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DIRECTV SWM32 spotted at CES


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#21 OFFLINE   HoTat2

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 01:31 PM

When you're distributing the signal to a potential 32 outlets, some amplification is probably needed.


OK;

Sounds reasonable, but I wonder if the OTA input port labeled;

"OFF-AIR
20 VDC OUT"

Next to "SWiM Port 3" in the PDF document also doubles as a loop-thru output to supply the 20 VDC to the OTA circuits of I assume other possible cascaded SWM-32s downstream in a large MDU installation so you do not need two power adapters for each individual unit.

But wouldn't that require something like a off-air signal splitter with a power pass on one leg to use it?

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#22 OFFLINE   Jeremy W

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 01:46 PM

But wouldn't that require something like a off-air signal splitter with a power pass on one leg to use it?

I would think so, since it's outputting 20 VDC although it's an OTA input. If you just connected it to the 20 VDC IN on another SWM32, you'd have no OTA on the SWiM 3 output.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 01:49 PM

Like the SWM16, the SWM32 also has "cascade ports" instead of the legacy ports of the SWM8, which means you can connect another SWM32 to the outputs of the first SWM32.


Is there a limit to the number of SWM32s you could cascade?

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:30 PM

Is there a limit to the number of SWM32s you could cascade?


Absolute-yes
Practically-no

FMC-6 chassis are recommendend to go no futher than four deep.
With amplifiers and MST-774 4 way taps huge MDU projects can be designed with thousands of receivers.

Imagine 4 output on taps each to 4 SWM-32.
with 4 taps on each leg that can be reamped 4 times!

32x4x4x4x4 = 8192 receivers
Now that would make Tom Robertson envious!!!:):):)

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:31 PM

Absolute-yes
Practically-no

FMC-6 chassis are recommendend to go no futher than four deep.
With amplifiers and MST-774 4 way taps huge MDU projects can be designed with thousands of receivers.

Imagine 4 output on taps each to 4 SWM-32.
with 4 taps on each leg that can be reamped 4 times!

32x4x4x4x4 = 8192 receivers
Now that would make Tom Robertson envious!!!:):):)

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#26 OFFLINE   kevinturcotte

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:33 PM

8192 tuners?!?!?! WOW! Whoever had that many, please adopt me lol

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 03:02 PM

That's why I brought it up! :lol: :)

Could you imaging the HEAT coming off of this thing! you can see by all the fins on this thing it must be able to boil an egg!

He has one of those "green" houses that uses the thermal properties of all the IRDs to warm his home. :D
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 03:04 PM

He has one of those "green" houses that uses the thermal properties of all the IRDs to warm his home. :D

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 03:27 PM

That would be nice, but I'd rather have 2- SWiM16's. :)

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 03:32 PM

That would be nice, but I'd rather have 2- SWiM16's. :)

As long as we're talking about fantasy, why not just an actual SWiM32?

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 04:27 PM

8192 tuners?!?!?! WOW! Whoever had that many, please adopt me lol


I agree, WOW! :eek2:

Makes you wonder if there's really any need now for the more expensive IP based MFH-3 for large MDU installs. Since I've also heard a fair amount of criticism about that system.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 04:41 PM

Wonder if one of those fits in a carry on bag.....I'm just sayin' :D:lol:
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 05:01 PM

I agree, WOW! :eek2:

Makes you wonder if there's really any need now for the more expensive IP based MFH-3 for large MDU installs. Since I've also heard a fair amount of criticism about that system.


Places that use MFH3 will not sub out for SWM unless they spent a lot more money than they needed to for just video.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 05:33 PM

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 06:02 PM

Places that use MFH3 will not sub out for SWM unless they spent a lot more money than they needed to for just video.


Oh I understand that;

But I was referring primarily to which would be a better choice now for future large MDU installs with the advent of the SWiM32. Still the expensive and more technically complex MFH-3 system or a large array of cascaded SWiM32s?

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 07:09 PM

But I was referring primarily to which would be a better choice now for future large MDU installs with the advent of the SWiM32. Still the expensive and more technically complex MFH-3 system or a large array of cascaded SWiM32s?

If they choose SWiM, they'll have to run coax and Ethernet. If they choose MFH-3, they can just run Ethernet. I'm not in the MFH-3 "scene" so I haven't heard about the complaints, but it seems like a really cool system. I'm all about infrastructure consolidation.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 08:03 PM

If they choose SWiM, they'll have to run coax and Ethernet. If they choose MFH-3, they can just run Ethernet. I'm not in the MFH-3 "scene" so I haven't heard about the complaints, but it seems like a really cool system. I'm all about infrastructure consolidation.


Do any hotels use a MFH-3 like system?

the direct tv web site says

Coming soon:
DIRECTV's Exclusive Electronic Programming Guide
Promote your hotel with a customizable programming guide. Provide a familiar TV
experience with the same channel guide your guests know from home. Ask how
you can qualify today.


lodgenet does seem to offer

http://www.lodgenet....tsPackages.aspx

and looks to be a per room PPV thing and I don't think that they will want to have boxes that just sit about turned the same channel 24/7 for a very part time channel?

and does any hotel with type of system trun on part time rsn over flows?

and the new lodgenet systems use IP for tv.

Edited by JoeTheDragon, 08 January 2010 - 08:21 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2010 - 08:15 PM

You wouldn't need 8192 ports, just one for every available channel and an STB tuned to each. Actually, the SWiM16 is all I would need. :D

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