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Rainbow Media, MSG Face Contract Expiration With DirecTV: Update: Contract renewed!


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#21 OFFLINE   Xsabresx

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:12 AM

So this leads to a question.

If the worst happens and Directv loses MSG, will out of market folks still get MSG games on Center Ice? Isn't that a separate agreement with the NHL and the specific carriers for Center Ice?
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:19 AM

So this leads to a question.

If the worst happens and Directv loses MSG, will out of market folks still get MSG games on Center Ice? Isn't that a separate agreement with the NHL and the specific carriers for Center Ice?

I was wondering the same thing. The other thing I thought about, will they replace them with Canadian feeds?
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:27 AM

So this leads to a question.

If the worst happens and Directv loses MSG, will out of market folks still get MSG games on Center Ice? Isn't that a separate agreement with the NHL and the specific carriers for Center Ice?


My guess is that it won't come to that but if it does you'd probably see a situation like you do with the CSN Philly feeds. They'll be provided if there's no other telecast available.

I'd also be gone. No way I'm living without MSG and MSG+ since I'd be blacked out of every Ranger, Devil and Islander game.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:34 AM

I was wondering the same thing. The other thing I thought about, will they replace them with Canadian feeds?

If it were to happen, probably, and those in NY would be blacked out.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:52 AM

If it were to happen, probably, and those in NY would be blacked out.


No probably about it, they will be blacked out. MSG is the regional owner of the rights to contests they play in. Unless they granted DirecTV the right to use a different feed (which they would never do), those in the coverage area would be SOL.
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:08 AM

No probably about it, they will be blacked out.

The "probably" was for D* replacing them with Canadian feeds, not about them being blacked out. :)

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:23 AM

The "probably" was for D* replacing them with Canadian feeds, not about them being blacked out. :)


But DirecTV could only use the canadian feeds for CI customers, those in the home team coverage area would be blacked out from any feed.
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:28 AM

But DirecTV could only use the canadian feeds for CI customers, those in the home team coverage area would be blacked out from any feed.

That's true, but my main concern is NHL CI. That's what I was responding to in my original post. I would prefer the MSG feeds, but the Canadian feeds would be better then no feed. It would be great if they were Canadian HD feeds.
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 08:45 AM

The more I read into this, the more I have a problem with content providers and distributors being one in the same. Ironically, MSG overpays for mediocre players while they expect other companies to overpay for mediocre programming. Between MSG and MSG+, they have about 400 sports event broadcasts per year between NHL and NBA (estimating playoffs and exclusion of national broadcast games) and want $4.10 per sub per month. YES gets $2.68 per sub per month and has around 225 sports event broadcasts per year. SNY has only the Mets at $1.95 per sub per month. When does this trend stop? Aside from sporting events, these networks really have nothing worth talking about.

If you could save $4.10 per month on your cable bill and dump MSG and MSG+, would you?

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 09:05 AM

If you could save $4.10 per month on your cable bill and dump MSG and MSG+, would you?

No, because I watch them. But even if they dropped them, our bills wouldn't go down anyways. Did they go down when when Versus was dropped? No, and our bill is going up again in February.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:41 PM

The more I read into this, the more I have a problem with content providers and distributors being one in the same. Ironically, MSG overpays for mediocre players while they expect other companies to overpay for mediocre programming. Between MSG and MSG+, they have about 400 sports event broadcasts per year between NHL and NBA (estimating playoffs and exclusion of national broadcast games) and want $4.10 per sub per month. YES gets $2.68 per sub per month and has around 225 sports event broadcasts per year. SNY has only the Mets at $1.95 per sub per month. When does this trend stop? Aside from sporting events, these networks really have nothing worth talking about.

If you could save $4.10 per month on your cable bill and dump MSG and MSG+, would you?

First of all, most of us don't have cable. And for my D* bill, I would pay an extra $4.10/mo right now if I could get all the MSG HD channels on NHLCI.

Also, what did you mean by "MSG overpays for mediocre players"? Are you referring to the fact that Cablevision owns the NY Rangers and MSG is a subsidary of theirs? And how can you even ask the question about saving $4.10/mo to dump MSG, after posting this?

I wonder if that affects NHL Center Ice... if that's the case and I can longer see the Devils broadcasts on Center Ice I'll have to find an alternate way to watch hockey because anyone but Doc and Chico just doesn't cut it.


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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:57 PM

Those two channels (MSG and MSG+ in HD) are the reason I switched to DTV in the first place. If they pull them I'm history.


What sux for me is if D* drops MSG, my ONLY other choice is to go with the Dolans and get CV. So either way, the Dolans screw me!!!

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 03:06 PM

The more I read into this, the more I have a problem with content providers and distributors being one in the same.


This. But with them spinning off the entertainment arm of their company to be seperate from their distributor arm, I wonder if this really holds true. I always thought, especially in NY, that offering MSG et al on DirecTV and Dish has to hurt their subscriber numbers. But since they will be operating seperately, I'm not sure it matters anymore.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 09:17 PM

I was asking a hypothetical... me personally, if I could get the MSG HD channels I would pay that as well. I meant TV bill but I've had cable for all my life except the past 3 months, so force of habit. But I was just wondering how many people here would be willing to drop the two for a $4.10 savings. And yes, that was a dig at the Rangers :)

If I have to get an online feed for a game to see Doc and Chico, I will do so... let's hope it doesn't come to that.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 07:17 PM

So has anyone heard anything yet on this?

EDIT: I just saw this

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 07:33 PM

So has anyone heard anything yet on this?

EDIT: I just saw this


Hopefully a new accord is signed and it includes all the HD versions of those channels, along with access to MSG/+ HD feeds for NHL CI.

Let's start the new year off right, with positive attitudes :)
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Posted 31 December 2009 - 07:33 PM

Hopefully a new accord is signed and it includes all the HD versions of those channels, along with access to MSG/+ HD feeds for NHL CI.

Let's start the new year off right, with positive attitudes :)

I hope so. :)

*And maybe something that gives D* the ability to use the MSG HD feeds in NHLCI. ;)

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 09:32 PM

D* and Rainbow have come to an agreement more to come in the coming days

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 09:46 PM

DirecTV, Rainbow Media, MSG Renew Carriage Contract

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 10:37 PM

Woohoo!

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