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SixtoReport: DirecTV National HD Listing


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#221 OFFLINE   BigRedFan

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 04:11 PM

Might that be a new local channel. Seems like they've recently added a number of new local HD channels.


I don't think so.... Local channels should stop at Ch. 69 (no FCC OTA channel frequencies above 69 and this is being placed on 74).... DTV carries national networks beginning on Ch. 71....

Also, DTV Newsletter's "New Channel Line-Up" lists only national networks... No local stations are listed here (otherwise it'd be a very thick newsletter)... It's also listed as "TeleFutura" (between TeenNick and Tennis Channel) and not as a local station call letter, ie. WFUT-68- NYC....

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 07:56 PM

I have a shopping channel on 74.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 07:57 PM

I have a shopping channel on 74.

Me too.
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 10:30 PM

Local channels should stop at Ch. 69 (no FCC OTA channel frequencies above 69 and this is being placed on 74).

Now that we are in the post-DTV transition era, OTA TV channel assigments stop at Ch. 51 (692-698 MHz). Virtual channel numbers encoded into DTV signals may still extend beyond 51.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 11:31 PM

I have a shopping channel on 74.


The channels between 71 and 98 are generally all SD paid infomercial channels (not national "networks") which DTV does not acknowledge or list in any of the official Channel Line-Up Guides they issue monthly (in Access Magazine or the Programming Newsletter or in their website).... Some were added as fillers after the MPEG 2 HD channels were removed last month...

So my thought (and hope) is that they can easily remove the infomercial channel on 74 (or move it) in order to accommodate the TF-HD addition they've announced for Ch. 74.... We'll see soon enough....

I do agree that the channel number selected is puzzling (unless it's related to the MPEG 2 issue)....

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 02:28 AM

The channels between 71 and 98 are generally all SD paid infomercial channels (not national "networks") which DTV does not acknowledge or list in any of the official Channel Line-Up Guides they issue monthly (in Access Magazine or the Programming Newsletter or in their website).... Some were added as fillers after the MPEG 2 HD channels were removed last month...

So my thought (and hope) is that they can easily remove the infomercial channel on 74 (or move it) in order to accommodate the TF-HD addition they've announced for Ch. 74.... We'll see soon enough....

I do agree that the channel number selected is puzzling (unless it's related to the MPEG 2 issue)....


We already have Telefutura HD. Its on channel 408 and you need DirecTV Más to watch it. Some stupid summer intern put in 74 though and nobody caught the typo. It will never be on channel 74. There will never be MPEG-2 HD channels ever again on DirecTV, they're 100% MPEG-4 now.

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 01:20 PM

We already have Telefutura HD. Its on channel 408 and you need DirecTV Más to watch it. Some stupid summer intern put in 74 though and nobody caught the typo. It will never be on channel 74. There will never be MPEG-2 HD channels ever again on DirecTV, they're 100% MPEG-4 now.

The channel number has nothing to do with the delivery method.

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 10:21 PM

We already have Telefutura HD. Its on channel 408 and you need DirecTV Más to watch it. Some stupid summer intern put in 74 though and nobody caught the typo. It will never be on channel 74. There will never be MPEG-2 HD channels ever again on DirecTV, they're 100% MPEG-4 now.


The DTV Newsletter does not cover, acknowledge or list any Mas channels.... I get a separate monthly Newsletter for Mas, where TF has always been listed at 408.... This is the first time that TF is listed here (for all non-Mas subscribers) and included as part of DTV's "national" Channel Lineup at 74...

It's hard to understand how the editor(s) would miss such a major error (this is on the cover/front page), given that now all subscribers are being told of this new national HD availability and will be calling DTV if they don't get it...

If you're right (which is very conceivable), the stupid summer intern made 2 errors: 1) he/she grabbed a network belonging to Mas (non-primary satellite) and now put it on the D10/D11/D12 menu and 2) changed its channel location by a factor of over 300..

If not, we definitely want to see it in MPEG 4 HD, not MPEG 2 ... plus the east HD feed to complement the west on 408...

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 01:42 PM

The list says 73 HD networks but is there a way to tell what they actually are on that list ?

