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#1451 OFFLINE   adkinsjm

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:21 PM

I would be amazed if an installer had inside info that hasn't been divulged here.

What contract is la2philly talking about?

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#1452 ONLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:30 PM

I would be amazed if an installer had inside info that hasn't been divulged here.

What contract is la2philly talking about?


I think he means the contracts they have with fios and the Comcast cable systems have some exclusivity clause.
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#1453 OFFLINE   la24philly

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:53 PM

there seems to be a final contract that comcast has right now that is allowing them to withhold csn from the satellite companies.

It appears that even though the FCC approved the new deal in jan that comcast was allowed to finish out this final contract which is expiring in december.

this is what the directv installer told me today.

december is when this contract ends and directv can put the channel on its lineup.

it will also end CSN and start NBC sports.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:54 PM

there seems to be a final contract that comcast has right now that is allowing them to withhold csn from the satellite companies.

It appears that even though the FCC approved the new deal in jan that comcast was allowed to finish out this final contract which is expiring in december.

this is what the directv installer told me today.

december is when this contract ends and directv can put the channel on its lineup.

it will also end CSN and start NBC sports.


And fox (owner in some CSNs) is okay with this?!?!

#1455 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 09:21 PM

And fox (owner in some CSNs) is okay with this?!?!


also are the cubs, sox, bulls, and blackhawks ok with it as well. They have a high number of games on WGN / WGN sports on the U.

also what about CSS I don't think Charter will like the NBC name.
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#1456 OFFLINE   la24philly

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 09:34 PM

im not speaking for the other CSN networks, im manily speaking for csn philly. but i have believe that if csn philly becoems nbc sports philly in december, plus VS getting renamed jan 2.

Its seems clear as day that comcat / nbc universal is planning to have all of there channels using the nbc sports name

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 05:58 AM

im not speaking for the other CSN networks, im manily speaking for csn philly. but i have believe that if csn philly becoems nbc sports philly in december, plus VS getting renamed jan 2.

Its seems clear as day that comcat / nbc universal is planning to have all of there channels using the nbc sports name


Where is satracer when you need him?

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 08:09 AM

I hope la24philly is right with the pending good fortune for all of us suffering Philadelphia sports fans with Directv. That being said just wondering while you continued to pay for 2 services when Fios became available to you and could have them with CSN Phila. on their system.This is prior to knowing What you learned recently.I know that if we didn,t have CSN Phila. yet and Fios did come into my neck of the township I probably jump .Only because it would give me the sports teams games also system seems better then Comcast which is crap.This would have been the only way I would leave Directv since I refuse to give Comcast any foot back in my door and could not afford 2 services just to get the games.So, I stayed with Directv since 9/06 despite several tries by Comcast to lore me back with their inferior equipment ans service .Which even with perks was no bargain and couldn,t match what I enjoy with Directv.So, here is hoping that our wishes for end of the year bare fruit and if not I still will enjoy having the best service and equipment and picture quality in my view.

#1459 OFFLINE   la24philly

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:48 AM

spaul, I didn't like verizon internet speeds. thats was one of the issues. plus at the time fios didnt have TCN in HD. Plus many people had issues with ther ondemand and all these hidden fees, i didnt want to get into verizon's world

but now with directv offering this special offer, and now knowing they are getting the nbc sports philly im glad i took it. I'm glad i gave up comcast cable, i still kept their internet and phone, and im really thinking about canceling that and jsut have my cell unlimited. comcast of course raised the price for just internet and phone, 77 if i drop the phone its 67 a month, but they have the best internet.

so I'm paying 117 for directv, and comcast internet n phone. which is alot better then paying 190 for comcast triple play. plus i could get rid of the phone and get 10 back

Plus in addition, i got 35 bucks off NHL center ice, originally they only were going to do 15 but i was able to get an additional 20 out of them.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:52 AM

adkinsjm - I'm assuming it'd be corporate suicide for satracer to say anything on this issue beyond, "We're working on it".

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:56 AM

@SPAUL FIOS recently sarted up in my neighborhood and I'm not going to lie, I was very close to jumping ship. in the end (and thanks to the free ST and credits) retention threw at me, I decided to stay with DTV a little while longer and just hope they will get CSN Philly sometime soon.

#1462 OFFLINE   la24philly

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:59 AM

guys this could get interesting. I got an email from Tonya Zanella, customer manager of Direct Sat USA, the company who is in charge of the directv techs in the philly area.

i emailed the president about what the tech and I chatted about during the installation. I said hey the tech said were getting nbc sports philly in december is this correct? Looks like he forward this to the customer service manager

out of the blue he replied to me today requesting my phone number and directv acct number.

i only gave my cell and hope to hear from him today, not sure if this means anything but it could mean something. I will try and get some real info and a actual launch date and try to get real proof.

