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Communication service tax?


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#21 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 07:45 PM

Only my bill, I have "Sales Tax" and "TN Satellite Programming Sales Tax". :(

If I'm not mistaken, it used to be called a "Satellite Luxury Tax" on my bill... or something to that effect.

...because have cable is TV but satellite is a luxury

We used to dreeeeeam of having satellite TV. :D

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#22 OFFLINE   TBlazer07

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:06 PM

In NJ, DirecTV taxes only the $5 "lease" fee(s) and the protection plan. So it's 77cents/month for me. I'm sure that will change now that we have a new Gov. :)

It all depends on the state. Florida is the worst.

#23 OFFLINE   joe diamond

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:11 AM

But what exactly is the basis of such a tax (assuming there actually is a genuine one)?

That a state owns the earth's atmosphere above it and may thereby charge for right of passage for the satellite radio waves passing through from space to earth?

What nonsense ... :nono2:

But then again if it made sense it wouldn't be politics I guess ... :icon_lame


That is another way of stating the question,

Which elected officials think they can get away with it and why? Or why has Directv not found these politicians and addressed the issue under the table long before now.

It seems governments can tax users; use the roads and your fuel will be taxed to pay for them. Do things we don't like (mariajuana users) or do things that cause public damage (smokers & drinkers) and they will tax you. Your income will be taxed to redistribute wealth to help those unable or unwilling to earn their own and protect the place, etc.

This one seems outside what has already been taxed. The only obvious reason seems to be that politicians see money and want it.

What did I not state that explains this?

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Edited by joe diamond, 13 November 2009 - 10:15 AM.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:16 AM

Its a tax in Florida... this may explain it for you [link].


How come the internet isn't listed? That is communication, voip and the magic jack use it.

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:18 AM

In NJ, DirecTV taxes only the $5 "lease" fee(s) and the protection plan. So it's 77cents/month for me. I'm sure that will change now that we have a new Gov. :)

It all depends on the state. Florida is the worst.

77¢/month :eek2:

I guess I need to move back to Elizabeth. :D

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:25 AM

LOL ..... you might want to reconsider that since NJ has the highest overall total taxes in the USA. You'll make up for the DirecTV sales tax savings real quick. :)


77¢/month :eek2:

I guess I need to move back to Elizabeth. :D

Mike



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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:27 AM

Rest assured it's monthly.

Thanks for all of the info, folks. I still can't figure if this tax is monthly or annually. It was not on my October bill, but it is on my November bill.

As far as the cable companies, after checking it out I see that they have the communications tax in Florida as well as satellite, BUT, they have a lower rate than satellite.



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Posted 13 November 2009 - 11:28 AM

Florida Tax

We've had this relatively high tax, roughly double the regular sales tax, for a number of years now. It was passed at the "request" of the cable companies to try to make the cost of using satellite services to be at least as much if not more than cable TV services. The argument was that since satellite companies had no local presence and therefore paid no local ad valorem taxes, nor sales taxes nor franchise fees, the satellite companies had an unfair advantage (and government was losing out of several revenue streams).

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 11:45 AM

I liked this story from 2001 when California tried to tax DirecTV's satellites:



Repeat: old story, so you don't need to tell me that Hughes doesn't own DirecTV anymore. :)


I like the quip about the satellite catching fire myself.

#30 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 11:52 AM

LOL ..... you might want to reconsider that since NJ has the highest overall total taxes in the USA. You'll make up for the DirecTV sales tax savings real quick. :)

In that case I'll stay where I am. :D

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 11:56 AM

Florida Tax

We've had this relatively high tax, roughly double the regular sales tax, for a number of years now. It was passed at the "request" of the cable companies to try to make the cost of using satellite services to be at least as much if not more than cable TV services. The argument was that since satellite companies had no local presence and therefore paid no local ad valorem taxes, nor sales taxes nor franchise fees, the satellite companies had an unfair advantage (and government was losing out of several revenue streams).


That is how it is supposed to work.......equal opportunity, that is. You find a better way and exploit it. Keep the money from the investment as a profit. How about raising the tax to compensate the satellite companies for their satellite fleet costs? Rockets ain't cheap ya know.

The term "unfair advantage" deserves more examination.

Joe




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