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#2376 OFFLINE   damondlt

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 12:02 PM

As a regular traveler (for work) to Philly...and a regular viewer of Comcast sports programming (for more than 10 years) in my hotel and other locations...

 

Honestly...I don't begin to see the value of their programming anywhere near what Comcast puts on it. Most of their programming is local content and talk-show format. nearly any broadcaster could replicate much of that content. 

 

They do have some special programming from time to time...but in terms of the money they could/would ask for this to be added to the lineup...no thanks.

OH here we go,

If Directv carried it your tune would be different.

So predictable !

 

If money is so Tight maybe you and Directv could split a room while your in Philly.

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

That's the way almost every RSN is though. It's all about the teams games... Flyers, Phillies, and Sixers fans are forced away from DirecTV.

Just like the NY fans are Steered away from Dish.


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 01:02 PM

Uh, we who live in rural communities DO care that much. This country has both significant rural areas and major cities.

Sure, much love to all of you.. :)

The city of Philadelphia is where I reside and in that city I have four options to get content from. I was simply being selfish.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:39 PM

I don't understand why residents of the Philadelphia region simply don't switch to Fios if it's available to them. To heck with both DirecTV and Comcast on this issue. I truly believe both are at fault.. DirecTV fighting for me as a consumer on this issue is for the birds. They(DirecTV that is) still find a way to raise our rates every year, still make a tremendous profit, don't offer internet, and don't care to give the people of this city any way to watch local sports.. I don't live in the middle of Wisconsin or what have and only have sat as my only option and I'm glad for it.

That's sort of what I did - I already had Verizon Fios internet, and adding the base HD package only raised my rate by $10, which was a decent value for the product.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 10:21 AM

Key takeaways from a philly.com article titled "Blackout warning as Comcast sports network pitches a surcharge:"

  • “Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia, already one of the nation's priciest regional sports networks, is seeking a subscriber surcharge on behalf of the wallet-busting, 25-year, $2.5 billion TV rights deal it negotiated with the Phillies in January.”
  • “A 24-page report on the sports programming costs from J.P. Morgan released on Tuesday listed Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia as the nation's sixth-most-expensive regional sports network, costing cable companies $3.90 a month per subscriber, a cost then passed on to customers. That cost is significantly more than most general-interest national cable channels.”
  • “Madison Square Garden/MSG, at $5.44 a month, or about the monthly cost of ESPN, tops the list as the most expensive regional sports network, according to the report.”


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 01:30 PM

How do they ask for a "surcharge"? Did they get those who signed up for it to sign contract stating not only a price, but also the ability to add a surcharge if they overpay for rights in the future?

 

If so, no wonder Directv hasn't signed up, and this would make it even less likely they ever will.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 06:39 AM

As has been mentioned, Comcast has gotten a 15-year head start on Philly sports customers.  Chances are most of those that remain with Directv in the Philly area are those that don't put much value in Phillies, Flyers and Sixers games.  So adding CSN would not add much value to their current customers.  The question is to what extent Directv could move existing Comcast customers over to Directv if it added CSN.  Due to switching costs (largely inconvenience and people not taking the time to research), it probably wouldn't be worth the cost to Directv.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:00 PM

Not only that but would they make enough money off the new customer to pay for the one new channel that would cost them $5 or so for EVERY customer in that market?



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

I really hope the FCC requires Comcast to divest all their content in order to be permitted to merge. I'll bet if they did the merger wouldn't go through. They want to be able to leverage the sort of strategy nationwide to steal customers from competing cable and satellite providers.


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:34 AM

I appreciate this truly is “beating a dead horse” (evidenced by the fact the last post in this thread appeared in March) and CSN Philadelphia likely will never be offered by DirecTV. Nevertheless, an article last week in the Wall Street Journal addressing SportsNet LA listed average monthly subscriber fees for selected RSNs. Several carried by DirecTV – viz., FS North, CSN Mid-Atlantic and NESN – exceed the figure specified for CSN Philly.  

 

Earlier in the year, press reports noted a study by JP Morgan disclosing CSN Philly was the sixth-most expensive RSN, costing $3.90 per subscriber (while MSG mandated an outlay of $5.44).

 

If memory serves, DirecTV refused to enter into arbitration with Comcast, fearing the latter might be granted an excessive award. However, is it not reasonable to assume an arbitrator necessarily would take into account carriage fees paid by Comcast (to itself!), Verizon and small cable operators in the Philly region thereby constraining DirecTV’s financial burden?

 

Of course I am unfamiliar with the specifics of DirecTV - Comcast interchanges and the former’s cost-benefit analysis regarding the addition of CSN Philly, but as a Philadelphia expatriate still “hope against hope” the parties ultimately will consummate an agreement.



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:48 AM

As neither an expatriate, and not a fan of The Eagles, The Phillies, nor the Fliers, etc,. But I too hope the fans get a square deal. I've never liked Comcast, even on FB! :), and this give me reason to loathe them. 


