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DIRECTV Transponder Map: New Data: 5/1/2010


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#1 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 10:21 PM

The attachments to this post cover all U.S. DIRECTV Channels and Transponders, CONUS (Continental U.S. or National beams) and LIL (Local Into Local or Spot beams). OTA (Over The Air) data is not provided in this specific data capture.

Directv-Latin America provides satellite coverage for the Caribbean, Mexico, Central America and South America; Directv-LA data is separate and not included here.

A single Excel document provides all the CONUS and LIL data for DIRECTV Satellites at the 72.5W, 95W, 99W, 101W, 103W, 110W and 119W positions.

Three supplemental documents are also provided:

  • A Network-Market-DMA Networklist cross-reference sheet. This information is particularly useful in understanding the LIL data.

  • A Network Decoder map showing the satellites and transponders graphically as they appear on your receiver's signal strength display.

  • A Channel Distribution Chart showing the number of CONUS and LIL channels provided by each satellite.
All documents are fully unprotected so you may copy and use the data as you wish.
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Edited by gct, 09 May 2010 - 05:36 PM.



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#2 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 10:24 PM

Thank you doctor j!

Quick notes:

  • The Network List document has not changed since the last update.
  • This data capture -does- include all the OTA data

Edited by gct, 09 April 2010 - 01:27 PM.



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Posted 04 April 2010 - 10:57 PM

How does DIRECTV 9S get 258 CONUS channels on it? The CONUS capacity is reportedly no more than two transponders.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 01:44 PM

Here's a link to the Tom Robertson post regrading the D9S configuration. Hope this helps.

http://www.dbstalk.c...9663#post869663


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Posted 05 April 2010 - 10:51 PM

Tom's detail isn't entirely clear, but it seems to indicate 10 CONUS transponders and that works out to 25.8 channels per transponder (about double the conventional load).

It is unfortunate that all the links are faulty.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:19 PM

Tom's detail isn't entirely clear, but it seems to indicate 10 CONUS transponders and that works out to 25.8 channels per transponder (about double the conventional load).

It is unfortunate that all the links are faulty.


Out of those channels there are...

35 Sonic Tap channels (audio only)

30 MLB Extra Innings channels (most of which are just remaps to existing RSN uplinks)

20 Game Lounge channels (should be mostly data)

17 channels with an asterisk next to them, which would typically indicate they are unavailable (and therefore, may not even be uplinked)

9 UEFA channels (more very part time sports channels)

4 NASCAR Hot Pass channels (only used a few hours on Saturdays or Sundays)

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:23 PM

Making more sense now. It depends on what your definition of channel is.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:26 PM

Making more sense now. It depends on what your definition of channel is.


Exactly. The listings aren't really channels.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:33 PM

GCT - this is a nit, but perhaps a footnote on you PDFs for D5 at 110w to indicate that the true RF transponders at 110 are 28, 30, and 32, which are then re-mapped/converted at the LNB's integrated multiswitch to become "8", "10", and "12" This is b/c there are already TPs 28, 30, and 32 at 119w and they had to re-map the three 110w TPs so as to be able to be stacked on the coax with the 119w even TPs.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 10:37 PM

....GCT - this is a nit, but perhaps a footnote on you PDFs for D5 at 110w to indicate that the true RF transponders at 110 are 28, 30, and 32 ....


tkrandall,

Thanks for the feedback.

You are absolutely correct, of course. To this point, I have been reluctant to confuse a whole lot of folks who just seek a higher level relationship of what channels map to what TPNs on their signal strength displays.

But for those folks like you, I will add a footnote to the first page of the 'Network Decoder' PDF to point out the mapping of actual-to-virtual TPNs that takes place for D5.

Thanks!


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Posted 09 April 2010 - 09:17 AM

Oh, and I should have thanks for putting these together

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 01:30 PM

on page 1, added the TPN 'mapping' note regarding the D5 satellite

on page 2, added the '103CA' network identifier for the D12 Conus Beams as they appear on the receiver Signal Strength Display


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Posted 18 April 2010 - 02:28 PM

Humm ....

It also appears, if I'm reading the Tp. map correctly, that DirecTV has finally ceased the seemingly senseless duplication of transmitting the HD LiLs for the N.Y. and L.A.markets on both CONUS (for HD-DNS) and local spotbeams. And now are simply remapping the HD-DNS CONUS signals over to the corresponding local channels numbers for the "big four networks" in the guide as they have been doing with the SD channel ones for years.

Sure makes it a lot more logical now, as I never did understand what looked to be a needless duplication and waste of bandwidth was all about to begin with.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:43 AM

What are the chances of an out of cycle update to find out the bird and tp that Telefutura HD is on? Gotta be 110 or 119 :)

I need to get my PC hooked back up to my WB68 so that I can look at this data again.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 12:34 PM

What are the chances of an out of cycle update to find out the bird and tp that Telefutura HD is on? Gotta be 110 or 119 :)

I need to get my PC hooked back up to my WB68 so that I can look at this data again.

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Would DirecTV launch any new HD channel additions on 101, 110, or 119 which are now, with the recent retirement of the last MPEG-2 HD channels, only used for MPEG-2 Ku-band SD channels? (For subscribers at least).

I thought all HD channels today are at or destined for MPEG-4 on Ka-band satellites D10, 11, and soon D12.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 12:36 PM

Would DirecTV launch any new HD channel additions on 101, 110, or 119 which are now, with the recent retirement of the last MPEG-2 HD channels, only used for MPEG-2 Ku-band SD channels? (For subscribers at least).

I thought all HD channels today are at or destined for MPEG-4 on Ka-band satellites D10, 11, and soon D12.

Previous guess has been that any international (subscription) growth, including HD, would be on 110/119, since international (subscription) would require access to 110/119.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 12:43 PM

A Spanish language HD channel makes perfect sense on 110 or 119 since the Spanish package is from 119.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 12:54 PM

Just PM'ed doctor j to take a quick peak to see where Telefutura HD is.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 03:09 PM

A Spanish language HD channel makes perfect sense on 110 or 119 since the Spanish package is from 119.


Logically yes I agree, but it seems as though the majority of SD Spanish channels, particularly those exclusive to Spanish packages, are MPEG-2 on Ku band at 119 with a few others on 101.

Whereas the HD Spanish channels are all on Ka band at 99 or 103 as with the English.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 04:54 PM

Logically yes I agree, but it seems as though the majority of SD Spanish channels, particularly those exclusive to Spanish packages, are MPEG-2 on Ku band at 119 with a few others on 101.

Whereas the HD Spanish channels are all on Ka band at 99 or 103 as with the English.


Univision HD is the only HD Spanish channel at 99 (or 103 for that matter). It's available in (almost?) every package, whereas Telefutura is not. Therefore, it makes sense to carry Univision HD on 99, but not Telefutura.

That being said, given the bandwidth available at 110/119, I'm surprised they didn't add Telefutura East HD as well.

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