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HR2x and R22: 0x03A8 Discussion


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#1 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 08:31 PM

This is the discussion thread for all MPEG-4 DVRs, software version 0x03A8.

Release notes: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=173490

Issues Only thread: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=173488

Please feel free to discuss all aspects of this release in this thread. However, while a certain amount of ranting is expected, forum rules are still in effect and we ask that you refrain from personal attacks and statements you cannot defend.
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#2 OFFLINE   MizzouTiger

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:34 AM

Well, I don't see it mentioned in the release notes, but I sure hope this version fixes the frequent audio dropouts/video macroblocking/video freezing that I have been experiencing way too often when viewing recorded material.
<p>HR44-700 Toshiba 55SV670U | HDMI to Denon AVR-1909| Native On | All Resolutions Selected | DD On | DECA | SWiM | Harmony One | HR24-100 Philips 37PFL5322D/37 | HDMI to TV | Native on | All resolutions Selected | DD Off | DECA | SWiM | Harmony 880 | HR24-100 Sony KDL40V2500| HDMI to TV | Digital Optical Audio out to Yamaha HTR-5490| Native On | All Resolutions selected | DD | DECA | SWiM | Harmony 880

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:38 AM

Well, I don't see it mentioned in the release notes, but I sure hope this version fixes the frequent audio dropouts/video macroblocking/video freezing that I have been experiencing way too often when viewing recorded material.


On both of your HR20's? I have a HR20-700 and haven't seen this problem at all.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:48 AM

Besides some great MRV tuning, looks like DirecTV fulfilled another of our Wish List items with this release. "Playlist Sort Order: Alphabetical sorting of folders now chronological within folder" nicely addresses this long-standing request:

Always sort shows within folders by date, even though the PLAYLIST may be sorted sorted differently.

I just tested, and if I sort my playlist "A-Z", shows within folders are sorted by "Date (new)". If I select GROUP play, the oldest episode plays back first, as expected.

Nice job, guys! :)
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 08:50 AM

Well, I don't see it mentioned in the release notes, but I sure hope this version fixes the frequent audio dropouts/video macroblocking/video freezing that I have been experiencing way too often when viewing recorded material.


Only on recorded material? Maybe defragging the hard drive would help.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:44 AM

Only on recorded material? Maybe defragging the hard drive would help.


Just how do you do that? A hidden menu choice somewhere?

There's a choice somewhere that re-formats the disk, but that's pretty drastic.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:53 AM

The release notes only mention the features that were added in 0x395 relative to 0x368. Does anyone know what is in this release? Am I missing it somewhere? My hope is that they cleaned up some code to fix the speed issues that 0x395 unfortunately reintroduced to my system.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:01 AM

There are no new features, this is a maintenance release.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:08 AM

There are no new features, this is a maintenance release.


I've been hoping for a "no new features"/maintenance release that worked on speed only for a while. It sounds like they cleaned up some MRV issues. Any chance they cleaned up some other code from the past release that seemed to slow down quite a few people's boxes?

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:13 AM

I've been hoping for a "no new features"/maintenance release that worked on speed only for a while. It sounds like they cleaned up some MRV issues. Any chance they cleaned up some other code from the past release that seemed to slow down quite a few people's boxes?


There were a few things worked on under the hood, but primarily this release makes MRV significantly better.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:15 AM

There were a few things worked on under the hood, but primarily this release makes MRV significantly better.

Should I send an announcement of this version out to LENO to put into HEADLINES....:D
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#12 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:16 AM

Just how do you do that? A hidden menu choice somewhere?

There's a choice somewhere that re-formats the disk, but that's pretty drastic.


In general, there is no need for this .. BUT ..

To run the hard drive checks, please follow these steps:

  • reboot STB via Menu -> Parental, Fav's & Setup -> System Setup -> Reset -> Restart Receiver
  • when they see "Running receiver self-check" press select
  • You will see "Entering Diagnostics Mode..."
  • select Advanced Tests Menu -> Hard Drive utilities -> Surface Test
Warning: This process could take several hours to complete. You may want to run it overnight.

The good news is that every attempt is made to save programming. This is less destructive than a reformat all and could provide you with a more stable system if you are having problems that appear to be related to the hard drive.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:18 AM

It is possible that there are some fixes that would affect speed, I think we'll need some reports from the field before we can say.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:40 AM

In general, there is no need for this .. BUT ..

To run the hard drive checks, please follow these steps:

  • reboot STB via Menu -> Parental, Fav's & Setup -> System Setup -> Reset -> Restart Receiver
  • when they see "Running receiver self-check" press select
  • You will see "Entering Diagnostics Mode..."
  • select Advanced Tests Menu -> Hard Drive utilities -> Surface Test
Warning: This process could take several hours to complete. You may want to run it overnight.

The good news is that every attempt is made to save programming. This is less destructive than a reformat all and could provide you with a more stable system if you are having problems that appear to be related to the hard drive.