I only count 72 ?

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 02:14 PM

BigRedFan, any chance you are in an area with a local TFT channel and the channel number is a typo?

I found these locals in Florida

WAMI-69 Miami
WFTT-50 Tampa
WLZE-65 FT Meyers
WOTF-43 Orlando

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 02:36 PM

Could you guys move LiL talk to other place, the thread about NATIONAL HD channels.
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Posted 10 May 2010 - 08:29 PM

The list says 73 HD networks but is there a way to tell what they actually are on that list ?

I only count 72 ?

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 09:31 PM

BigRedFan, any chance you are in an area with a local TFT channel and the channel number is a typo?

I found these locals in Florida

WAMI-69 Miami
WFTT-50 Tampa
WLZE-65 FT Meyers
WOTF-43 Orlando


The DTV Newsletter is a "national" newsletter reporting ONLY about national networks on DTV and sent out to all DTV subscribers receiving their DTV bill in the mail ... So, whether one lives in a TFT local market or not would not impact the new national HD channel line-up announced in the insert....

If it's a typo, as surmised by the Coca-Cola Kid, then the typo would refer to the national Channel 408 vs. the 74 announced, and not to a local TFT affiliate channel number..... We'll find out soon enough.....

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 09:35 PM

The DTV Newsletter is a "national" newsletter reporting ONLY about national networks on DTV and sent out to all DTV subscribers receiving their DTV bill in the mail ... So, whether one lives in a TFT local market or not would not impact the new national HD channel line-up announced in the insert....

If it's a typo, as surmised by the Coca-Cola Kid, then the typo would refer to the national Channel 408 vs. the 74 announced, and not to a local TFT affiliate channel number..... We'll find out soon enough.....


There's no local stations on channel 74. The FCC reassigned the frequencies for former broadcast (OTA) channels 70-99 to cell phones back in the 80's.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:00 PM

Could you guys move LiL talk to other place, the thread about NATIONAL HD channels.
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DTV's announcement of TeleFutura-HD coming to Channel 74 in their national Programming Newsletter has nothing to do with LiL.... TF-HD is a national network, not a local channel.... The only post I can see here which could tie to LiL is Beerstalker's and he was simply wondering whether the national Channel 74 announcement could've been related to a local channel number typo... But he was responding to the national network announcement, not to any new Lil announcements....

So, if this thread is "about national HD channels" and since TF-HD is a national HD channel, especially one that has been announced by DTV to be added next month to Sixto's "HD Channels Listings", then I would argue that we are both in the correct thread.... Sixto's transponder uplink watch always lets us know when new HD channels are about to go live and we're simply now on the watch for this new one announced, just like many other HD's before this one.... Again, nothing to do with LiL's....

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 12:11 AM

DTV's announcement of TeleFutura-HD coming to Channel 74 in their national Programming Newsletter has nothing to do with LiL.... TF-HD is a national network, not a local channel.... The only post I can see here which could tie to LiL is Beerstalker's and he was simply wondering whether the national Channel 74 announcement could've been related to a local channel number typo... But he was responding to the national network announcement, not to any new Lil announcements....

So, if this thread is "about national HD channels" and since TF-HD is a national HD channel, especially one that has been announced by DTV to be added next month to Sixto's "HD Channels Listings", then I would argue that we are both in the correct thread.... Sixto's transponder uplink watch always lets us know when new HD channels are about to go live and we're simply now on the watch for this new one announced, just like many other HD's before this one.... Again, nothing to do with LiL's....


wrong, Telefutura is an OTA network, just like NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:19 AM

Still analyzing ...
[U][B]SIGNIFICANT[/B] Changes: NEW (added/moved) from [B]2010-05-11[/B] compared to 2010-05-10:[/U]

 NONE



[U][B]SIGNIFICANT[/B] Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-10 compared to [B]2010-05-11[/B]:[/U]

 NONE



[U]MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from [B]2010-05-11[/B] compared to 2010-05-10:[/U]

 9723 *BIOHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9724 *CBSCHD PT D10 ?? 1020

