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#2201 OFFLINE   garn9173

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:06 AM

ah gotcha...thanks. still youd THINK with the subscriber base that D has, they woudl WANT their channel on D and would figure out a way to get it there. The NHL Network can simulcats it when the Flyers are the home team. Also two years ago, D had Flyer playoff first round games from the CSN feed.


Even though that the FCC has told Comcast to make CSN Philly available to D*, IIRC, Comcast is asking and arm and a leg for D* to carry the channel, same goes for CSN NW.

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#2202 OFFLINE   je4755

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:15 AM

As an expatriate Philadelphian, my desire for the addition of CSN Philly principally resides in the availability of HD broadcasts for all Flyers games on CI and Daily News Live (formerly, but no longer, accessible on a delayed basis at philly.com via Cinesport.) However, next month Daily News Live will be replaced by Philly Sports Talk, which “occasionally will expand beyond the world of sports to touch on major entertainment news,” and thereby may prove a less compelling option.

#2203 OFFLINE   Diana C

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:36 AM

Verizon FiOS only covers part of the Philly area. I think you'd be surprised how many people in Philly hate Comcrap and would switch to another carrier in an instant if D* carried CSN Philly....


Ding, ding, ding!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!

This is EXACTLY why CSN Philadelpia will never be on DirecTV (or Dish Network).

Comcast is fully aware of the fact that they would lose subscribers in droves if it were not for the local sports coverage.

Keep in mind that Phildelphia is Comcast's home town. They would not want to be in the position of having to report to shareholders that they have lost 30% or more of the their home market to the competition.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:26 PM

For the record they are better known as Concrap.


You are exactly right.. I stand corrected. :lol:

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

Ding, ding, ding!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!

This is EXACTLY why CSN Philadelpia will never be on DirecTV (or Dish Network).

Comcast is fully aware of the fact that they would lose subscribers in droves if it were not for the local sports coverage.

Keep in mind that Phildelphia is Comcast's home town. They would not want to be in the position of having to report to shareholders that they have lost 30% or more of the their home market to the competition.


they where willing to give it up to get NFL TICKET.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:38 PM

they where willing to give it up to get NFL TICKET.


So they claimed.
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#2207 OFFLINE   wilbur_the_goose

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:52 AM

dtrell - who owns the Flyers? That will answer all your questions/doubts.

PS - They're owned by Comcast.

#2208 OFFLINE   Grafixguy

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:34 AM

See post 9 in this thread.

http://www.dbstalk.c...046&postcount=9


Totally outdated info. The terrestrial loophole was closed some time ago. This about money and nothing else.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:50 AM

Totally outdated info. The terrestrial loophole was closed some time ago. This about money and nothing else.


See this post, I did make mention about the money.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 04:36 PM

My point is that can't D* use the basic pricing offer per sub that Comcrap gave Verizon to carry CSN Philly as a basis to say that Comcrap isn't negotiating in good faith with D*?

Not saying that D* has to get the same price per sub as Verizon has in their offer.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:04 PM

My point is that can't D* use the basic pricing offer per sub that Comcrap gave Verizon to carry CSN Philly as a basis to say that Comcrap isn't negotiating in good faith with D*?

Not saying that D* has to get the same price per sub as Verizon has in their offer.


First, do we know what Verizon paid? As they have limited markets, they are probably more willing to overpay to get a better foothold in the area. Second, who says they can get the same offer? As demonstrated in the PAC 12 deals, cable (fios is just fiber cable) and satellite are different animals.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:08 PM

My point is that can't D* use the basic pricing offer per sub that Comcrap gave Verizon to carry CSN Philly as a basis to say that Comcrap isn't negotiating in good faith with D*?

Not saying that D* has to get the same price per sub as Verizon has in their offer.


outer ring vs inter ring pricing can be a issue. Cable market price may very per system and comcast may want the same for all areas even places where you maybe blacked out of the some of teams? also need to buy TCN.