FWIW: they is NO WAY now to reformat a drive.
Should one try by: rebooting and holding down the record & down arrow buttons, what will happen is a disk scan that takes EVEN LONGER than the ones above.
The long tests above took about 90 mins for a 300 GB drive and this longer scan took over 2.5 hours.
No recordings or settings were lost here while doing this longer test.
[I actually wanted to reformat the drive, so was prepared for it, only to find out I can no longer reformat, which was also verified by a call to DirecTV].
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:44 AM

On both of your HR20's? I have a HR20-700 and haven't seen this problem at all.


No, it's just been on the HR20-700. I'm really starting to wonder, based on posts in other threads, if it doesn't have something to do with DD5.1 over HDMI. My other HR20(the -100) is connected via HDMI directly to the television and has DD turned off and have not really seen this issue with it.
<p>HR44-700 Toshiba 55SV670U | HDMI to Denon AVR-1909| Native On | All Resolutions Selected | DD On | DECA | SWiM | Harmony One | HR24-100 Philips 37PFL5322D/37 | HDMI to TV | Native on | All resolutions Selected | DD Off | DECA | SWiM | Harmony 880 | HR24-100 Sony KDL40V2500| HDMI to TV | Digital Optical Audio out to Yamaha HTR-5490| Native On | All Resolutions selected | DD | DECA | SWiM | Harmony 880

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:47 AM

In general, there is no need for this .. BUT ..

To run the hard drive checks, please follow these steps:

  • reboot STB via Menu -> Parental, Fav's & Setup -> System Setup -> Reset -> Restart Receiver
  • when they see "Running receiver self-check" press select
  • You will see "Entering Diagnostics Mode..."
  • select Advanced Tests Menu -> Hard Drive utilities -> Surface Test
Warning: This process could take several hours to complete. You may want to run it overnight.

The good news is that every attempt is made to save programming. This is less destructive than a reformat all and could provide you with a more stable system if you are having problems that appear to be related to the hard drive.


I ran the surface scan test last Friday night. Started it before going to bed. The next morning, had live picture back on the TV. Didn't see any messages or errors, so I assume that the scan didn't find any issues with my hard drive - which I originally thought might be the cause of my viewing problems with recorded material.
<p>HR44-700 Toshiba 55SV670U | HDMI to Denon AVR-1909| Native On | All Resolutions Selected | DD On | DECA | SWiM | Harmony One | HR24-100 Philips 37PFL5322D/37 | HDMI to TV | Native on | All resolutions Selected | DD Off | DECA | SWiM | Harmony 880 | HR24-100 Sony KDL40V2500| HDMI to TV | Digital Optical Audio out to Yamaha HTR-5490| Native On | All Resolutions selected | DD | DECA | SWiM | Harmony 880

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:18 PM

When are the H* series going to receive the update that includes MRV? Still waiting on it for my one H21. Any ideas?

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:21 PM

When are the H* series going to receive the update that includes MRV? Still waiting on it for my one H21. Any ideas?

When you're on the list. It spooled last night also, so... "soon".
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:24 PM

There were a few things worked on under the hood, but primarily this release makes MRV significantly better.


So maybe a bridged wireless G setup will play recorded HD shows beyond 5 ft from the router?:)

I would like to hookup the DVR's back up to the network wireless.


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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:25 PM

So maybe a bridged wireless G setup will play recorded HD shows beyond 5 ft from the router?:)

I would like to hookup the DVR's back up to the network wireless.

"well if they don't", it's no longer a software issue, and is a networking problem.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:54 PM

No, it's just been on the HR20-700. I'm really starting to wonder, based on posts in other threads, if it doesn't have something to do with DD5.1 over HDMI. My other HR20(the -100) is connected via HDMI directly to the television and has DD turned off and have not really seen this issue with it.


OK, it might be a PITA but to eliminate all the other parts of the puzzle I'd recommend swapping the locations between the two HR20's and see if the problem follows. If it follows I'd recommend having DirecTV replace the failing HR20.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 03 March 2010 - 01:10 PM

So maybe a bridged wireless G setup will play recorded HD shows beyond 5 ft from the router?:)

I would like to hookup the DVR's back up to the network wireless.


Not DECA, so if it works .. great .. if it doesn't .. great .. MRV via wireless G is not really high on the list of things that will be fixed.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 02:27 PM

FWIW: they is NO WAY now to reformat a drive.


I thought the "RESET EVERYTHING" in the RESET menu also reformatted the drive.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 02:59 PM

I thought the "RESET EVERYTHING" in the RESET menu also reformatted the drive.

That will "clear" the settings and the drive, but the last time I did a reset everything, it didn't take long enough to do much more than wipe a file on the drive. Even a PC quick format takes longer.
Back when you could reformat, it was quite common to do a reset everything [cleared the chips] and still have problems until you then reformatted the drive.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:27 PM

My HR21-100. 200 both drop audio for months. But NOT just recorded videos.. Live as well...




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