#1463 OFFLINE   la24philly

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:11 PM

ok i spoke to Mrs Zanella, and it appears that the tech is lying.

her boss the president spoke with directv, and as of now directv and comcast are going back and forth on a price an etc.

not sure if they are trying to down play this. or keep it a secret. the tech is moving to a new apt that allows a dish. he is stating it will happen.

but will see, so looks like all the hype i did over the past 2 days is now crap. sorry guys, im just at the point where i want this to finally get finished.

But I will wait and see when december gets here and if its not on by the winter classic will know for sure.

Im not really sure on who to believe.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 04:17 PM

Comcast is legally required to negotiate in good faith. The problem is good faith is an oppinion. I would say that DIRECTV is going after this channel as aggressively as they can without taking a bath on the cost. The longer Comcast can drag this out the more money they retain as well as the more people they can get signed up.

I wouldn't believe anything that is posted until it can be backed up by a Sixto satellite update or an official announcement from DIRECTV or a party involved with the RSN.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 06:04 PM

A tech without inside info?

#1466 OFFLINE   wilbur_the_goose

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 07:01 PM

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Don't feel bad la24 - we've all been taken by a liar.

#1467 OFFLINE   la24philly

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 07:22 PM

thanks wil, its just the way he said it. I mean its not like i open the door, and the first thing he said directv is getting the new NBC sports philly.

i mean it was after the install, while we were sitting on the couch drinking ice tea, and i brought it up and he says it will be on by december. he then talked about him moving to a new apt that allows a dish etc.

the one thing that i would like to know is, when the FCC approved this deal in january, was there an actual date as to when directv could put it on.

I mean what they are telling us it comes down to a cost or price, i think there is something that they aren't telling us.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 05:42 AM

I get CSNHD and TCNHD with the second cheapest package my cableco sells so it can't be a really expensive addon. IMO Comcast is still dragging this on. They've got lots of political clout in PA and DC.

Comcast uses TCN as an overflow channel when there are conflicts with live programming on CSN. I wouldn't be surprised if they finally released CSN to D* and E* and then switched more programming to TCN.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 07:31 AM

I get CSNHD and TCNHD with the second cheapest package my cableco sells so it can't be a really expensive addon. IMO Comcast is still dragging this on. They've got lots of political clout in PA and DC.

Comcast uses TCN as an overflow channel when there are conflicts with live programming on CSN. I wouldn't be surprised if they finally released CSN to D* and E* and then switched more programming to TCN.


Well how much can they get away with that? In other markets over flow stuff on other channels is on directv and they don't have the other channel on at all.
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 07:51 AM

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw a tech talk about how DirecTV will add NBC Sports Philadelphia tonight. I guess it's pretty serious.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 07:52 AM

Well with this latest info or non info no offense to any one .It sparked some more conversation amongst us .That being said I think that the 1st of the year maybe still a marker for CSN Phila. to be added .Then if that passes without any movement,that would leave my earlier prediction that start of the new baseball season 2012 .To me if we don,t have any movement at that time then it probably going to be a race to see if Hell freezes over 1st ha ha .I am not trying to be negative just looking at a time frame in the not to distant future that makes sense but, hope either date comes with our wishes of watching our home teams games in glorious HD on Directv.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 08:27 AM

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw a tech talk about how DirecTV will add NBC Sports Philadelphia tonight. I guess it's pretty serious.


Bravo sir. Bravo. :)
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 09:28 AM

I had to have another technician comeout to fix the front of my dish, a bird or wood pecker, flew its beak into the white plastic thing thats in front of the actual dish and cracked it, so i lost all communication with my satellite error 771a. lol. so they sent out a tech superivisor to fix this.

so I decided to bring the same question up that i did with the first tech. He is saying directv will be getting nbc sports philly in december, he doesnt have an actual date, but from his superiors he is stating this will happen.

So now I'm not sure what to believe. I have 2 techs saying it will happen in december. the tone and voice the way both said it, wasn't in a way like there trying to sell anything. they are just telling you straight what they know.

The tec's superiors or managers are telling them its happening in december, but when I called the office they said no.

so someone is lying or trying to keep everything a seceret.

so will see.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:06 AM

I had to have another technician comeout to fix the front of my dish, a bird or wood pecker, flew its beak into the white plastic thing thats in front of the actual dish and cracked it, so i lost all communication with my satellite error 771a. lol. so they sent out a tech superivisor to fix this.

so I decided to bring the same question up that i did with the first tech. He is saying directv will be getting nbc sports philly in december, he doesnt have an actual date, but from his superiors he is stating this will happen.

So now I'm not sure what to believe. I have 2 techs saying it will happen in december. the tone and voice the way both said it, wasn't in a way like there trying to sell anything. they are just telling you straight what they know.

The tec's superiors or managers are telling them its happening in december, but when I called the office they said no.

so someone is lying or trying to keep everything a seceret.

so will see.


Please stop posting rumors.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:59 AM

im not posting rumors, im posting what happened this week involving directv. What you choose to believe is your choice. I also posted feeback from both the tecs that came out and from the company they work for.




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