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Where to buy an HR23? and other Q's


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#1 OFFLINE   mrfatboy

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 05:02 PM

I finally called Dtv today to discuss upgrading to HD. After being on the phone for 1hr 45 minutes I think I got a great deal. I will discuss that in another thread. But one of the main points is that they will be giving me a $199 credit for an HD DVR.

They could not promise which model I would get when the installation guy comes but they gave me the option to go buy what I wanted and they would give me the $199 credit. So my questions are?

1) Where can I buy one? I could only find online stores such as Amazon and Newegg that carries the HR23. Best Buy only sells the HR22.

2) Is the HR23 the one I really one? Are any of the older models more desirable?

3) Is there a standard HR23 and a HR23-700 model or are they the same thing?

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#2 OFFLINE   bobnielsen

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:34 PM

The only significant difference is that the HR23 is a broadband receiver and doesn't require BBCs. The only advantage of an older receiver is that the HR20s have built-in OTA tuners (others can receive OTA with the addition of the AM21 dual tuner box). They also have a smaller hard drive (300 or 320 GB vs 500 GB). The -700 refers to the manufacturer (Pace).

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:52 PM

Something to consider is that even if you go out and get an HR23, if it fails at some point and DirecTV replaces it, it can be replaced with any model in the HR2x series line. Some people feel it's worth it to get the receiver they want for that time and take their chances down the road.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 05:52 AM

3) Is there a standard HR23 and a HR23-700 model or are they the same thing?

The HR23-700 is the only HR23 model currently available. The -700 is the manufacturer (Pace).

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#5 OFFLINE   Xing

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 07:35 AM

The HR20's have 320GB HDDs but support OTA out of the box.

The HR21s have 320GB HDD, but don't support OTA without AM21.

The HR22s have a 500GB HDD and require the AM21 for OTA.

The HR23s have a 500GB HDD, require the AM21, and do not require a BBC for HD channels, the other HD-DVRs come with the required BBCs.

They all have the same interface, same functions, and RF Remote capablility.

The HR20s are silver shell and all others are black shell.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 07:37 AM

Other than the requirement for BBC's in HR22 receivers on non-SWiM setups, there's no difference between HR22 and HR23 receivers. In fact the only real difference in the whole line is some have a 320GB drive and some have a 500GB drive.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:28 AM

Other than the requirement for BBC's in HR22 receivers on non-SWiM setups, there's no difference between HR22 and HR23 receivers. In fact the only real difference in the whole line is some have a 320GB drive and some have a 500GB drive.

I will add that the difference from 320GB to 500GB actually doubles your available recording time. (Part of the hard drive is used by D* for things like "DirecTV Cinema, so the end user portion is about double). You can accomplish the same thing by adding an external eSATA drive. Although that comes from your pocket and disables the internal drive.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:30 AM

Specifically, the HR20 and HR21 have the 320 GB drive (Some HR20s have 300GB) and the HR22 and HR23 have the 500GB drive.

Also, some here have reported that the HR23 is a bit slow in remote response. I can verify that, as my HR20 is quicker than my HR23. Hopefully, a later software release can help in that area, if it isn't all hardware related.
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#9 OFFLINE   mrfatboy

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:17 AM

thanks for all the info everybody. If the hr23 really has slower response time with the remote what would be a concern for me.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:55 AM

In real simple terms the HR20 series had 2 chips to do the work of tuning and decoding the data stream, and the HR21-23 series have a single chip to do the work that was formerly two separate chips. The 2 chip setup probably costs more to manufacture, but it does operate quicker hence the quicker response to commands from the remote in the HR20 compared to the HR21, HR22, and HR23.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:35 PM

Whoops, i just reread the post. I was thinking it was an issue between the Hr22 and Hr23. I guess it does not matter then :)




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