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#2221 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:26 PM

RCN and Blue Ridge do not carry TCN.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

Wow... so much post,speculation,sub cost,disagreements,good vs bad etc etc etc..... this is becoming an anticipation thread which would of happen if not for the sub cost. Plus Comcrap won't play nicely knowing Directv is the competition.

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#2223 OFFLINE   MonyMony

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

The area is pretty heavily cable saturated and I think most systems have the channel.


Not quite... Here in Cecil County Maryland, the local Comcast carries CSN Mid Atlantic but we fall under the blackout rules for Philadelphia. So it is impossible to see any Philadelphia games that are carried by CSN Philly on satellite or cable (directly on CSN Philly, NHL CI, etc.). At least those in DE, NJ and PA have the option to get the channel via cable regardless of how bad that option is. No option at all in MD and we are still blacked out.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:13 PM

Not quite... Here in Cecil County Maryland, the local Comcast carries CSN Mid Atlantic but we fall under the blackout rules for Philadelphia. So it is impossible to see any Philadelphia games that are carried by CSN Philly on satellite or cable (directly on CSN Philly, NHL CI, etc.). At least those in DE, NJ and PA have the option to get the channel via cable regardless of how bad that option is. No option at all in MD and we are still blacked out.

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I don't consider any part of Maryland the Philadelphia area. Too bad you are blacked out.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:19 PM

These present blackout rules are so archaic !!! They need to be changed ASAP.A couple of years ago I phoned into that NHL show on the NHLN that comes from NYC.Buttman was on answering questions & when the screener asked me what I wanted to ask him,he said that he wasn't taking questions on blackouts !!

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

These present blackout rules are so archaic !!! They need to be changed ASAP.A couple of years ago I phoned into that NHL show on the NHLN that comes from NYC.Buttman was on answering questions & when the screener asked me what I wanted to ask him,he said that he wasn't taking questions on blackouts !!


You got blacked out on blackouts?
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:22 PM

I did ! <LOL>
I just want to know why the NHLN has a different blackout radius than Center Ice ? That's total BS !!!

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:07 AM

I did ! <LOL>
I just want to know why the NHLN has a different blackout radius than Center Ice ? That's total BS !!!


So true....same problem here. Most likely nobody at the NHL has taken the time to go over the two different blackout maps, and done what is necessary to match them up. It's ridiculous.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:44 AM

I don't consider any part of Maryland the Philadelphia area. Too bad you are blacked out.


Me either. All of our local channels are Baltimore. I called Comcast once about why they carry CSN Mid Atlantic instead of CSN Philly and was told they basically redistribute the Harford County (Bel Air, MD) feed throughout Cecil County. Even Neilson considers Cecil part of the Baltimore Market so for Comcast/Flyers to claim this area as their territory is absurd. Good way to restrict your fan base.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:59 AM

My WAG on this issue and similar issues around the country is a new source of revenue for teams will open up via internet viewing. These areas will receive opportunities to have viewing with a premium payment. Baseball has begun to do something similar with Yankees in their territory. It is not the same, but you can see the idea percolating.

Much like water permeating the walls of your basement over the years, so true for money and sports. It will find the weak spots and opportunities and exploit it!

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 08:20 AM

My WAG on this issue and similar issues around the country is a new source of revenue for teams will open up via internet viewing.


Internet viewing for MLB has been around for years. They use the same blackout rules that everyone else does. How do you see internet viewing making it any different than it is now?
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:57 AM

There are instances where you can pay a fee and see in market games on Extra Innings. It is facilitated through cable contracts and RSN rights.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:42 AM

There are instances where you can pay a fee and see in market games on Extra Innings. It is facilitated through cable contracts and RSN rights.


Who is doing that?
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:48 AM

YES did it with Cablevision and TimeWarner in Yankees territory. I thought I saw another team do it too.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:28 AM

YES did it with Cablevision and TimeWarner in Yankees territory. I thought I saw another team do it too.


To e clear, you are talking about MLB.tv? Which normally has stricter blackout rules than even EI. They don't even allow local live streaming of games.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:31 AM

To e clear, you are talking about MLB.tv? Which normally has stricter blackout rules than even EI. They don't even allow local live streaming of games.


I looked it up. All they are doing is streaming broadcasts people are already getting from YES linearly. That is not a change to the blackout rules. If you don't have access to the games via the YES channel, you don't get the streaming.

That would not change anything blackout wise. And does not change mlb.tv. This is just allowing streaming of the channel.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:49 AM

What I was trying to suggest is a solution could emerge where you could piggyback that type of in market arrangement.

I guess, in simple terms, if there is money to take, then the leagues, teams and/or RSN will figure a way to get it.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:06 PM

What I was trying to suggest is a solution could emerge where you could piggyback that type of in market arrangement.

I guess, in simple terms, if there is money to take, then the leagues, teams and/or RSN will figure a way to get it.


I have little faith in them. The MLB.tv blackout of local games is proof that they have no idea. And that has been true for years. Who are the most likely customers who want to watch the local team? The local customers. And with baseball, most interest is very local. So they cut off a whole segment of the market with MLB.tv, which they own lock stock and barrel.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:23 AM

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:19 AM

I looked it up. All they are doing is streaming broadcasts people are already getting from YES linearly. That is not a change to the blackout rules. If you don't have access to the games via the YES channel, you don't get the streaming.

That would not change anything blackout wise. And does not change mlb.tv. This is just allowing streaming of the channel.


If I recall, two seasons ago the Yankees and the Padres offered in market streaming (for a cost) and it was not tied to receiving YES or 4SD. I believe it was a one season test and was deemed a failure.




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