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#21 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:12 PM

Let's be careful with the discussion so this thread doesn't get closed again.

HD anticipation goes in the anticipation thread.
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:13 PM

Let's be careful with the discussion so this thread doesn't get closed again.

HD anticipation goes in the anticipation thread.


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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:24 PM

The chart says:
244/1010 - SyFy Channel HD

It should read Syfy.

edit: now fixed....thx.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:38 AM

My initial thought has been that this is all related to prep work for D12, and they're just using the D10 guide stream in the interim.

But this can also be some behind the scenes change for D10, that doesn't make sense to us yet.

I do expect a totally different stream for D12, and will continue to check.


If it's not D12 what could it be? Dish was effectively able to squeeze more per transponder with 8psk. Is it possible that Directv is experimenting with something that would allow them to do the same?
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#25 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:40 AM

If it's not D12 what could it be? Dish was effectively able to squeeze more per transponder with 8psk. Is it possible that Directv is experimenting with something that would allow them to do the same?

That was the thought, or some other change we're not yet aware of.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 09:33 AM

That was the thought, or some other change we're not yet aware of.


To me this development is the most interesting thing going on. Whatever it turns out to be is all to the good. Sure the simple explanation that it is related to D12 is most probable. But I've got my fingers crossed that the mystery is really something they are doing with D10 that will amaze everybody. Bandwidth is what it all boils down to, at some point Directv is going to have to come up with a technological breakthrough to get more out of what they have. Imagine if they find a way to crack the rain fade problem with KA. That would be a real game changer.

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#27 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 09:49 AM

To me this development is the most interesting thing going on. Whatever it turns out to be is all to the good. Sure the simple explanation that it is related to D12 is most probable. But I've got my fingers crossed that the mystery is really something they are doing with D10 that will amaze everybody. Bandwidth is what it all boils down to, at some point Directv is going to have to come up with a technological breakthrough to get more out of what they have. Imagine if they find a way to crack the rain fade problem with KA. That would be a real game changer.

Anticipating what's in the box is usually better than finding out what's inside. :)

Agree 100%. :)
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:59 AM

Any more news on all the test data? Is there still thought it is just the data used to test D12?

#29 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 07:57 AM

Weekly update:
[U][B]SIGNIFICANT[/B] Changes: NEW (added/moved) from [B]2010-02-26[/B] compared to 2010-02-19:[/U]

 NONE



[U][B]SIGNIFICANT[/B] Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-02-19 compared to [B]2010-02-26[/B]:[/U]

 NONE



[U]MINOR Changes: NEW (added/moved) from [B]2010-02-26[/B] compared to 2010-02-19:[/U]

 NONE



[U]MINOR Changes: OLD (removed) from 2010-02-19 compared to [B]2010-02-26[/B]:[/U]

 NONE

 

Notes: 'MINOR Changes' is movement for part-time channels

       1st column is channel number, 2nd column is channel name

       3rd column is FT=Full-Time, PT=Part-time, RM=Remapped from Another Channel

       4th column is Satellite, 5th column is transponder number

       6th column is 'slot' number, 10xx: main, 1700: hold, 0000: unassigned

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 08:05 AM

Any more news on all the test data? Is there still thought it is just the data used to test D12?

There was a change to the *TEST channel data in Doctor J's info from 2/24.

All of the *TEST channels now have a # associated with them. The actual data is in the format ... for 9789: "tv:4260.ch".

