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#51 OFFLINE   cousinofjah

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 03:00 AM

I think it should be part of the Sports package just like it is on DISH and Cable. Not everyone can afford the $350 a year to get all the ST channels. I remember when ST first came out on C-Band satellite, the entire package was only $99 a year. DirecTV took it over and look what it is today. DirecTV needs to offer it outside of the ST package, as an outlet to keep people that can't afford ST, from jumping ship to cable or DISH.

to be fair, the reason for the price increase is that the exclusivity of Sunday Ticket demands that much nowadays. NFL TV deals never stay the same price and DirecTV knows they can bid that much and people will pay $300 to watch. Including every sports bar in America.
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:01 AM

Yup, I'm still crossing my fingers....:)

I just wish they'd let us know....if I can get NFL RedZone or RZC separate from ST, I'd add 2 HD DVR's to my account and be set with DirecTV for many years to come :) But as of right now, come August if I don't get RedZone for $100 or less, I'm out! :D


Same here, no reasonably priced redzone no directv.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 07:57 AM

to be fair, the reason for the price increase is that the exclusivity of Sunday Ticket demands that much nowadays. NFL TV deals never stay the same price and DirecTV knows they can bid that much and people will pay $300 to watch. Including every sports bar in America.

It sure would have been nice if my wages would have increased by 300%, during the time period that ST increased 300%. I can see cost of living increases of any product, but that type of increase has eliminated many of us from purchasing ST.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 08:04 AM

to be fair, the reason for the price increase is that the exclusivity of Sunday Ticket demands that much nowadays. NFL TV deals never stay the same price and DirecTV knows they can bid that much and people will pay $300 to watch. Including every sports bar in America.

Those prices for Sports bars are much higher than the $300 consumer prices. Not sure if they are still that way, but they used to be based on the capacity of the establishment.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 09:20 AM

I will win the lottery before Redzone is offered separately.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 09:37 AM

It sure would have been nice if my wages would have increased by 300%, during the time period that ST increased 300%. I can see cost of living increases of any product, but that type of increase has eliminated many of us from purchasing ST.


To be accurate the price of ST in 1997 was $159, last year it was $299. An increase of 88%. HD wasn't enough offered in '97, but if you wanted to compare pricing with HD you would be looking at $399 vs $159, a 250% increase, but more features are available.

Heck, I wish prices wouldn't go up, but they do.:)

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 09:43 AM

To be accurate the price of ST in 1997 was $159, last year it was $299. An increase of 88%. HD wasn't enough offered in '97, but if you wanted to compare pricing with HD you would be looking at $399 vs $159, a 250% increase, but more features are available.

Heck, I wish prices wouldn't go up, but they do.:)

When I had my C-Band system I paid $99 a year for it.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 11:52 AM

Those prices for Sports bars are much higher than the $300 consumer prices. Not sure if they are still that way, but they used to be based on the capacity of the establishment.


They ARE still that way, and DirecTV's big money maker on NFLST is commercial subs, with Casinos paying $50k or more per season and bars pay a ton too. NFLST for regular customers is more of a "bring you into DirecTV/keep you at DirecTV tool," (Customer addition and retention) and that is why discounts can be had. You don't see discounts for commercial service though.

Customer addition and retention, and the fact that nobody would sub to NFL ST just for RZC (And thus someone who subs for NFL ST to get their out of market team is not going to drop to RZC only), means there is a chance that RZC only will be offered stand-alone or part of the sports pack.

If not now, when DirecTV's deal expires and they want to renew with the NFL and keep it a DirecTV exclusive, NFL could demand that RZC (Either DirecTV's or NFLN's version) be offered stand-alone or in a sports pack, and in that case DirecTV would comply because they love NFLST exclusivity, mainly because of commercial accounts.
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 11:33 PM

It sure would have been nice if my wages would have increased by 300%, during the time period that ST increased 300%. I can see cost of living increases of any product, but that type of increase has eliminated many of us from purchasing ST.

Not many sports rights packages depreciated over that time (as did the players' wages) but, steel workers and pilots salaries have. Just the way the economy works.
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 11:35 PM

Customer addition and retention, and the fact that nobody would sub to NFL ST just for RZC (And thus someone who subs for NFL ST to get their out of market team is not going to drop to RZC only), means there is a chance that RZC only will be offered stand-alone or part of the sports pack.

If not now, when DirecTV's deal expires and they want to renew with the NFL and keep it a DirecTV exclusive, NFL could demand that RZC (Either DirecTV's or NFLN's version) be offered stand-alone or in a sports pack, and in that case DirecTV would comply because they love NFLST exclusivity, mainly because of commercial accounts.


It would be nice if the NFL went with the DirecTV Redzone channel. I know why they can't but I love Siciliano (the one time I saw him).
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Posted 19 February 2010 - 07:55 AM

It would be nice if the NFL went with the DirecTV Redzone channel. I know why they can't but I love Siciliano (the one time I saw him).


Yes, he's a lot more fun to listen to.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 09:59 AM

Many subscribers get the NFL ST just for the Red Zone Channel?


i get NFL ST for GREEN BAY and RZC

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 10:07 PM

I live in the greater LA area and have no team although I'm a bit of an Indy fan having worked for Eli Lilly for 32 years. I pay the full boat to get ONLY the red zone. In my opinion it's the way to watch NFL Sundays as there is no advertisement. When I confronted Direct yesterday on this subject they immediately suggested a $10.00 per month (12 months) to "compensate" for some of the difference. I will go along for another year but i may find myself using a secondary source if the Red Zone costs so little on other suppliers.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 03:51 PM

I live in the greater LA area and have no team although I'm a bit of an Indy fan having worked for Eli Lilly for 32 years. I pay the full boat to get ONLY the red zone. In my opinion it's the way to watch NFL Sundays as there is no advertisement. When I confronted Direct yesterday on this subject they immediately suggested a $10.00 per month (12 months) to "compensate" for some of the difference. I will go along for another year but i may find myself using a secondary source if the Red Zone costs so little on other suppliers.

they seem to be offering $10/mo for a lot of people who call in
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 09:09 PM

I live in the greater LA area and have no team although I'm a bit of an Indy fan having worked for Eli Lilly for 32 years. I pay the full boat to get ONLY the red zone. In my opinion it's the way to watch NFL Sundays as there is no advertisement. When I confronted Direct yesterday on this subject they immediately suggested a $10.00 per month (12 months) to "compensate" for some of the difference. I will go along for another year but i may find myself using a secondary source if the Red Zone costs so little on other suppliers.

I go back and forth every year on ST and RZ

It seems that every year the price goes up and I am left deciding if it is worth it and I cave most years. Being a fan of a team out-of-the-area, it is the ONLY way for me to watch games....I am not able to get up and go to a bar early/mid-day Sundays so it is my home or nothing.

Even with the price increase, I am hoping to try and get a good deal for this year.....




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