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DIRECTV now broadcasting 1080p HD


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#1 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 07:40 AM

1080p HD has been available for a few months from DIRECTV. However, all of the titles available from DIRECTV were distributed either via On Demand (Internet download) or DIRECTV Cinema which pushed the movies over the satellite, but not in real time.

Today, DIRECTV started broadcasting 1080p HD. You can now watch a movie from DIRECTV in 1080p HD without downloading on Pay-per-view channel 125.
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:13 AM

Unfortunately they picked a really stupid movie to start this with (Ghosts of Girlfriends Past), but it's cool that they started.
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:23 AM

Unfortunately they picked a really stupid movie to start this with (Ghosts of Girlfriends Past), but it's cool that they started.


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

You might not like that movie but it is one of the highest renting films right now....:confused:
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:25 AM

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

You might not like that movie but it is one of the highest renting films right now....:confused:


LMAO :lol:


Why not something like Wolverine?

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:29 AM

Cool, so not only is HD bandwidth being wasted on PPV, but 1080p PPV, at that.

National HD lags, but woot, we've got 1080p, that many can't, and even more won't, use.

Pfffffffft.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:30 AM

I think it should be clarified that if your tv does not do 1080p/24 it will run as 1080i.
I did just verify this since mine only does 1080p 50/60.
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:37 AM

This is seriously cool. It's a view of things to come.

I wonder when broadcasters will provide 1080p to the service providers. That's when we'll start to see 1080p in the nationals.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:50 AM

DIRECTV was broadcasting 1080/24 two months ago.

http://www.dbstalk.c...910#post2183910

Perhaps it was for testing only. :whatdidid

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:52 AM

Cool, so not only is HD bandwidth being wasted on PPV, but 1080p PPV, at that.

National HD lags, but woot, we've got 1080p, that many can't, and even more won't, use.

Pfffffffft.


Broadcasting in 1080p24 takes no more bandwidth (potentially less) than 1080i60. So you may not like it, but it is doing no more harm that HD PPV was before.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:58 AM

Broadcasting in 1080p24 takes no more bandwidth (potentially less) than 1080i60. So you may not like it, but it is doing no more harm that HD PPV was before.


Yes, but it's a duplicate of channel 148. So, minimally, it's one more HD channel slot.

Why couldn't this have waited for a better test, and spin down the 1080i copy?

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:01 AM

I don't get it. Isn't 1080p/24 going to give you pretty much the same thing as 1080i at 60Hz?

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:13 AM

Broadcasting in 1080p24 takes no more bandwidth (potentially less) than 1080i60. So you may not like it, but it is doing no more harm that HD PPV was before.


Where do you get your facts? Uncompressed 1080p is like 3 gbps, 1080i is only 1.5 gbps. I can't imagine that compressed they would be the same.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:24 AM

This is more a braggart PR move than anything else. People will swear the see the difference, and the emperor's new clothes.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:26 AM

Cool, so not only is HD bandwidth being wasted on PPV, but 1080p PPV, at that.

National HD lags, but woot, we've got 1080p, that many can't, and even more won't, use.

Pfffffffft.


I agree. Our HD locals go out every time Directv runs NFL Sunday Ticket. The whole 1080p resolution pisses me off. It is not even a standard. The standards are 720p and 1080i. Some genius said, "why can't we have progressive 1080?" Totally unnecessary.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:31 AM

Where do you get your facts? Uncompressed 1080p is like 3 gbps, 1080i is only 1.5 gbps. I can't imagine that compressed they would be the same.

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Where do you get YOUR facts? There's no such thing as "uncompressed 1080p" in the consumer world, for one thing; and for another, you can't just say "1080p" or "1080i" in a comparison without specifying the framerate. gregjones' post was correct. :nono:

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:38 AM

Where do you get your facts? Uncompressed 1080p is like 3 gbps, 1080i is only 1.5 gbps. I can't imagine that compressed they would be the same.

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"My facts" come from monitoring my network while watching recordings using DirecTV2PC.
1080p/24 bit-rates have peaked @ 16 Mb/s, and have been as low as 2 Mb/s.
1080i runs ~ 9 Mb/s
All 1080 MPEG-4 HD "could be" send in 1080p/24 since the receivers will output 1080i for those without 1080p/24 supported TVs.
"Uncompressed" is meaningless to the SAT bandwidth.
If there is "a key" here, it's that PPV can be encoded several times before being put on the SAT, where doing it "on the fly" can't.
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:56 AM

Actually if you've ever gone to Best Buy and seen the movies that look like you're looking out a window, that's because of the 24Hz signal. Film is shot at 24 frames per second and when shown at 60 frames per second, it gets that familiar blur that comes from the fact that 24 does not go into 60 evenly.

The 1080p part may or may not give you perceivable extra quality depending on the size of your TV but showing a 24fps movie at 24hz (or some even multiple like 120Hz) should give you a much better experience.
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:59 AM

This is cool. I might probably won't buy one, but it is cool. Mainly because I don't see a big advantage over OnDemand. Perhaps they could broadcast THE 101 in 1080P/24. Since they control all aspects of that network.
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 10:05 AM

This is cool. I might probably won't buy one, but it is cool. Mainly because I don't see a big advantage over OnDemand. Perhaps they could broadcast THE 101 in 1080P/24. Since they control all aspects of that network.

It can be watched on receivers that aren't DVRs.
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Posted 13 October 2009 - 10:08 AM

Watching the preview now this is like seeing history in the making .Oh well screen just went blank except for ordering info.




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