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Confirmed: Sirius/XM Is Leaving DIRECTV


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#26 OFFLINE   dishrich

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:08 PM

Sonic Tap... this is what used to be called Digital Music Express (DMX), right?


Yes, if you look at the DMX DBS lineup, you'll see that the new channel names on D*'s link appear on the DMX lineup now, so clearly they are going to use DMX service.

http://www.dmx.com/f...annelLineup.pdf

Frankly, I'm looking forward to this change. I've never been happy with the XM service on D*. The sound quality has never been as good as Music Choice, & I really don't care for all the DJ clap-trap; all I want is uninterrupted music. And, ever since Sirius & XM merged, the playlists on my favorite channels has gone to hell as well; some not much better than commercial radio. Since I do have Music Choice back on cable, this will make another alternative I can use for something different.

Edited by dishrich, 24 December 2009 - 04:39 PM.


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#27 OFFLINE   xmguy

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:08 PM

Sorry but I'm F'ing PISSED! I really enjoying listening to my favorite XM channels on DirecTV. My guess is SXM wanted to charge customers more pre month to carry XM. I wonder what will happen on the Dish Network side.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:14 PM

I never saw the XM content as a long-term relationship with DirecTV anyway...more like a teaser service for some folks.

If I want to properly listen to digital music, I'll do just that if and when needed. My guess is the agreement was either ending, and the cost was too high for the actual use ratings to make it a win-win with XM.
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#29 OFFLINE   Jtaylor1

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:20 PM

This is a big shame. I will sure miss The Pulse and Cinemagic.

Leona Lewis' "Better in Time", Nickelback's "Rockstar", Maroon 5's "Makes Me Wonder", Kid Rock's "All Summer Long", and Default's "Wasting My Time" were my favorite songs on channel 818.

I wish D* and E* had merged.

I guess I'll watch them on YouTube.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:29 PM

Music Choice was better quality, IMO. I am not all that impressed with XM sound quality.


I think XM sound quality was slightly better than Music Choice, but both pale in comparison to lowly 128-bps AAC music.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:36 PM

I never (ever!) listen, but the loss of Radio Disney will be a deal killer for a lot of parents!

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:38 PM

I for one will relish some new choices.


Yep. Gives us a chance to ketchup on what other providers have.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:41 PM

You can....we get these already if u have the package:

870 [New Channel] Fiesta Tropical
871 [New Channel] Latin Contemporary
872 [New Channel] Music of the Americas
873 [New Channel] Regional Mexican
874 [New Channel] Salsa
875 [New Channel] Hurbano
876 [New Channel] Mariachi
877 [New Channel] Carnaval Brasileiro
878 [New Channel] Rock en Espanol
879 [New Channel] Latin Jazz


This won't really give me a taste for the music catalogs of the channels I listen to. Specifically, Pulse, Blend, 70's, 80's, Prime Country and Top Tracks.

Time will tell.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:41 PM

I wish they would drop all of them and lower my bill.


DirecTV was paid by XM to carry their music channels. Given their financial issues, I'm not surprised they decided to discontinue their D* carriage.

Don't know who's paying who for Sonic Tap on DirecTV though.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:44 PM

I never saw the XM content as a long-term relationship with DirecTV anyway...more like a teaser service for some folks.

If I want to properly listen to digital music, I'll do just that if and when needed. My guess is the agreement was either ending, and the cost was too high for the actual use ratings to make it a win-win with XM.


I guess that is why I have the Yamaha MusiCast MCX-2000 with a 750 Gig Hard Drive installed in it so I can Listen to really Great PCM Quality Music on my Klipsch Reference Series Speakers.

Can't handle MP3 Stuff!!! I've got 300 CDs on it in PCM Quality so Goodbye XM Radio and Hello MusiCast!!!

Edited by Richierich, 24 December 2009 - 04:49 PM.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:50 PM

Yep. Gives us a chance to ketchup on what other providers have.


It mayo may not make a difference to some, but I'll miss Deep Tracks.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 05:04 PM

LOL. I haven't heard any SonicTap, but I think it's going to be a stretch to say that the Spectrum (882) will be "Italian Contemporary", Top 20 will be "Irish" (YEAH... When you think of the top 20 songs in the US these days, they all come from Ireland!!) , and (my favorite comparison)... music from the 80's is "Tranquility"... Sounds more to me like they put the list in order of how easy it was to find a match and they got down to the end and thought... Uh oh... Now what... And then they just paired what was left over...

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 05:12 PM

Ugh, very disappointing news.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 06:40 PM

This is sad news.

Deep Tracks will really, really be missed in this household, especially its great Program Director and DJ, Earle Bailey, the Black Light Room, For Headphones Only, Hand Mixed Vinyl, Bob Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour and Tom Petty's Buried Treasure.

The sound quality on Deep Tracks over D* was very good (they clearly gave it more bandwidth than the other XM channels on D*, some of which appeared to drop down to mono from time to time.). Good enough I could enjoy it on a good home stereo.

There is no chance a generic "oldies" rock channel can possibly replace Deep Tracks. I don't really need sat radio in the car, but will probably pay to get a high quality feed of Deep tracks into my house. (Maybe that was XM's plan all along ;))

Thanks for all the fun Deep Tracks. You reminded me of some good times with old friends, introduced me to some great recordings and artists, and made my world a little brighter. I wish Earle and the other Deep Track DJ's continued success in the new year!