 9725 *FSDHD  PT D10 ?? 1030

 9726 *BRVOHD PT D10 ?? 1040

 9727 *T101HD PT D10 ?? 1050

 9728 *BTNHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9729 *TLCHD  PT D10 ?? 1020

 9730 *NESNHD PT D10 ?? 1030

 9731 *MTVHD  PT D10 ?? 1040

 9732 *NIKeHD PT D10 ?? 1050

 9733 *MGMHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9735 *PLDAHD PT D10 ?? 1030

 9736 *NFLHD  PT D10 ?? 1040

 9737 *MAXeHD PT D10 ?? 1050

 9738 *SMTHHD PT D10 ?? 1010

 9739 *FBNHD  PT D10 ?? 1020

 9740 *FUELHD PT D10 ?? 1030

 9741 *SPDHD  PT D10 ?? 1040

 9742 *CNeHD  PT D10 ?? 1050

 9743 *SyfyHD PT D10 ?? 1010

 9744 *NBAHD  PT D10 ?? 1020

 9745 *FSPTHD PT D10 ?? 1030

 9746 *FSSWHD PT D10 ?? 1040

 9747 *SEDGHD PT D10 ?? 1050

 9748 *TWCHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9749 *NGCHD  PT D10 ?? 1020

 9750 *FOODHD PT D10 ?? 1030

 9751 *SCIHD  PT D10 ?? 1040

 9753 *STZwHD PT D10 ?? 1010

 9754 *NHLHD  PT D10 ?? 1020

 9755 *STZCHD PT D10 ?? 1030

 9757 *FSRMHD PT D10 ?? 1050

 9758 *YESHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9759 *ESNHD  PT D10 ?? 1020

 9760 *SNYHD  PT D10 ?? 1030

 9761 *FXHD   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9762 *TMCeHD PT D10 ?? 1050

 9773 *DSCHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9774 *CSNCHD PT D10 ?? 1020

 9776 *SHOwHD PT D10 ?? 1040

 9777 *TBSHD  PT D10 ?? 1050

 9778 *CSNHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9779 *DISeHD PT D10 ?? 1020

 9780 *VSHD   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9781 *HGTVHD PT D10 ?? 1040

 9782 *CMTHD  PT D10 ?? 1050

 9783 *APLHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9785 *STZeHD PT D10 ?? 1020

 9787 *VH1HD  PT D10 ?? 1040

 9788 *MAXwHD PT D10 ?? 1050

 9789 *USAHD  PT D10 ?? 1010

 9792 *CNBCHD PT D10 ?? 1040



[U]MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-05-10 compared to [B]2010-05-11[/B]:[/U]

 9723 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9724 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9725 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9726 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9727 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9728 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9729 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9730 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9731 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9732 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9733 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9735 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9736 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9737 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9738 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9739 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9740 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9741 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9742 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9743 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9744 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9745 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9746 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9747 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9748 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9749 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9750 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9751 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9753 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9754 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9755 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9757 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9758 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9759 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9760 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9761 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9762 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9773 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9774 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9776 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9777 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9778 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9779 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9780 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1030

 9781 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9782 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9783 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9785 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1020

 9787 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 9788 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1050

 9789 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1010

 9792 *TEST   PT D10 ?? 1040

 

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels

       1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name

       3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel

       4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number

       6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:52 AM

Still analyzing ...

All of today's changes are a direct map of the D10 14 national transponders. If you compare to the D10 map, it's exactly the same, except the Cinema are TEST, and SpikeTV along with transponders 9 and 10 are not mapped yet.

Nothing yet "new" in the data, which would be the two extra D12 transponders.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 07:12 AM

With the testing of D-12 TPN's 103 CA looks like things may finally be starting to HAPPEN:hurah::hurah::hurah:

I suspect D-12 may be "parked" on next TLE!

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 11:23 AM

All identified now. DNS, CNM, NET, RSN, PTM. :)

Cool....thx.

The avs site doesnt count the 2 spanish channels as falling into the nationals group of tbs, tnt etc.

They say they fall into the cbs, abc, nbc, fox group.

Just wondering why they get counted as nationals here in the page 1 list ?

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