Now the The Comcast Network is available to every TV system (But let's just say even if you go back to the time when the terrestrial loophole was in place if they had it will the CSN Philly over flow stuff be blacked out?)

Does directv want CSN Philly + overflows with out having to buy TCN?? like how all the other CSN's are setup on directv?
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:30 PM

outer ring vs inter ring pricing can be a issue. Cable market price may very per system and comcast may want the same for all areas even places where you maybe blacked out of the some of teams? also need to buy TCN.

Now the The Comcast Network is available to every TV system (But let's just say even if you go back to the time when the terrestrial loophole was in place if they had it will the CSN Philly over flow stuff be blacked out?)

Does directv want CSN Philly + overflows with out having to buy TCN?? like how all the other CSN's are setup on directv?


CSNPhilly does not have an overflow channel.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:15 PM

CSNPhilly does not have an overflow channel.


TCN is the overflow channel.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:33 PM

Its all pretty simple. There hundreds of thousands of fans in Philly that love their sports teams good enough to have cable to watch them. Although there is FIOS, there is a lot more competition from DirecTV and Dish, especially since the FIOS footprint is limited, and DirecTV and Dish can be viewed in the entire region/DMA that the sports teams are in.

It is in Comcast's interest to NOT have CSN on DirecTV or Dish, otherwise they would lose clients.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:19 PM

Its all pretty simple. There hundreds of thousands of fans in Philly that love their sports teams good enough to have cable to watch them. Although there is FIOS, there is a lot more competition from DirecTV and Dish, especially since the FIOS footprint is limited, and DirecTV and Dish can be viewed in the entire region/DMA that the sports teams are in.

It is in Comcast's interest to NOT have CSN on DirecTV or Dish, otherwise they would lose clients.

What about all the areas outside of Philly but still in the teams DMA that can't get cable or may not carry the RSN, I guess those people are SOL?

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:45 PM

What about all the areas outside of Philly but still in the teams DMA that can't get cable or may not carry the RSN, I guess those people are SOL?


Pretty much. Comcrap doesn't care about those people since they aren't their cable customers.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:50 PM

What about all the areas outside of Philly but still in the teams DMA that can't get cable or may not carry the RSN, I guess those people are SOL?


The area is pretty heavily cable saturated and I think most systems have the channel.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:09 AM

TCN is the overflow channel.


It doesn't work like other overflow channels, which are only part-time.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:11 AM

The area is pretty heavily cable saturated and I think most systems have the channel.


RCN and Blue Ridge do not carry TCN.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:26 PM

RCN and Blue Ridge do not carry TCN.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

Wow... so much post,speculation,sub cost,disagreements,good vs bad etc etc etc..... this is becoming an anticipation thread which would of happen if not for the sub cost. Plus Comcrap won't play nicely knowing Directv is the competition.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

The area is pretty heavily cable saturated and I think most systems have the channel.


Not quite... Here in Cecil County Maryland, the local Comcast carries CSN Mid Atlantic but we fall under the blackout rules for Philadelphia. So it is impossible to see any Philadelphia games that are carried by CSN Philly on satellite or cable (directly on CSN Philly, NHL CI, etc.). At least those in DE, NJ and PA have the option to get the channel via cable regardless of how bad that option is. No option at all in MD and we are still blacked out.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:13 PM

Not quite... Here in Cecil County Maryland, the local Comcast carries CSN Mid Atlantic but we fall under the blackout rules for Philadelphia. So it is impossible to see any Philadelphia games that are carried by CSN Philly on satellite or cable (directly on CSN Philly, NHL CI, etc.). At least those in DE, NJ and PA have the option to get the channel via cable regardless of how bad that option is. No option at all in MD and we are still blacked out.

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I don't consider any part of Maryland the Philadelphia area. Too bad you are blacked out.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:19 PM

These present blackout rules are so archaic !!! They need to be changed ASAP.A couple of years ago I phoned into that NHL show on the NHLN that comes from NYC.Buttman was on answering questions & when the screener asked me what I wanted to ask him,he said that he wasn't taking questions on blackouts !!

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