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#21 OFFLINE   jefbal99

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:43 AM

Are the Philadelphia channels (SD) on 101 spot-beamed or conus?


I believe all locals are Spot Beams except the DNS channels. You'd need to compare the TP they are on to the TP decoder.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:44 AM

Are the Philadelphia channels (SD) on 101 spot-beamed or conus?


Decoder table have color marks for spot beam transponder; would you take your tpn numbers with PA SD channels and look up in the table ?

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 11:00 AM

Are the Philadelphia channels (SD) on 101 spot-beamed or conus?


I just did the leg work for ya...

Network 658 is Philly, their SD locals are on TPs 4 and 12, both are listed in the decoder as Spot Beams.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 02:41 PM

I just did the leg work for ya...

Network 658 is Philly, their SD locals are on TPs 4 and 12, both are listed in the decoder as Spot Beams.


He own you a glass of cognac now ;).

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 02:45 PM

He own you a glass of cognac now ;).


I'd rather a nice 18 yr single malt scotch, neat with a cigar :)
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:03 PM

Thank you so much gentlemen. Now next question, are the Phila. HD's spot beam also? How long has there been such a proliferation of locals being spot-beamed? I don't believe they were always that way. What is the approx. coverage area (in miles diameter) of a spot beamed signal?

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 07:25 AM

Thank you so much gentlemen. Now next question, are the Phila. HD's spot beam also? How long has there been such a proliferation of locals being spot-beamed? I don't believe they were always that way. What is the approx. coverage area (in miles diameter) of a spot beamed signal?


All Local into Local is spot beams. You gotta do the leg work yourself this time. Look in the networklist sheet and find the Philly Network number, then open the roll your own sheet and find the satellite and transponder they are on. Open the Network decoder and cross reference the data you have.

Sport beams are different sizes, depending on how the bird is configured, where they are pointed, and power. With the Spaceways, they have a different type of antenna that can change the size of a beam on the fly, be as small as needed or as large as needed.

There are some maps of the spot beams around here somewhere, but I don't remember where
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Posted 10 March 2010 - 10:16 AM

Give jeff "18 yr single malt scotch" glass finally ! :D

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:38 AM

So.... with the transition of HD channels away from 119 to the KAs... I see spots and the Sonic channels left on 119. As a football tailgater who gets no spots from 119, is the AT9 LNB sidecar that critical anymore? it's my backup dish that I take to ballgames and the sidecar arm has broken off. Still use some SD set-top boxes on RV along with one HD flat panel. Not sure what is really left for conus on the 110 and 119. Trying to conclude the sidecar is not needed rather than repair or buy slimline 5. this may or may not be the proper thread for this. Thanks in advance...
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 01:53 PM

So.... with the transition of HD channels away from 119 to the KAs... I see spots and the Sonic channels left on 119. As a football tailgater who gets no spots from 119, is the AT9 LNB sidecar that critical anymore? it's my backup dish that I take to ballgames and the sidecar arm has broken off. Still use some SD set-top boxes on RV along with one HD flat panel. Not sure what is really left for conus on the 110 and 119. Trying to conclude the sidecar is not needed rather than repair or buy slimline 5. this may or may not be the proper thread for this. Thanks in advance...


Last KU MPEG2 HD channels on 110 going away at end of the month.
No significant channels for standard conus on 110/119. A few sonic and Spanish packages on 119 (except certain LIL's) as you noted.

AT-9 will be OK for temporary service on 99/101/103.
Guide issues and drops in DVR scheduling will occur after a couple of days with the AT-9 and no 119. Some 103 guide info comes in from 119 (duplicates , so if no 103 channels tuned, only 99 comes in and no backup from 119).
After the 6 MPEG2 HD channels (70's and 80's) gone 110 will be empty.
No one (that I know) has given us an idea about the plans for the 3 110 transponders.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:00 PM

aw.... I forgot guide info data. That could be an issue when you are tailgating with friends and the pop-ups start while you are watching your favorite game(s). So I may need to make repairs... or find a new sidecar arm. Thanks for thinking of things I wouldn't have thought of.
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 05:57 PM

or jsut buy a new head from solid signal or ebay
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 08:44 PM

Ok, I'll bite... can you put a slimline 5 head on an AT9 dish?
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 09:08 PM

Ok, I'll bite... can you put a slimline 5 head on an AT9 dish?

"may not be the proper thread for this. Thanks in advance..."
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 09:18 AM

aw.... I forgot guide info data. That could be an issue when you are tailgating with friends and the pop-ups start while you are watching your favorite game(s). So I may need to make repairs... or find a new sidecar arm. Thanks for thinking of things I wouldn't have thought of.


Won't be a problem unless you are running continuously for > 3days.
Tailgating as I know it would not be a problem.
That being said and using an AT-9 for tailgating and later an AU-9, I much prefer the AU-9. A tad smaller, less fragile and easier to assemble/disassemble!
E-bay would be a great source for a cheap AU-9.

Enjoy!!

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 08:00 PM

All the TPN Data in Post #1 has been updated to 3/20/10.

As always - we need to thank Doctor j for his time and dedication in keeping us current.


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Posted 20 March 2010 - 08:21 PM

Won't be a problem unless you are running continuously for > 3days.
Tailgating as I know it would not be a problem.
That being said and using an AT-9 for tailgating and later an AU-9, I much prefer the AU-9. A tad smaller, less fragile and easier to assemble/disassemble!
E-bay would be a great source for a cheap AU-9.

Enjoy!!

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Yes, I agree. I have done both. So, if I tailgate Friday, Saturday, Sunday, then missing guide data from a missing 119 would show itself. I'll leave this thread at that.... If I need more info, I'll start a new thread in the proper section. My thanks for those helping to understand what's left on 110 and 119.
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 06:47 AM

I am new at this but have heard that there are ways to get local channels from other cities. I have a rental property in Detroit area where I can have satelite installed, then without notifying the dish/directv have it moved to cincinnati after it is programmed with the detroit locals. Is this something that I can do and be able to get my detroit locals in cincinnati. I understand it has to do with the different spot beams and other factors and was hoping someone could give me a better idea if this would work based on the different factors in receiving local channels. I am hoping to get the Detroit HD channels in Cincinnati with either Dish or Directv. THank You!

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 09:20 AM

You better take your post out and start your own thread. Actually I recall seen here a few with same question.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 11:18 AM

I am new at this but have heard that there are ways to get local channels from other cities. I have a rental property in Detroit area where I can have satelite installed, then without notifying the dish/directv have it moved to cincinnati after it is programmed with the detroit locals. Is this something that I can do and be able to get my detroit locals in cincinnati. I understand it has to do with the different spot beams and other factors and was hoping someone could give me a better idea if this would work based on the different factors in receiving local channels. I am hoping to get the Detroit HD channels in Cincinnati with either Dish or Directv. THank You!


This would be against the terms of service for both companies and could get your account cancelled. It is also against the rules to talk about this here.

I'm not sure about Dish Network, but I highly doubt DirecTVs spotbeams would reach that far so it most likely wouldn't work anyway.




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