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 06:52 PM

LOL. I haven't heard any SonicTap, but I think it's going to be a stretch to say that the Spectrum (882) will be "Italian Contemporary", Top 20 will be "Irish" (YEAH... When you think of the top 20 songs in the US these days, they all come from Ireland!!) , and (my favorite comparison)... music from the 80's is "Tranquility"... Sounds more to me like they put the list in order of how easy it was to find a match and they got down to the end and thought... Uh oh... Now what... And then they just paired what was left over...


There are no music channels above 879, at least not on my service. The Spectrum is actually on 832 and is correctly paired with "Rock: Adult Alternative".

Although, when I first noticed "815 The Loft: Holiday & Happenings", I thought WTF???:)
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Posted 24 December 2009 - 06:54 PM

DirecTV was paid by XM to carry their music channels. Given their financial issues, I'm not surprised they decided to discontinue their D* carriage.

Don't know who's paying who for Sonic Tap on DirecTV though.


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Posted 24 December 2009 - 06:56 PM

This is great news!!

One of the reasons I told Time-Warner Cable to take a hike in 2000 was when they discontinued the DMX music service that the prior operator had (TCI). DMX offered 30 channels of digital music for $5 a month using a separate set-top (or "stereo top") box with a huge remote containing an LCD display that gave the song title and artist!

The programming was excellent with NO obnoxious DJ's or any irksome interruptions at all unlike Sirius-XM. Of course, this "sonic tap" version of DMX might be quite different.

In any event, I resubscribed to Sirius-XM on my home & car radios before the price hike so I'll have BOTH services until into 2011.

Maybe I'll have to dig out one of my old DirecTV receivers and add it back to my account and hook it up to my stereo if sonic tap is really cool...

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:13 PM

will also miss deep tracks ,i sure hope sonlc tap has a progressive rock channel.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:27 PM

DirecTV was paid by XM to carry their music channels. Given their financial issues, I'm not surprised they decided to discontinue their D* carriage.

Don't know who's paying who for Sonic Tap on DirecTV though.


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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:38 PM

Yes, a change is coming for early February. I believe customers will be notified in the next few days officially but obviously it appears some information came out a few days earlier than anticipated.

Let me tell you what this means:

MORE MUSIC choices for everyone. The new lineup will mean up to 84 music channels. I believe the most any base package currently had was 65, so it's a big jump.

The number of music channels will be dependent on the base package, but every main base package is getting an increase in music channels, including Family. Some will see a larger increase (Premier & Lo Maximo customers will see the largest increase in music channels).

More Variety. You will see a bit more variety now then you did before as well. More genres, including some additional ethnic\national themed channels.

The transition also means no more interruptions (i.e. No DJ interruptions, no more interstitials, no more on-air read commercials).

Net, net, should be a great music choice for customers. More channels, no more interruptions. From an equivalency perspective, for almost every channel that Sirius \ XM had, SonicTap has an equivalent. Whether it's Cinemagic or DeepTracks or everything in between, SonicTap has the same genre of music offerings, the same titles, same artists, etc.

More music channels, more variety, no interruptions. SonicTap has already been with DIRECTV since 2008 offering 10 music channels since then.

Wishing all of you a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:46 PM

This is great news!!

One of the reasons I told Time-Warner Cable to take a hike in 2000 was when they discontinued the DMX music service that the prior operator had (TCI). DMX offered 30 channels of digital music for $5 a month using a separate set-top (or "stereo top") box with a huge remote containing an LCD display that gave the song title and artist!

The programming was excellent with NO obnoxious DJ's or any irksome interruptions at all unlike Sirius-XM. Of course, this "sonic tap" version of DMX might be quite different.

In any event, I resubscribed to Sirius-XM on my home & car radios before the price hike so I'll have BOTH services until into 2011.

Maybe I'll have to dig out one of my old DirecTV receivers and add it back to my account and hook it up to my stereo if sonic tap is really cool...


I already had my R22 QuickTune set to Highway and Prime Country. I had a digital link running from my R22 to my Stereo receiver. I'm pissed. I have 2 XM radios. But enjoy being able to listen to XM in other rooms where my XM isn't.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:51 PM

If anyone is curious exactly WHAT these "replacement" music channels play, go to http://www.dmxmusic.com and choose the DBS channel lineup. You will see the channel names exactly like they appear on the DirecTV web site announcement page. On the DMX web site, you can see what each channel has played in the past hour. Just click on "What's Playing".

I checked this out with the "Latin Jazz" channel which DirecTV already carries and is in my package. Sure enough, the listing on the DMX web site is EXACTLY the songs that were played on the DirecTV "Sonic Tap" Latin Jazz channel!!

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 08:04 PM

Deep Tracks is a favorite of mine as well...

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 08:08 PM

I hope there's an equivalent to Bluesville (preferably closer to XM's version of "Bluesville" than SiriusXM's "B.B. King's Bluesville."

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 08:33 PM

After reading a few links and seeing that there won't really be much of a change, I am indifferent. If it helps my bill stay the same (not go up) I don't mind then.
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