Wii's bricked and it was dead stock, no modifications on the 4.2 update.
If you're worried about bricking and you have a soft-modded console do a NAND backup first.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:40 AM

What is wrong with you? Why so many useless questions?

Anyways, one of my co-workers Wii's bricked and it was dead stock, no modifications on the 4.2 update.
If you're worried about bricking and you have a soft-modded console do a NAND backup first.


Not sure why this happens - esp since my Wii has run HBC (not currently) & every update so far has never done anyting beyond erasing HBC (which can easliy be re-installed afterwards).

The major thing to remember about homebrew - in most cases what you do w/ it is 100% safe - but since HBC is also the gateway to online cheats & various forms of piracy - the big N is gonna try & nuke it (and perhaps take your Wii down w/ it) at every chance. And carelessness on the user end w/ HBC stuff can also lead to bricking the console. That is why the HBC option of doing a full NAND backup is a good idea - in most all cases, one can "unbrick" their Wii on their own if a NAND backup is handy.

But w/ every system update so far, the HBC crowd generally finds a new back door/workaround within 24-48 hours of any HBC killing updates.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 06:50 PM

Not sure why this happens - esp since my Wii has run HBC (not currently) & every update so far has never done anyting beyond erasing HBC (which can easliy be re-installed afterwards).

The major thing to remember about homebrew - in most cases what you do w/ it is 100% safe - but since HBC is also the gateway to online cheats & various forms of piracy - the big N is gonna try & nuke it (and perhaps take your Wii down w/ it) at every chance. And carelessness on the user end w/ HBC stuff can also lead to bricking the console. That is why the HBC option of doing a full NAND backup is a good idea - in most all cases, one can "unbrick" their Wii on their own if a NAND backup is handy.

But w/ every system update so far, the HBC crowd generally finds a new back door/workaround within 24-48 hours of any HBC killing updates.


I was surprised when I did my NAND backup I only had 1 bad block, and that was the factory bad block. I figure 3-4 minutes of my time and around 500megs is a lot cheaper than replacing a console. I agree with you that carelessness leads to the majority of the problems. I try to do plenty of research first before I dive in.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 07:57 AM

What is wrong with you? Why so many useless questions?

Anyways, one of my co-workers Wii's bricked and it was dead stock, no modifications on the 4.2 update.
If you're worried about bricking and you have a soft-modded console do a NAND backup first.

Nothing like a twitter posting technique done in a thread here, huh??? ;)

It's as useless here as is twitter itself.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:02 AM

Nothing like a twitter posting technique done in a thread here, huh??? ;)

It's as useless here as is twitter itself.


Except Twitter is not useless. I've actually been able to use it in my job as a network admin.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:07 AM

Except Twitter is not useless. I've actually been able to use it in my job as a network admin.

Glad it works for you.....but IM already serves the same need.

Twitter is a joke. There's a reason even the phone company ads make fun of it.

Going back to topic - has anyone found anything online that "officially" indicates there is a problem with firmware version 4.2 on the Wii?

I've found no such announcement, notification, etc.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 09:26 AM

Glad it works for you.....but IM already serves the same need.

Twitter is a joke. There's a reason even the phone company ads make fun of it.

Going back to topic - has anyone found anything online that "officially" indicates there is a problem with firmware version 4.2 on the Wii?

I've found no such announcement, notification, etc.


Nope, I've used it to check that it's just not my Blackberries out in a particular city, others having the same issue etc. I can't do a #attfail search on IM. It's pathetic, but I've actually gotten better response from customer service reps for AT&T and T-Mobile on Twitter at times than the call center.

As for the 4.2 update, I haven't either. Last I saw they still were blaming hacked consoles which we know isn't the whole story. I finally updated my unhacked one and it worked fine though.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 03:25 PM

As for using a hacked Wii, I am in that community. My sole purpose for doing so is to load my games onto an external harddrive to improve loading times and save me the time of swapping DVD's in and out. I have Wii channels set up for each of my games to make it easy for myself and my wife to load them.

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When you say you setup Wii channels for all your games, do you mean they show up in the boxes on the main page? One of the reasons I didn't go through with the mod was because I thought it would be too hard for the kids to figure out the interface afterwards. If I can set it up so they are on an external drive and are buttons on the main page, I'll be all over that (the kids only play 3 or 4 games, so I have lots of free spaces on the main page).

Edited by Getteau, 24 February 2010 - 03:59 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 03:29 PM

You have to ask yourself, is this really the right forum for this sort of discussion? Do you really want a moderator making a field call as to whether this violates this rule...

You agree to not use the Service to:

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(2) consists of instructional information on illegal activities, including, but not limited to, hacking, cracking, and phreaking


Because as long as there's no call on the field, there are no infractions. As soon as there's a call on the field, well a moderator has to do something about it.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 03:43 PM

I vote to talk about firmware v4.2 for what it does, any issues with it, and what may be in store beyond it - oh wait - that's the thread purpose already. :D
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