There's 70, D10 has 70, D12 should have 80.
[B][U]Name[/U][/B] [B][U]Channel[/U][/B] [B][U]Transponder[/U][/B] [B][U]Satellite[/U][/B]  [B][U]Description[/U][/B]
*TEST	9723	10	 D10 @103W	1930
*TEST	9724	10	 D10 @103W	2037
*TEST	9725	10	 D10 @103W	2042
*TEST	9726	10	 D10 @103W	2242
*TEST	9727	10	 D10 @103W	2247
*TEST	9728	11	 D10 @103W	2621
*TEST	9729	11	 D10 @103W	2248
*TEST	9730	11	 D10 @103W	2250
*TEST	9731	11	 D10 @103W	2254
*TEST	9732	11	 D10 @103W	2471
*TEST	9733	12	 D10 @103W	2041
*TEST	9734	12	 D10 @103W	3247
*TEST	9735	12	 D10 @103W	3287
*TEST	9736	12	 D10 @103W	3322
*TEST	9737	12	 D10 @103W	3324
*TEST	9738	13	 D10 @103W	2993
*TEST	9739	13	 D10 @103W	3336
*TEST	9740	13	 D10 @103W	3340
*TEST	9741	13	 D10 @103W	3341
*TEST	9742	13	 D10 @103W	3342
*TEST	9743	14	 D10 @103W	2048
*TEST	9744	14	 D10 @103W	3343
*TEST	9745	14	 D10 @103W	3346
*TEST	9746	14	 D10 @103W	3354
*TEST	9747	14	 D10 @103W	3478
*TEST	9748	15	 D10 @103W	3166
*TEST	9749	15	 D10 @103W	3479
*TEST	9750	15	 D10 @103W	3480
*TEST	9751	15	 D10 @103W	3481
*TEST	9752	15	 D10 @103W	3482
*TEST	9753	16	 D10 @103W	2347
*TEST	9754	16	 D10 @103W	3483
*TEST	9755	16	 D10 @103W	3484
*TEST	9756	16	 D10 @103W	3485
*TEST	9757	16	 D10 @103W	3498
*TEST	9758	17	 D10 @103W	3429
*TEST	9759	17	 D10 @103W	3499
*TEST	9760	17	 D10 @103W	3588
*TEST	9761	17	 D10 @103W	3524
*TEST	9762	17	 D10 @103W	3525
*TEST	9763	18	 D10 @103W	2355
*TEST	9764	18	 D10 @103W	3526
*TEST	9765	18	 D10 @103W	3527
*TEST	9766	18	 D10 @103W	3528
*TEST	9767	18	 D10 @103W	3529
*TEST	9768	19	 D10 @103W	3641
*TEST	9769	19	 D10 @103W	3530
*TEST	9770	19	 D10 @103W	3577
*TEST	9771	19	 D10 @103W	3578
*TEST	9772	19	 D10 @103W	3579
*TEST	9773	20	 D10 @103W	2443
*TEST	9774	20	 D10 @103W	3580
*TEST	9775	20	 D10 @103W	3581
*TEST	9776	20	 D10 @103W	3590
*TEST	9777	20	 D10 @103W	3591
*TEST	9778	21	 D10 @103W	3642
*TEST	9779	21	 D10 @103W	3592
*TEST	9780	21	 D10 @103W	3593
*TEST	9781	21	 D10 @103W	3606
*TEST	9782	21	 D10 @103W	3607
*TEST	9783	22	 D10 @103W	3643
*TEST	9785	22	 D10 @103W	3608
*TEST	9786	22	 D10 @103W	3609
*TEST	9787	22	 D10 @103W	3681
*TEST	9788	22	 D10 @103W	3612
*TEST	9789	23	 D10 @103W	4260
*TEST	9790	23	 D10 @103W	3613
*TEST	9791	23	 D10 @103W	3616
*TEST	9792	23	 D10 @103W	3617
*TEST	9793	23	 D10 @103W	3618

Edited by Sixto, 26 February 2010 - 08:19 AM.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 08:32 AM

There was a change to the *TEST channel data in Doctor J's info from 2/24.

All of the *TEST channels now have a # associated with them. The actual data is in the format ... for 9789: "tv:4260.ch".

There's 70, D10 has 70, D12 should have 80


So what do you think that means? Are these Test channels just placeholders for when D12 comes online or is Directv looking at squeezing more channels on the existing sats? Or could this be the precursor for the "Netflix"-like service thats been talked about with these "channels" that would push content onto the receivers?


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Posted 26 February 2010 - 08:40 AM

So what do you think that means? Are these Test channels just placeholders for when D12 comes online or is Directv looking at squeezing more channels on the existing sats? Or could this be the precursor for the "Netflix"-like service thats been talked about with these "channels" that would push content onto the receivers?

Possibly any of the above, but seems more likely related to D12.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 08:45 AM

Possibly any of the above, but seems more likely related to D12.


Thanks, I was just wondering why Directv would put up placeholders for D12 on the D10 sat. Have they done this in the past when D11 was up and testing?


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Posted 26 February 2010 - 08:47 AM

Thanks, I was just wondering why Directv would put up placeholders for D12 on the D10 sat. Have they done this in the past when D11 was up and testing?

No, but D10 and D12 do share an orbital position. Just not sure yet.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 09:17 AM

My gut feeling is that these "channels" are just placeholders in the data and do not represent real bitstreams (yet). As Sixto notes, D10 shares the 103º slot where D12 will be parked operationally, but so too does Spaceway 1 (which is conspicuously empty these days). Once the data placeholders are updated to reference something besides D10 (such as D12 or SW1), we'll have a better idea of what they really represent in terms of content.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 09:39 AM

Lefty makes a good point, that I should keep re-enforcing. This is just guide data, not real channel data. There's no indication yet of any content.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 09:59 AM

Lefty makes a good point, that I should keep re-enforcing. This is just guide data, not real channel data. There's no indication yet of any content.

Except the indication that they will be adding 70 + hd channels, so now people can stop worrying if D12 will add anything or not :)

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 10:07 AM

Except the indication that they will be adding 70 + hd channels, so now people can stop worrying if D12 will add anything or not :)

Not sure yet. Is this just the re-mapping of D10 for some reason, or the mapping of the first 70 on D12. Probably D12.

It is interesting that the data/description changed within the last few days.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 10:11 AM

Except the indication that they will be adding 70 + hd channels, so now people can stop worrying if D12 will add anything or not :)


Just playing Devil's advocate, those could be 70 PPV.:lol:

What has people worried is the uncertainty of what will be added. While I hope that 90% of the people will be happy, I will admit that I am not getting my hopes up at this point like I did with D11. While I agree that D11 added a lot to those without local channels, I, myself, did not gain a lot from all that available bandwidth. My anticipation of D12 is tempered in so much that I'll believe the "200 channel hype" when I see it on my receiver.


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Posted 26 February 2010 - 10:20 AM

Thanks for all the info, Only time will tell what exactly is going on with all the information you guys are finding. Its fun trying to figure out what all the data means though.

I'll save my anticipation for another thread. But 70 new HD channels (locals in there too) would be one heck of a Festivus!




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