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 04:56 PM

I appreciate this truly is “beating a dead horse” (evidenced by the fact the last post in this thread appeared in March) and CSN Philadelphia likely will never be offered by DirecTV. Nevertheless, an article last week in the Wall Street Journal addressing SportsNet LA listed average monthly subscriber fees for selected RSNs. Several carried by DirecTV – viz., FS North, CSN Mid-Atlantic and NESN – exceed the figure specified for CSN Philly.  

 

Earlier in the year, press reports noted a study by JP Morgan disclosing CSN Philly was the sixth-most expensive RSN, costing $3.90 per subscriber (while MSG mandated an outlay of $5.44).

 

If memory serves, DirecTV refused to enter into arbitration with Comcast, fearing the latter might be granted an excessive award. However, is it not reasonable to assume an arbitrator necessarily would take into account carriage fees paid by Comcast (to itself!), Verizon and small cable operators in the Philly region thereby constraining DirecTV’s financial burden?

 

Of course I am unfamiliar with the specifics of DirecTV - Comcast interchanges and the former’s cost-benefit analysis regarding the addition of CSN Philly, but as a Philadelphia expatriate still “hope against hope” the parties ultimately will consummate an agreement.

But unlike other RSN's they also need to buy TCN Philly.

 

And does comcast want full price even in outer rings?


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:51 PM

And i think its those outer rings that are causing all the pricing issues...  and something that is not like ANY other provider except Dish...



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Posted 10 October 2014 - 08:58 AM

Right now, the market has likely segmented to some extent in Philly between Philly sports fans (must have Comcast) and non-Philly sports fans (Comcast or Dish or DTV is acceptable).  The existing DTV and DISH customers in Philly are likely not avid sports fans (or at least Philly teams).  Therefore, Directv adding CSN would be of little value to them and the per-subscriber fee would have to be lower than average to justify, which of course isn't going to happen.

 

Now you could say that over time, sports fans in Philly would flock to a Directv w/ CSN, but there are switching costs.

 

In my opinion, a truly fair arbitration on CSN, SportsNet LA, etc. would call for ratings-based payments given that they have been able to use their market power to get a leg up on their competitors and already take the die hard sports fans.



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Posted 11 October 2014 - 08:16 AM

I just spent 7 months in the Philly area for work and had Comcast there for my work residence.  I can understand why Philly fans would want CSN-P to be included on D* with all of Philly sports covered there, but TCN would have to be included since it has essentially become an overflow sports channel.  For those of us outside of Philly, TCN would be blacked out 90% of the time since they replay games most of the time.  If ever it would be added, it would be a sub channel at best.


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Posted 18 October 2014 - 01:34 PM

Remember - we're talking Flyers, 76ers, and Phillies.   They all stink this year.

 

I have FiOS for CSN-Philly, and I don't think I've used it more than a few times the last month.  You know what they say about the grass being greener - I was so psyched to get it, binged on it for a bit, and seldom watch it anymore.

 

Now, if they had Tony Bruno......  (I'm a big Tony Bruno fan)


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Posted 19 October 2014 - 09:03 AM

Remember - we're talking Flyers, 76ers, and Phillies.   They all stink this year.

 

I have FiOS for CSN-Philly, and I don't think I've used it more than a few times the last month.  You know what they say about the grass being greener - I was so psyched to get it, binged on it for a bit, and seldom watch it anymore.

 

Now, if they had Tony Bruno......  (I'm a big Tony Bruno fan)

Yes, all -- including the Flyers -- likely will prove disappointing. However, I'd enjoy watching such shows as Philly Sports Talk and Eagles Postgame Live. The CSN Philly website only offers short excerpts from these programs. 


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:16 AM

I appreciate this truly is “beating a dead horse” (evidenced by the fact the last post in this thread appeared in March) and CSN Philadelphia likely will never be offered by DirecTV. Nevertheless, an article last week in the Wall Street Journal addressing SportsNet LA listed average monthly subscriber fees for selected RSNs. Several carried by DirecTV – viz., FS North, CSN Mid-Atlantic and NESN – exceed the figure specified for CSN Philly.  

 

Earlier in the year, press reports noted a study by JP Morgan disclosing CSN Philly was the sixth-most expensive RSN, costing $3.90 per subscriber (while MSG mandated an outlay of $5.44).

 

If memory serves, DirecTV refused to enter into arbitration with Comcast, fearing the latter might be granted an excessive award. However, is it not reasonable to assume an arbitrator necessarily would take into account carriage fees paid by Comcast (to itself!), Verizon and small cable operators in the Philly region thereby constraining DirecTV’s financial burden?

 

Of course I am unfamiliar with the specifics of DirecTV - Comcast interchanges and the former’s cost-benefit analysis regarding the addition of CSN Philly, but as a Philadelphia expatriate still “hope against hope” the parties ultimately will consummate an agreement.

 

"I appreciate this truly is “beating a dead horse” 

 

You can say that again!   :bang






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