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Congress may delay distant net reauth for another 15 days


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#1 OFFLINE   FTA Michael

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 10:28 AM

The old extension to SHVERA is set to expire Feb. 28, aka this Sunday. Without some kind of authorization, Dish and DirecTV won't be able to carry any distant broadcast channels to their subscribers.

According to Broadcasting & Cable, the new version of the bill is called STELA (the Satellite Television Extension and Localism Act), and I guess they're having trouble making time to talk about it. Either that, or lawmakers are doing Brando imitations and giggling too hard to concentrate.

John Eggerton, who seems to be the only person keeping track, says that yesterday (Feb. 22) Congress was going to try to give itself a 15-day extension by unanimous consent, but did they? Even he doesn't know.

Go read it all: http://www.broadcast...ellite_Bill.php

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 12:01 PM

The old extension to SHVERA is set to expire Feb. 28, aka this Sunday. Without some kind of authorization, Dish and DirecTV won't be able to carry any local broadcast channels to their subscribers.

Go read it all: http://www.broadcast...ellite_Bill.php


That's a distortion... it does NOT affect subscribers who receive their LIL's only those who receive DNS Network feeds would lose their signals. That's bad enough but the majority of clients would be unaffected.
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#3 OFFLINE   FTA Michael

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 10:01 PM

John Eggerton, the hardest working man in Washington, says that the Senate is now looking at a 30-day extension.

http://www.broadcast...ite_License.php
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 05:10 AM

Thanks for keeping us up to date on legislative issues. Even though I've been back on cable for a while, I still have my dish(es) proudly and firmly mounted on a pole out in the south forty, but I'm still very interested in what's going on with sat.

Speaking of cable, my local Comcast just upped its HD channel count to 72, but still no MSNBC HD. I guess QVC HD and E! HD are considered more important than (not then) a channel that carries actual important programming such as "Way To Early" with Willie Giest.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:49 PM

Something is wrong with the arithmetic (30 days after Feb 28 is not March 28) but there are recent reports of a longer than 15 day delay

http://www.broadcast...ite_License.php
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 08:36 PM

I been all over this stuff. I called my Senator's office the last few days and the guy I usually talk to was out. I plan to call tomorrow. Anything I find out I WILL be posting here. I been waiting and waiting to see what direction they were going to go with for LIL and for DNS feeds. Quit delaying it and decide already. Its getting out of hand with the delays.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 01:22 PM

The Senate did not pass the reauthorization. According to John Eggerton, Jim Bunning (R-Kentucky) wouldn't go along with unanimous consent for the package including the STELA postponement because of other stuff in the package.

What will happen Monday, March 1? I don't know, but at least I have a link to the story (mobile version): http://mobile.multic...n_Extension.php

PS, Sorry for my earlier LiL confusion. SHVIA and SHVERA sound so much alike! :) This is about _distant_ networks, not local.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 01:45 PM

It drives me around the bend that 1 Senator can prevent the other 99 from voting. These aren't "rules of order" rather it is anarchy.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 06:32 PM

Im gonna be ticked if I lose my DNS feeds over this crap. It wass supposed to be sorted out by the end of last year. Quit putting it off and deal with it already. This is stupid.

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 08:29 AM

Im gonna be ticked if I lose my DNS feeds over this crap. It wass supposed to be sorted out by the end of last year. Quit putting it off and deal with it already. This is stupid.

Your tax dollars at work. :rolleyes:

The folks on the committee to get this done should be ashamed.
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Posted 27 February 2010 - 09:23 AM

This has got to be the stupidest rule ever, if I want to pay for the feeds from wherever, why shouldn't I be able to?

I can subscribe to newspapers anywhere in the world and they will send them to me. I can log on to the internet and check the news anywhere in the world also.

It is no different than saying for instance, you can not buy any products outside your home area, that would be the end of the majority of online ordering wouldn't it? That would never fly.

Here is another example, there are several local channels that my local cable provider can give me, but directv can not because the channels are classified as being in a different market, WTF?

Just another instance of big brother telling you what you can and can not do.

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 09:31 AM

Well here is the part that burns my bacon.

http://thehill.com/b...ups-on-the-hill

The companies' licenses to deliver distant network affiliate TV signals to viewers will expire at midnight on Sunday. A measure to extend the licenses was part of a proposal to extend unemployment benefits and other expiring tax provisions.


Ok, so what does unemployment have to do with satellite TV and why was that part of the bill?

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 09:41 AM

This has got to be the stupidest rule ever, if I want to pay for the feeds from wherever, why shouldn't I be able to?

I can subscribe to newspapers anywhere in the world and they will send them to me. I can log on to the internet and check the news anywhere in the world also.

Let me put this the simplest way.

If you want to get the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Chicago Tribune delivered to you, you contact each company and they can mail those newspapers to you.

If you do not want to wait a couple of days for a newspaper, you could go to a newstand which may have the papers available. You could even go to each newspapers' website and get the news, provided you agree with their terms and conditions.

If you even want to watch local newscasts on channels generally unavailable to you, you can view them over the internet.

However, are you paying each station to deliver feeds to you? Including feeds of programming that are copyright-restricted, such as network programming?

That is where the disconnect in this whole argument.

Just another instance of big brother telling you what you can and can not do.

Well, in this case, if the government decides to let the market run its course and as "big brother" does nothing, distant network feeds should no longer be available. How is it "big brother" when the government doesn't meddle?

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 09:42 AM

Ok, so what does unemployment have to do with satellite TV and why was that part of the bill?

Back in both 1999 (SHVIA) and 2004 (SHVERA), these bills were tied to the big budget bills (omnibus appropriations) and passed. Why should this be any different?

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 10:24 AM

Anyone know if this will affect RV users getting the DNS? My dad gets them in his RV.

Thanks

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 10:29 AM

Technically, it is supposed to affect everyone. However, it appears that many legislators have signed a letter addressed to DirecTV and Dish Network asking for the status quo to be maintained until they can pass a bill and get it signed into law.

All it would take is for one station group to sue for copyright violations...

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 10:49 AM

Anyone know if this will affect RV users getting the DNS? My dad gets them in his RV.

Without congressional action, DNS would cease to exist altogether and RV users would be forced to rely on OTA or changing to a conventional residential account with appropriate address changes.

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 10:54 AM

Just another instance of big brother telling you what you can and can not do.

Just another instance of something very much like a regulated monopoly. Regulated monopolies are often necessary to the survival of a service in a particular market.

Other examples of regulated monopolies are wireline phone services, electricity, gas, water, cable television and garbage services.

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 10:55 AM

Without congressional action, DNS would cease to exist altogether and RV users would be forced to rely on OTA or changing to a conventional residential account with appropriate address changes.

Perhaps they should attach the legislation to the one that includes their pay raises....it'll get done overnight. :D
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Posted 27 February 2010 - 11:04 AM

Perhaps they should attach the legislation to the one that includes their pay raises....it'll get done overnight. :D



I doubt it, they gives themselves raises anytime they please as it is.
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